I get no skill points!

[555G]

I have modded skyrim and it actually works out great ingame until I got from level 0 to level 1. No skil /perk point was given to me when i leveled up. What can I do now or what could be the cause of this? I´m using MO2.
My Mods are:
#Mod_Name
"DLC: HearthFires"
"DLC: Dragonborn"
"DLC: Dawnguard"
"Creation Club: ccQDRSSE001-SurvivalMode"
"Creation Club: ccBGSSSE037-Curios"
"Creation Club: ccBGSSSE025-AdvDSGS"
"Creation Club: ccBGSSSE001-Fish"
"SkyUI"
"Better Dialogue Controls"
"SkyUI SE - Flashing Savegames Fix"
"No BS AI Projectile Dodge (Magic and Arrows) - Immersive Projectiles Nondetection of Enemies"
"Fuz Ro D-oh - Silent Voice"
"Address Library for SKSE Plugins"
"SSE Engine Fixes (skse64 plugin)"
"PapyrusUtil SE - Modders Scripting Utility Functions"
"Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch"
"RaceMenu"
"DynDOLOD Resources SE"
"DynDOLOD DLL SE - Scripts"
"DynDOLOD DLL SE - DLL"
"powerofthree's Tweaks"
"Spell Perk Item Distributor (SPID)"
"Dynamic Animation Replacer"
"Medieval Lanterns of Skyrim"
"Cathedral Weathers and Seasons"
"Obsidian Mountain Fogs"
"Particle Patch for ENB"
"ENB Helper SE"
"ENB Light"
"Luminosity Lighting Overhaul - The Cathedral Concept"
"Landscapes - Cathedral Concept"
"Static Mesh Improvement Mod"
"Cathedral - 3D Rocky Shores"
"Realistic Water Two SE"
"Better Water - for Realistic Water Two"
"Blended Roads"
"Lanterns Of Skyrim II"
"SkyHUD"
"Sovngarde - A Nordic Font"
"aMidianBorn Buildings and Landscapes SE"
"NORDIC UI - Interface Overhaul"
"Cities of the North - Falkreath"
"Cities of the North - Falkreath - Patch"
"Cities of the North - Falkreath - Alternate Start Patch"
"Cities of the North - Morthal - Alternate Start Patch"
"Cities of the North - Morthal"
"Cities of the North - Morthal - Lantern Patch"
"Cities of the North - Dawnstar"
"Alternate Start - Live Another Life - SSE"
"The Great City Of Winterhold SSE Edition"
"The Great City of Dragon Bridge SSE Edition"
"The Great Village of Mixwater Mill SSE"
"The Great Town of Karthwasten SSE"
"The Great City of Rorikstead SSE Edition"
"The Great Town of Ivarstead SSE"
"The Great Town of Shor's Stone SSE"
"The Great Village of Old Hroldan SSE"
"JK's Riverwood"
"JK's The Bannered Mare"
"JK's The Winking Skeever"
"JK's New Gnisis Cornerclub"
"JK's The Temple of Mara"
"Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim"
"Arcanum - A New Age of Magic"
"Mysticism - A Magic Overhaul - Ordinator Patch"
"Mysticism - A Magic Overhaul"
"Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim - 20 percent more Perk Points"
"Quaint Raven Rock - SE"
"JK's Sleeping Giant Inn"
"Immersive World Encounters SE"
"Nilheim - Misc Quest Expansion"
"House of Horrors - Quest Expansion"
"Paarthurnax - Quest Expansion"
"Lucien - Immersive Fully Voiced Male Follower"
"Lucien - Immersive Fully Voiced Male Follower - Camping Patch"
"Lucien - Immersive Fully Voiced Male Follower - Umbra Patch"
"Beyond Skyrim - Wares of Tamriel SE"
"Relationship Dialogue Overhaul - RDO SE"
"Alternate Conversation Camera"
"WICO - Windsong Immersive Chracter Overhaul"
"Dirt and Blood - Dynamic Visual Effects"
"Quick Light SE"
"Missives"
"Headhunter - Bounties Redone"
"Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim"
"SmoothCam"
"Combat Gameplay Overhaul SE"
"Lore Weapon Expansion SE"
"Kthonia's Unique Weapon Pack - Dragonborn Weapons"
"ArteFakes - Unique Artifacts Replacer"
"Dawnguard Arsenal SSE"
"Artifacts - The Ice Blade of the Monarch [SSE]"
"Artifacts - The Breton Paladin [SSE]"
"Leveled List for Wayfarer's Coat"
"Wayfarer's Coat"
"JK's Belethor's General Goods"
"JK's Warmaiden's"
"JK's Warmaiden's Harvestable Statics Patch"
"JK's The Ragged Flagon"
"JK's Silver-Blood Inn"
"JK's Riverwood Trader"
"JK's Arnleif and Sons Trading Company"
"JK's Understone Keep"
"JK's Jorrvaskr"
"JK's High Hrothgar"
"Dungeons - Revisited"
"Dwemer Pipework Reworked"
"Dwemer Pipework Reworked - optional ENB"
"New Legion - Base"
"New Legion - WICO patch"
"New Legion - Textures Medium"
"Armor Variants Expansion"
"Cathedral - Armory"
"Frankly HD Dawnguard Armor and Weapons"
"Convenient Horses"
"Diverse Dragons Collection SE (DDCse)"
"Flying Crows SSE"
"Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition"
"Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition - 2k Pack"
"Helgen Reborn"
"WARZONES - Civil Unrest for SSE"
"s6o6t LORE - Oblivion gates"
"After the Civil War - Siege Damage Repairs"
"Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul"
"Civil War Battlefields"
"Ruins Clutter Improved SE"
"Obscure's College of Winterhold"
"JS Lockpicking UI SE -2k"
"TexGen_Output"
"DynDOLOD_Output"
"Medieval Lanterns of Skyrim Civil War Aftermath patcher"
"Civil War Battlefields - USSEP Patch"
"A Quality World Map"
"Cathedral Weathers Unofficial Update"

