Random people going aggro in Whiterun

[dvdbillen]

No bounty. Everyone else is normal. I walk into the Drunken Huntsman and Elrindir triggers a red dot and starts shooting at me with a bow and arrow. Nobody else in the store cared about me.

I made it out of there and went to the Bannered Mare. Some nord merc type lady who's name I forget goes red dot. Nobody else.

It's sort of fun actually, but broken I think. Does anyone know if this is a known issue?

[SpeedFreak1972]

Did you try the punch a guard solution? also did you remove any mods during the play through?

[dvdbillen]

Originally posted by SpeedFreak1972:

Did you try the punch a guard solution? also did you remove any mods during the play through?

Punch a guard? The guards and everyone else are friendly. I think I've heard of a similar bug where the whole town is angry and you punch a guard.

I did not uninstall any mods.

[Know Won]

old reoccuring bug, you may have a bounty that only some npcs will be triggered by, punching a guard and surrendering (paying fine or going to jail) can fix that.
You maybe picked up something and was accused of theft by a bird. Ever have an npc run up to you and say something like 'lucky you to find that lying around, you beat me to it', when no one was in line of sight of you? I think the fish are spies as well...

[dvdbillen]

Originally posted by Orisit:

old reoccuring bug, you may have a bounty that only some npcs will be triggered by, punching a guard and surrendering (paying fine or going to jail) can fix that.
You maybe picked up something and was accused of theft by a bird. Ever have an npc run up to you and say something like 'lucky you to find that lying around, you beat me to it', when no one was in line of sight of you? I think the fish are spies as well...

I somehow have a 40 septim bounty in Eastmarch. I think I friendly fired a lot of people with destruction magic when fighting with a bandit near there. Not sure why random people in Whiterun would care.

Edit: I might have killed a chicken in that scuffle.

[Quevik]

There's a semi-frequent and known bug in skyrim where the game treats you like you have a bounty but only the non-guard aggressive people will actually act on it. (Like uthgard in the bannered mare).

Punch a guard and pay the fine you get from punching the guard and you'll be good to go. Just, store any stolen goods first.

[alexander_dougherty]

Originally posted by dvdbillen:

Originally posted by SpeedFreak1972:

Did you try the punch a guard solution? also did you remove any mods during the play through?

Punch a guard? The guards and everyone else are friendly. I think I've heard of a similar bug where the whole town is angry and you punch a guard.

It's the same bug.
Just a slightly different manifestation of it.

[ralphtobybob]

I had a similar problem. I don't recall that ever happening in vanilla playthroughs though.
I've narrowed it down to a mod called Immersive Guard and Power 1.2 and another.
The description does say 'allies become enemies'. But local militias from that and other mods travel to other parts of Skyrim and will attack outside of their hold if you have a bounty. If one of them turns on you if you don't have a bounty, local guards won't react but a wandering guard from the same hold will and defending against the attack generates a fine. Worse, if an Imperial or Stormcloak patrol from the same hold was nearby, they'd attack too.

The other one is Populated Skyrim Hell Edition. After removing the first and loading a vanilla save, a random patron in the Drunken Huntsman attacked and everyone attacked him.
Later in the game, everyone including Elrindor attacked. After exiting the Drunken Huntsman, guards and everyone else started attacking Elrindor who had followed me out, but not me.

So far in a game without either mod, I've gone multiple levels without random attacks except by hunters and Vigilants. But those are probably from encounter mods or because of Alternate Actors or the Playable Monster mod. Not a biggie worth restarting over.

[dvdbillen]

Well I punched a guard. He didn't like it. If it works I'm going to miss the excitement. Someone should make a mod where non-essential NPC's occasionally start a fight with you for no reason. (Someone probably has, but it's probably buggy and breaks the game play).

[alexander_dougherty]

Originally posted by ralphtobybob:

I had a similar problem. I don't recall that ever happening in vanilla playthroughs though.

It happens, it's not a common bug, but it does happen.
But I'm not surprised someone added it into a mod deliberately, there is little someone somewhere would not add into a mod.

[ralphtobybob]

Originally posted by alexander_dougherty:

Originally posted by ralphtobybob:

I had a similar problem. I don't recall that ever happening in vanilla playthroughs though.

It happens, it's not a common bug, but it does happen.
But I'm not surprised someone added it into a mod deliberately, there is little someone somewhere would not add into a mod.

Skyrim Unhinged was fun, but a bit repetitive at times.

[Perplex]

It happens sometimes if you kill Thalmor. Everyone is angry at you but they calm down after a few in game days.