The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Special Edition

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pjedilord Nov 18, 2022 @ 4:05pm
Why Did GTA 5 Wild Hunt Sell Better Than Skyrim?
Why did GTA 5 sold so much more than Skyrim did?
Was it due to GTA 5 had MP and looked so much better as next gen game?
Skyrim was not quite next gen as GTA 5? but Skyrim is so much more respected
than GTA 5?

GTA 5 sold 170m vs Skyrim 30m
So had Skyrim looked like GTA 5 and had MP should of sold 150m instead of only
30m? How can Skyrim be best ever RPG and only sell 30m? GTA 5 date 2013
Skyrim 2011 GTA 5 and Skyrim took 5 years to make but GTA 5 looks much better why?
I prefer Skyrim but enjoyed GTA 5

But why did Wild Hunt sell 65m so much more than Skyrim? Skyrim is much
vast game having to offer more with factions as Wild Hunt seems more limited.
Was due to using same character from prequels that talks? as DB does not talk.
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psychotron666420 Nov 18, 2022 @ 4:12pm 
GTA is aimed at a much wider audience, and is probably the most well known and notorious game franchise ever. It was literally the most expensive game ever made at the time, double the cost of Skyrim.

Witcher I'm not entirely sure. The main character is awful, and the game is a giant slog of grind fest. But I guess witcher is also aimed at a wider audience who has a voice acted Mary Sue main character so I guess people really like that. God I hope Bethesda doesn't go that route, the voiced main character of fallout 4 was imo the biggest detriment of that game, as it bled over into the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ ass dialogue system which ruined the game and the franchise IMO.
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pjedilord Nov 18, 2022 @ 4:16pm 
Originally posted by psychotron666420:
GTA is aimed at a much wider audience, and is probably the most well known and notorious game franchise ever. It was literally the most expensive game ever made at the time, double the cost of Skyrim.

Witcher I'm not entirely sure. The main character is awful, and the game is a giant slog of grind fest. But I guess witcher is also aimed at a wider audience who has a voice acted Mary Sue main character so I guess people really like that. God I hope Bethesda doesn't go that route, the voiced main character of fallout 4 was imo the biggest detriment of that game, as it bled over into the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ ass dialogue system which ruined the game and the franchise IMO.



But it worked for Wild Hunt why not sequel to Skyrim?They could of done better F4?
SerraShaar Nov 18, 2022 @ 4:30pm 
Yeah but WIld Hunt is a story oriented game. Why are you comparing a Sandbox to a game that is story focused with a credit roll? in Skyrim you can just run around and never touch the story. In Witcher 3, you must advance the story to see the rest of the world.

I liked Witcher 3. And would have Loved fallout 4 if it didn't crash so much.
Vlad 254 Nov 18, 2022 @ 6:50pm 
3 totally different games. GTA is outstanding, I played the heck out of them on Console. Witcher games are outstanding but are far more story driven. TW3's graphics are beautiful. Skyrim had to compete with Call of Duty (which always releases their titles in early November) yet Skyrim still sold 10 million copies it's first month. GTA V sold 11 million. But I remember seeing that Skyrim was the fastest ever video game to hit 30 Million copies sold yet for some reason their all time total sales still show 30 million on sites like Wiki, the numbers have not changed in years, like forever it seems.

You mention 3 outstanding games OP. Can't go wrong with any of them and I've played all 3. I guess, as always, it depends on what you like.
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Liquid Inc Nov 18, 2022 @ 7:15pm 
GTA is a great game, but it's lost what it had in the beginning.. Now it's all fly on hover motorcycles and STOL's with more rockets than an army (or was, i can't imagine what it's got to now.. haven't played it since the Nuke heist with clifford)
My character in that game also looked like some creepy Halloween character. Couldn't see her skin under the mass of tattoo's :steamfacepalm:

(And yes, my avatar here is from that game :steammocking:)

Skyrim has it's own charm, and if you hadn't have noticed, it had some updates to bring it up, and then it's been left for modders to play with.
GTA has devolved to Online spam modes and R* (and take2) haven't made a game since Red Dead and V....