[smr1957]

If that's your load order, it is totally borked. You need to sort it with LOOT or with MO2's built in version of LOOT. And if that is not your sorted load order, we need to see the sorted one.

[SpeedFreak1972]

Also something manual installed such as an uncapper?

[555G]

smr1957 lähetti viestin:

If that's your load order, it is totally borked. You need to sort it with LOOT or with MO2's built in version of LOOT. And if that is not your sorted load order, we need to see the sorted one.

I ran it trough loot and that´s the load order it gave to me. I mean you dont´t have do do something else except of pressing "sort plugins", do you?

[555G]

SpeedFreak1972 lähetti viestin:

Also something manual installed such as an uncapper?

only SKSE and ENB

[555G]

smr1957 lähetti viestin:

If that's your load order, it is totally borked. You need to sort it with LOOT or with MO2's built in version of LOOT. And if that is not your sorted load order, we need to see the sorted one.

I have ran it trough LOOT again and i appears to be the same. Is it possible that LOOT is bugged.

[smr1957]

Well, for example just the initial load order is wrong - it should be:
Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
Hearthfires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
[any Creation Club master-flagged ESLs you may have]
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm (if installed)
Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
[Your other ESM files]
[The rest of your mods]
SkyUI should be after USSEP and any .esm files.
A Quality World Map should be somewhere in the middle of the build
Realistic Water Two is comprised of two files:
RealisticWaterTwo - Resources.esm
and
RealisticWaterTwo.esp

You are not showing that - and RealisticWaterTwo.esp needs to load after almost everything.

Just seeing these issues is enough to say that the load order is not as it should be,

And LOOT is not 100% reliable - it does need to be checked manually.

Also, we need the sorted load order directly from LOOT. To post your load order, just click on the 3 vertical dots in the upper right corner of the LOOT screen, click on copy load order from the drop-down menu, and then paste in the reply box here. In the newest version of LOOT, in the top left hand corner under Game, choose Copy Load order.

Also, we need the sorted load order directly from LOOT. To post your load order, just click on the 3 vertical dots in the upper right corner of the LOOT screen, click on copy load order from the drop-down menu, and then paste in the reply box here. In the newest version of LOOT, in the top left hand corner under Game, choose Copy Load order.

[Ace]

Since your using M02 I assume thats your mod list in the left window. If rest of game is not causing errors then start with mods that effect perks like ordinator or one of the patches you have. You may be missing a patch, or ordinator or one of its patches may not be installed correctly. My guess its the 20% perk one but just a guess.

As the other mention above your load order probably needs addressing. LOOT sorts your plugins; the right side of the screen for MO2 (the .esm, .esp, and .esl) but doesn't sort your mods list (the left side). Ideally it should match as much as possible.

Textgen and dyndolod output should be the bottom 2 the list provided and show dydolod.esp and occlusion.esp (both part of dyndolod output) for the plugin list.

Something to keep in mind is the lightingbolts with the plus and minus. if you select a mod those plus and minus show (green and red in the scroll wheel) what is given priority and being overwritten.

A good example of how to mod with M02 is step modifications at https://stepmodifications.org/wiki/SkyrimSE:2.0.0
Even if you don't end up using it you may want to look at it to see how to better organizer your mod list. There are also great links pinned on the top of the discussion tab.

Gamerpoet has a few great videos how to use MO2 if you want to google him.

Your off to a great start and feel free to ask more questions. I'm at 535 mods with 1058 plugins, so I can understand frustration if you can't determine which mod is the problem.

