Is there still a 255 plugins limit? | The Difference between ESL & ESP

[PhaserFelix_YT]

I am a bit confused. I keep seeing people saying there is a plugin limit. But I have 491 plugins, but I have no problem playing.

Is there something I should be worried about?

[FauxFurry]

Yes and no. Standard plug-ins and ESM files still have the 255 limit but Light Plug-Ins (esp-fe) and Light Masters (ESL) have a limit of 4096.

[PhaserFelix_YT]

Ah, I see. So that what they mean by "mark as light" I was so confused.
Alright I sorted it and it says that I have 164 "regular"

So my new question is, what if I make all of them light? At least those that allows me. I noticed that some mods don't even give the option for "light" but what if I make all mods that I can make light, light.

Easier said! Is light bad?
For now I am making all patches light and hope I don't break my 11 hours of hard working mod combining.

[PhaserFelix_YT]

Reason why I am doing all of this, is because I am trying to figure out why killmove mod is not appearing in the MCM.

[FauxFurry]

There is nothing wrong with Light format at all. It is just that not all mods can have their files compacted enough to fit into a Light format. Anything that makes worldspace edits is ineligible for being converted into a light plug-in right off due to engine limitations.

[Fear2288]

To address your question about making them light.

For awhile there I was apprehensive to do it becasue I really didn’t know what it was actually going to do to my files/mods, and my first thought too was “if this could be light, why didn’t the mod maker make it that way?”

I looked into it some more and it looks like it’s safe to do if a mod gives you the option to “mark as light”. I tried it for a few smaller mods at first, then some more and they all seem to continue to work fine.

I don’t know if it’s true, but I do recall seeing someone comment that you don’t want to do it for mods that are running scripts because it will mess them up. Like I said, I have no clue if that’s true and I don’t want to test that so I’ve just been marking ones that are small mods that add weapons/armor, models/meshes/textures, etc and leaving ones that touch quests, mechanics, etc alone.

[PhaserFelix_YT]

Well I only got 165 plugins now so I don't need to risk it. I mean look at this
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2862374677

100% worth the 19 hours I put into combining mods.

-I can build basically anything thanks to tundra defense. But also a boat, town, city, houses, a prison.
-I can travel to falskaar, beyond reach, bruma, forgotten city, wyrmtooth and elsyweree (Idk how to spell it)
-I have CBBE animated bodies (With underwear on because I literally have a girlfriend playing this game and I am not going to explain to her why sofia keep taking her clothes off (Which is a bug I guess)
-I have ultimate combat system with parrying and even catching arrows mid air. Dodging and even rolling. New magic, animations on basically everything, from walking to firing a cannon.
-I have dialogue overhauls breaking the feeling of "this is a game" to holy moly did she just comment on me walking too fast for her? I can comment on their looks, insult them, ask about their days, ask if they need help and now everyone have a romance quest before you can actually romance them! (No more walking up with a necklace and saying hey you are mine now)
-I have a revamped religion overhaul so now I actually need to PRAY or just ignore the gods "favour"
-I have so many new enemies, from goblins to half dragon people. Btw HELP!
-And lastly a complete visual overhaul on every major city and towns, with flora, water, wind, snow (Footprints) and of course lighting overhaul.

The only thing missing is the "realistic" aspect. Like Ineed, but tbh I always turn off the need to eat anyway. Drinking is often the only thing I need.
Also I wanted 8k, but that sadly made my frames go from 150 to like 60.

So tbh I am happy with the game now. Tho if anyone has any suggestion I would be happy to try to add them.

[PhaserFelix_YT]

Oh also, thanks for everyones help. I give yall a award.

[(Chim cha)]

Yes and no. The game will only load so many esp's. If an esp isn't toooo important just put it last as it wont load. Game file tweaks and replaces are endless. Some mods I prefer 'broken' ;) muhahaha

[smr1957]

Originally posted by SPooKie:

Yes and no. The game will only load so many esp's. If an esp isn't toooo important just put it last as it wont load. Game file tweaks and replaces are endless. Some mods I prefer 'broken' ;) muhahaha

Really bad advice, if it is meant as a serious comment - if so, just completely ignore it, as that is how to break your game.

If you have too many standard plug-ins, either flag them as an .esl (according to the below guide), get rid of some mods (and their patches - but not just the patches - that will break things), or, if you are experienced in the use of xEdit, merge some mods. But all these things need to be done BEFORE you start a playthrough. Once you start a playthrough, you can do none of these things without breaking the game (unless you are adding a mod, in which case it is okay, provided the mod or mods have never been in your load order yet that playthrough).

As for changing a standard plug-in to a Lite plug-in, see the How to Flag a Mod as an .esl File section in the following guide:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2660673605
(from PINNED TOPIC Helpful Links and References, Section 4, Modding the Game)

[alexander_dougherty]

Originally posted by SPooKie:

Yes and no. The game will only load so many esp's. If an esp isn't toooo important just put it last as it wont load. Game file tweaks and replaces are endless. Some mods I prefer 'broken' ;) muhahaha

um.... NO!!!!!!

That is not how you do a load order.
Sarcasm and Irony don't come across that well in a written medium (sometimes they do in a written large, but not a written medium), and people will think this is actual advice....