I couldn't get into TW3.. i did play it a bit, but i just couldn't connect with the Geralt so the story didn't absorb me like other games.. Even GTA Online somehow held me to it's meager story better



Originally posted by psychotron666420:
GTA is aimed at a much wider audience, and is probably the most well known and notorious game franchise ever. It was literally the most expensive game ever made at the time, double the cost of Skyrim.

Witcher I'm not entirely sure. The main character is awful, and the game is a giant slog of grind fest. But I guess witcher is also aimed at a wider audience who has a voice acted Mary Sue main character so I guess people really like that. God I hope Bethesda doesn't go that route, the voiced main character of fallout 4 was imo the biggest detriment of that game, as it bled over into the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ ass dialogue system which ruined the game and the franchise IMO.

IDK, the more i play around with Fallout4, the more i like the voiced character... Makes it feel more alive? i guess?
I got more dialogue mods so they actually speak more outside of just the dialogue scenes.

Some games work with voices, and others don't, and ofcourse that's always going to be individual preference. I don't think Dragon Age Origins would have been anywhere near as good if it had a voiced Grey Warden, but at the same time, others will believe it would have been a better game... But, who is "right" really?
The Executioner Nov 18, 2022 @ 8:48pm 
Tetris has sold 520 million copies does that make it better than skyrim ? These posts are just stupid. You can't compare games based on sales and even if you are this is just your opinion on why this game sold x and this game sold x amount. Also Skyrim best rpg ever ? Also an opinion but not a fact considering older titles had more rpg elements than skyrim. Skyrim is a watered down wanna be rpg made by devs cashing in on previous titles. If skyrim is your standard of rpg boy would you be blown away from games that came out 5-10 years before skyrim did. That actually were rpg games.
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BigCunggus Nov 18, 2022 @ 9:06pm 
possible answers to this

marketing - skyrim is 2011 games...it got re-released in 2016 but the graphic sucks

accessibility - gta 5 is far more stable than skyrim

game discount - skyrim took years to reach discount 50% of sales, todd knew this game sold well, so he rarely put discount on skyrim

mainstream games - GTA 5 is like fifa or cod games that people just keep buying because they rarely caused bug and just plug in...play the game

game play - skyrim gameplay is basically repetitive - please dont mention mods here

game development - took 5 - 10 years to make...this will affect people to ignore any news abt it

witcher 3 - only sold well because it has good marketing, the price is super cheap when it got sales, i got it for 14$ in steam, it has better graphics, sex, better gameplay, performance wise and it also available for free sometimes in some stores, thats why it sold well

when i enter gaming world, i never heard of elderscrolls, i only heard GTA games, COD games and FIFA
🐠🍑 Nov 19, 2022 @ 7:56am 
Maybe Skyrim 6 will have

Originally posted by 󠀡󠀡󠀡󠀡:
Tetris has sold 520 million copies does that make it better than skyrim ?

That is a very interesting question. On one hand the numbers don't lie but on the other
SpeedFreak1972 Nov 19, 2022 @ 8:51am 
Well to be honest the sales numbers are irrelevant for me as long as I have fun playing it .... let the bookkeepers have sleepless nights over those numbers.
Originally posted by SpeedFreak1972:
Well to be honest the sales numbers are irrelevant for me as long as I have fun playing it .... let the bookkeepers have sleepless nights over those numbers.
er...... you do realise that bookkeepers are betting shops?
what bets are you placing?
pjedilord Nov 19, 2022 @ 5:34pm 
Originally posted by Vlad 254:
3 totally different games. GTA is outstanding, I played the heck out of them on Console. Witcher games are outstanding but are far more story driven. TW3's graphics are beautiful. Skyrim had to compete with Call of Duty (which always releases their titles in early November) yet Skyrim still sold 10 million copies it's first month. GTA V sold 11 million. But I remember seeing that Skyrim was the fastest ever video game to hit 30 Million copies sold yet for some reason their all time total sales still show 30 million on sites like Wiki, the numbers have not changed in years, like forever it seems.