[555G]

smr1957 lähetti viestin:

Well, for example just the initial load order is wrong - it should be:
Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
Hearthfires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
[any Creation Club master-flagged ESLs you may have]
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm (if installed)
Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
[Your other ESM files]
[The rest of your mods]
SkyUI should be after USSEP and any .esm files.
A Quality World Map should be somewhere in the middle of the build
Realistic Water Two is comprised of two files:
RealisticWaterTwo - Resources.esm
and
RealisticWaterTwo.esp

You are not showing that - and RealisticWaterTwo.esp needs to load after almost everything.

Just seeing these issues is enough to say that the load order is not as it should be,

And LOOT is not 100% reliable - it does need to be checked manually.

Also, we need the sorted load order directly from LOOT. To post your load order, just click on the 3 vertical dots in the upper right corner of the LOOT screen, click on copy load order from the drop-down menu, and then paste in the reply box here. In the newest version of LOOT, in the top left hand corner under Game, choose Copy Load order.

Also, we need the sorted load order directly from LOOT. To post your load order, just click on the 3 vertical dots in the upper right corner of the LOOT screen, click on copy load order from the drop-down menu, and then paste in the reply box here. In the newest version of LOOT, in the top left hand corner under Game, choose Copy Load order.

I addressed the other points you mentioned.

