Best dagger for stealth build.

[Chase2D]

Im doing a dual wield dagger stealth build. What is the best dagger in the game?

[Halliwax]

Depends. The highest base damage (13) are the Madness Dagger from the Saints & Seducers creation and the Fang of Haynekhtnamet from the Fishing creation. Then there's Mehrunes' Dagger with the chance to instant-kill effect. If you want low weight, you could go with the simple Iron Dagger, or the quest item Alessandra's Dagger, or cast a bound dagger.

If you get into smithing, then the base damage of the dagger might become small next to how much you can improve it. You get double the improvement for materials you have the perk for. So if you only spend one perk point on smithing, you'll get double the improvement on steel, which might be enough to outclass higher tier daggers if you don't have their perk.

My personal favorite is the Nord Hero Dagger. That's part of the Fishing creation. It weighs as little as an Iron Dagger, has the base damage of an Elven or Nordic dagger, and benefits from the steel smithing perk. It requires you to do the Companions questline though. A close second favoring the same balance is the Skyforge Steel Dagger, which only requires you to do a couple Companions quests.

[Chase2D]

Originally posted by Halliwax:

Depends. The highest base damage (13) are the Madness Dagger from the Saints & Seducers creation and the Fang of Haynekhtnamet from the Fishing creation. Then there's Mehrunes' Dagger with the chance to instant-kill effect. If you want low weight, you could go with the simple Iron Dagger, or the quest item Alessandra's Dagger, or cast a bound dagger.

If you get into smithing, then the base damage of the dagger might become small next to how much you can improve it. You get double the improvement for materials you have the perk for. So if you only spend one perk point on smithing, you'll get double the improvement on steel, which might be enough to outclass higher tier daggers if you don't have their perk.

My personal favorite is the Nord Hero Dagger. That's part of the Fishing creation. It weighs as little as an Iron Dagger, has the base damage of an Elven or Nordic dagger, and benefits from the steel smithing perk. It requires you to do the Companions questline though. A close second favoring the same balance is the Skyforge Steel Dagger, which only requires you to do a couple Companions quests.

Ok thanks so in the base game with dlc what is the best dagger? Is it better to go for one with highest damage like dragonbone or is one with a bit of luck involved such as the insta kill dagger better?

[mikaeliby]

I think smithing is the way, and then pick the one you think looks best :) I assume you´re getting the 15x damage perc. Unsmithed thats 195 dmg for that Madness Dagger, and that won´t kill much, so you´ll want to improve your daggers anyway. And maybe do some enchanting as well for the fun of it.

Mehrunes dagger is good of course, but the effect is unreliable.

[jancawa55]

You can increase sneak and get 15 times damage, Madness is my favorite, but with sneaking so high you can kill most anything. Draugr overlord, no problem.

[alexander_dougherty]

The best dagger?
depends on what you want to do.

If you are wanting to collect Souls in Black Soul Gems, then something like a Dragonbone Dagger with a Soul Trap Enchantment would be best.

If not then Mehrune's Razor which has a chance of killing anything your backstab damage doesn't kill due to it's enchantment.

[Rez Elwin]

I usually run with the Razor and the Blade of Woe. I also tend to pickpocket Astrid which not only gets the Blade of Woe early, you get a second one later. Well I say early but you do need 100 in pickpocket first.

Anyway, while I run with the Razor and the Blade of Woe if by some miracle I'm spotted and get into a tough fight I can pull out my second Blade of Woe and get double health absorb.

[hoot hoot]

Originally posted by jancawa55:

You can increase sneak and get 15 times damage, Madness is my favorite, but with sneaking so high you can kill most anything. Draugr overlord, no problem.

I remember being so drunk with power when I first discovered all the modifiers you can get with sneak attacks and daggers. The DB gloves that double sneak attack damage with 1H plus the skill perk gives you x30 backstab damage. Everyone talks about how stealth archer is OP, but stealth in general is OP when the game gives you bonuses like this coupled with brain dead AI.

[Rez Elwin]

Originally posted by waifu enjoyer:

Originally posted by jancawa55:

You can increase sneak and get 15 times damage, Madness is my favorite, but with sneaking so high you can kill most anything. Draugr overlord, no problem.

I remember being so drunk with power when I first discovered all the modifiers you can get with sneak attacks and daggers. The DB gloves that double sneak attack damage with 1H plus the skill perk gives you x30 backstab damage. Everyone talks about how stealth archer is OP, but stealth in general is OP when the game gives you bonuses like this coupled with brain dead AI.

If you're dual wielding it's a possible x60
The Shadow Warrior perk at 100 sneak is stupidly OP with daggers, you can engage in direct combat with entire groups of enemies and pull of infinite sneak attacks.

[Senor Cinco]

Any dagger in the left hand that has a paralyses enchantment. Even for 1 sec, the charge will last a long time and the enemy is taken out of the fight for 3-4 seconds. Then, your current strongest dagger in the right.

Sneak or not... 1 strike with the left and hammer them with the right hand dagger. If they get up.... left again to put them on the ground and pelt them with the right hand. Rinse and repeat until dead.