You mention 3 outstanding games OP. Can't go wrong with any of them and I've played all 3. I guess, as always, it depends on what you like.



Originally posted by 󠀡󠀡󠀡󠀡:
If skyrim is your standard of rpg boy would you be blown away from games that came out 5-10 years before skyrim did. That actually were rpg games.


The leap of Skyrim is not so vast in looks from ES 4?What do people prefer best?
What RPG is better?
Liquid Inc Nov 19, 2022 @ 6:28pm 
Depends on what your personal definition of an "RPG" is really.

For me, Dragon Age Origins will always remain the "best" one. It just did everything right for me...
For RPG purposes, even if you go back 20+ years and look at Dungeon Siege, it does it better than Skyrim because Skyrim isn't in the same Genre. It's not an RPG in the classic sense of one.
Yes the main quest could be considered comparable to the Warden or the farmer from "DS", but those games you follow the story, whereas Skyrim it's a sandbox, you never need to touch it yet can get 200+ hours out of a character. The "Role" and the "Play" is whatever you make it.

So, to answer your question, every RPG is better, because Skyrim isn't really an RPG to begin with.
(You can argue it is, but to suggest your roleplaying a character is enough to class it as one would be a bit of a stretch. You could apply the same to virtually every game that has a main character, even some Need for Speed's could claim that...)
Vlad 254 Nov 19, 2022 @ 6:33pm 
Originally posted by alexander_dougherty:
Originally posted by SpeedFreak1972:
Well to be honest the sales numbers are irrelevant for me as long as I have fun playing it .... let the bookkeepers have sleepless nights over those numbers.
er...... you do realise that bookkeepers are betting shops?
what bets are you placing?
lol reminds me of an old saying. "Figures don't lie but liars figure".
Von Faustien Nov 19, 2022 @ 7:26pm 
as far as elder scrolls goes.

1 Morrowind
2 Skyrim
3 Oblvion

both in terms of base game and mods not sure why but Oblvion is lacking on the mod front compared to both other modren entries of the franchise.

even in terms of whats being released. morrowinds still very active so's skyrim oblvions a trickle.

never played arena and my daggerfall run didnt go very well
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SerraShaar Nov 19, 2022 @ 7:47pm 
DAO crashed so much for me (Yes, I have the crashiest copy ever lol) I dispise the game. DA2 is where my love lie!

As for RPG? BG2 for exemple, Neverwinter Night 1&2. Icewind Dale games with Mods that add companions? Become a real RPG and not a hack'n Slash Dungeon Siege.

As for the Atari. It's still Alive. To me that's better than 'Selling Gazillions of copies'. Especially since it was the 1st console we had lol

And finally...

Oblivion was the best to me. I still have to finish it, maybe one day. Morrowind was the 1st of elder scroll I tried? And that was modding was like we have today. I remember trying one mod back then that added Kids to the world.
I say I found Morrowind horribly depressing and confusing. I couldn't be assed to get into it at all. Too muddy, same one song play on and on and on. And those voices? Urgh.

But if Morrowind had a facelift today? I think Skyrim would be history. Because both Morrowind and Oblivion can own Skyrim. They both had their pros and cons.

Oblivion had the best story and atmosphere to it. Morrowind seem like it was very Lore heavy oriented. Loved the architecture though. And those giant animal for safe Travel? Was dissapointed when they never came back in Oblivion. And those houses?

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/elderscrolls/images/8/8a/Ald%27ruhn_%28Morrowind%29.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130328090811

And these guys? Lol

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/elderscrolls/images/c/ce/OrdinatorMW.png/revision/latest/top-crop/width/360/height/360?cb=20131221183138

And Oblivion had color and life to it.

But Skyrim? It's pretty. But it's missing the Soul.
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