So here is the load order of LOOT:
0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 ccBGSSSE001-Fish.esm
254 FE 0 ccbgssse006-stendarshammer.esl
254 FE 1 ccbgssse010-petdwarvenarmoredmudcrab.esl
254 FE 2 ccbgssse011-hrsarmrelvn.esl
254 FE 3 ccbgssse012-hrsarmrstl.esl
254 FE 4 ccbgssse020-graycowl.esl
254 FE 5 ccQDRSSE001-SurvivalMode.esl
254 FE 6 ccqdrsse002-firewood.esl
254 FE 7 ccbgssse035-petnhound.esl
254 FE 8 ccBGSSSE037-Curios.esl
6 6 ccbgssse016-umbra.esm
254 FE 9 ccbgssse064-ba_elven.esl
254 FE a ccbgssse063-ba_ebony.esl
254 FE b ccbgssse062-ba_dwarvenmail.esl
254 FE c ccbgssse060-ba_dragonscale.esl
254 FE d ccbgssse057-ba_stalhrim.esl
7 7 ccBGSSSE025-AdvDSGS.esm
8 8 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
9 9 Lanterns Of Skyrim II.esm
10 a RealisticWaterTwo - Resources.esm
11 b DynDOLOD.esm
12 c SkyUI_SE.esp
254 FE e Particle Patch for ENB.esp
13 d WARZONES - SSE - Civil Unrest.esp
14 e SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
15 f Lore Weapon Expansion - Daedric Crescent.esp
16 10 Lore Weapon Expansion - Goldbrand.esp
17 11 Lore Weapon Expansion - Relics of the Crusader.esp
18 12 NoBSAIProjectileDodge.esp
19 13 RaceMenu.esp
20 14 RaceMenuPlugin.esp
21 15 Cathedral Weathers.esp
22 16 Cathedral Landscapes.esp
254 FE f Cathedral - Rocky Shores.esp
23 17 BlendedRoads.esp
24 18 SkyHUD.esp
254 FE 10 aMidianBorn_Buildings Landscapes.esp
25 19 COTN - Falkreath.esp
26 1a COTN - Dawnstar.esp
27 1b OCW_Obscure's_CollegeofWinterhold.esp
28 1c Medieval Lanterns of Skyrim.esp
29 1d COTN - Morthal.esp
30 1e Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.esp
31 1f MysticismMagic.esp
32 20 The Great Town of Ivarstead.esp
33 21 Obsidian Mountain Fogs.esp
254 FE 11 JK's Understone Keep.esp
34 22 The Great City of Winterhold.esp
35 23 WICO - Immersive People.esp
36 24 The Great Town of Karthwasten.esp
37 25 The Great Town of Shor's Stone.esp
38 26 Helgen Reborn.esp
39 27 The Great Village of Old Hroldan.esp
40 28 Undriel_QuaintRavenRock.esp
254 FE 12 JK's High Hrothgar.esp
41 29 Immersive Encounters.esp
42 2a ArteFake.esp
43 2b DungeonsRevisited.esp
44 2c The Great Village of Mixwater Mill.esp
254 FE 13 JK's Arnleif and Sons Trading Company.esp
254 FE 14 JK's Jorrvaskr.esp
254 FE 15 JK's Temple of Mara.esp
254 FE 16 JK's Silver-Blood Inn.esp
45 2d CWB.esp
254 FE 17 JK's New Gnisis Cornerclub.esp
254 FE 18 JK's Riverwood Trader.esp
46 2e JK's Riverwood.esp
47 2f The Great City of Rorikstead.esp
254 FE 19 s6o6t Lore - Oblivion Gates.esp
254 FE 1a JK's The Bannered Mare.esp
48 30 The Great City of Dragon Bridge.esp
254 FE 1b OCW_TGCoW_FEPatch.esp
254 FE 1c JK's Sleeping Giant Inn.esp
49 31 FlyingCrowsSSE.esp
254 FE 1d JK's The Ragged Flagon.esp
50 32 Arcanum.esp
51 33 20 More Perk Points.esp
52 34 ktWeaponPackSE.esp
53 35 Lucien.esp
254 FE 1e COTN Falkreath - Medieval Lanterns Patch.esp
254 FE 1f PaarthurnaxQuestExpansion.esp
254 FE 20 CWRepairs.esp
254 FE 21 LoS II - JKs Riverwood patch.esp
54 36 Missives.esp
254 FE 22 CWB_USSEP Patch.esp
254 FE 23 Nilheim_MiscQuestExpansion.esp
254 FE 24 medievallanternsofskyrimtentdestroyerpatch.esp
55 37 PaladinArtifactsAndArmor.esp
254 FE 25 COTN Morthal - Medieval Lanterns Patch.esp
254 FE 26 HouseOfHorrorsQuestExpansion.esp
254 FE 27 Lucien-Camping-Patch.esp
254 FE 28 Lucien-Umbra-Patch.esp
56 38 AVExpansion.esp
57 39 icebladeofthemonarch.esp
58 3a BeyondSkyrimMerchant.esp
254 FE 29 Headhunter - Bounties Redone.esp
254 FE 2a BountiesRedone_MissivesExtension.esp
59 3b DawnguardArsenal.esp
254 FE 2b Dirt and Blood - Dynamic Visuals.esp
60 3c DIS_Heavy_Legion.esp
61 3d DIS_Heavy_Legion_WICO.esp
62 3e DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp
63 3f DSerCombatGameplayOverhaul.esp
64 40 El_WayfarersCoatSSE.esp
254 FE 2c JK's Belethor's General Goods.esp
254 FE 2d JK's Warmaiden's.esp
254 FE 2e JKs Warmaiden's Harvestable Statics.esp
65 41 LLWayfarer.esp
66 42 Lore Weapon Expansion.esp
254 FE 2f LoS II - SMIM patch.esp
254 FE 30 LoS II - USSEP patch.esp
254 FE 31 LoS II - HelgenReborn patch.esp
254 FE 32 OCW_A-aNAoM_FEPatch.esp
254 FE 33 OCW_MaMO_FEPatch.esp
254 FE 34 OCW_MusicPatch_VanillaPlus.esp
67 43 QuickLight.esp
68 44 SmoothCam.esp
69 45 WICO - Immersive Character.esp
70 46 WICO - Immersive Dawnguard.esp
71 47 WICO - Wild Hunt Gears.esp
72 48 Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp
254 FE 35 Cathedral Weather Godrays.esp
73 49 IcePenguinWorldMap.esp
74 4a Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
75 4b MysticOrdinator.esp
76 4c Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
77 4d Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
254 FE 36 JK's The Winking Skeever.esp
78 4e Convenient Horses.esp
254 FE 37 CWR_IC_Patch.esp
79 4f Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
254 FE 38 COTN Falkreath - Alternate Start Patch.esp
254 FE 39 COTN Morthal - Alternate Start Patch.esp
80 50 Luminosity Lighting Overhaul.esp
81 51 ENB Light.esp
254 FE 3a OCW_CellSettings.esp
82 52 RealisticWaterTwo.esp
83 53 DynDOLOD.esp
254 FE 3b Occlusion.esp

Thanks in advance for your help.

[Týr]

555G lähetti viestin:

smr1957 lähetti viestin:

If that's your load order, it is totally borked. You need to sort it with LOOT or with MO2's built in version of LOOT. And if that is not your sorted load order, we need to see the sorted one.

I ran it trough loot and that´s the load order it gave to me. I mean you dont´t have do do something else except of pressing "sort plugins", do you?

Yes, you need to "apply changes".

[dexter]

If you have survival mode enabled in Skyrim SE you have to sleep to level up and get your perk point as well

[smr1957]

Thanks, 555G, that is much better! Also, it is as Dexter said - so check to ensure that is not the problem first (always try the simplest thing first - if that doesn't work, then you can proceed to some other troubleshooting steps.

Good luck - I hope it is as simple as Dexter indicated!

[555G]

dexter lähetti viestin:

If you have survival mode enabled in Skyrim SE you have to sleep to level up and get your perk point as well

Sometimes it is about the simple things.

[smr1957]

That's great that it was something as easy as that! Glad you got it fixed!