WTF is going on?

[JM4K]

I literally have no clue at this point.. I've reverted ini files and disabled EVERY graphical mod in my modlist, yet somehow I still get shadow/light flickering issues like shown here - https://youtu.be/sfDTTfskIs0 - when I launch skyrim in it's vanilla state.. NOTHING happens. I will post my mod list, but all graphical enhancing or shader mods have been disabled.

If you want my esp list lmk

- mod list -


+NAT.ENB III - Natural and Atmospheric Tamriel ENB 3.0.4
+Skyrim 3D Trees and Plants
+FSMPV - HDT-SMP XML Schema
+Schlongs of Skyrim SE
+SoS AE
+YoRHa 2B Attire - TBD
-DynDOLOD_Output
-Indistinguishable Billboards for Skyrim SE
-Cathedral - 3D Pine Grass
+Fores New Idles in Skyrim SE - FNIS SE
-HDT-SMP (Skinned Mesh Physics)
+Maleficus' Traversal (EVGAT)
+ndh's Animation Overhaul
+ADXP I MCO elden rim moveset collection (SCAR)
+SCAR - Skyrim Combos AI Revolution
+Smooth Magic Casting Animation
-Hellblade - Timed Block
-Arena Movement
+Combat
+Sprint
+Regalia of the Scorned
-Vanargand Animations - Sneak Archery
-For Honor in Skyrim I Gryphon
+dTry's Key Utils
+ADXP
+Better Third Person Selection - BTPS
+EVG Animated Traversal
+Immersive Interactions - Animated Actions
+Arcanum - A New Age of Magic (Fixed)
+Arcanum - A New Age of Magic 4.0.1 Bugfix
+Ultimate Paralysis Spell
+Arcanum - A New Age of Magic
+EVG Animation Variance
-Combat Gameplay Overhaul SE
+Vanargand Animations - Archery
+Auto Hide Ammo
+Disable Auto-Aim
+Nemesis Patch
+Smooth Random Jump Animation - Rework
+Better Jumping SE
+BAAB - Better Arrows and Bows Special Edition
+InsanitySorrow Weapons Pack
+Sword of Ancient Tongues
+Dragonslayer Bow and Siege Arrows SSE
+Veydosebrom Regions
+Depths of Skyrim - An Underwater Overhaul SSE
-QW's Grass Patch - Veydosebrom Regions - Folkvangr - Cathedral - Depths of Skyrim
+ENB Helper SE
-Enhanced Volumetric Lighting and Shadows (EVLaS)
+IFrame Generator
+Deadly Mutilation
+XP32 Maximum Skeleton Special Extended
+DMCO
+Shadow Boost
+More Powerful Basic Spells
+Auto Input Switch
+Zartar's Character Behaviors Enhanced
-Conditional Armor Type Animations
+Ryan Reos High Priestess Outfit with HDT-SMP Physics - CBBE SSE - CBBE 3BA - TBD - BHUNP
+Daughters of Dimitrescu Outfit - CBBE 3BA - TBD - BHUNP
+COCO 2B Wedding Outfit - CBBE-TBD-BHUNP SE
+Bewitching Heart Succubus Outfit - CBBE 3BA - TBD - BHUNP
+Hellraiser Outfit - CBBE 3BA - BHUNP
+Tifa Lockhart Remake Outfit - CBBE 3BA - TBD
+Sky Idles
-Sprint Swimming
+Payload Interpreter
+Lively Children Animations (DAR)
+Retimed Hit Frames
+Archery Gameplay Overhaul SE
+Proper Spell Cast Direction
+WHO HA BEGONE (A level up music remover)
+Add Spell Menu
+Better MessageBox Controls
+Multiple Followers Framework
+Katarina Armor
+DX Celes Nightingale Outfit and Weapons - UNP
+DX Tembtra Thief Outfit - UNP
+DX Emfy Cleric Outfit - UNP
+Legendary Armors - Bikini Complete SSE V4.02 esp only
+Legendary Armors - Bikini SSE Beta
+Killer Keos Skimpy CBBE V2-V3 Armor Replacer - Special Edition
+Dream Angels Natural Edition Preset
-DynDOLOD Resources SE
+Fixed body collision
+Immersive Roads swapped texture files for Real Roads
+Real Roads SE
+Dragonslayer Bow and Siege Arrows v1.7 ALL IN ONE-59335-1-7
+Artifacts - The Breton Paladin [SSE]
+Sulfuras, The Reclaimed Hand SE - Johnskyrim
-Pretty Female Idles
+Shadowmourne SE - Johnskyrim
+Simple Mod Item Spawner -Alternative To AddItemMenu for AE VR or SE
+RaceMenu High Heels (Height Fixes)
+CBBE 3BBB - Skimpy Assassin Outfit
+Red Sonja Armor (CBBE 3BBB with clothing SMP)
+Nibenean Armors and Outfit CBBE
+CBBE SMP (3BBB)
+YS Warm Life - CBBE SE
+Shino Onna Bugeisha - CBBE SE
+YoRHa 2B Attire - CBBE 3BA - BHUNP
-Shino Onna Bugeisha - CBBE-TBD-BHUNP SE
+Nibenean Armors and Outfit - 3BA - BHUNP - CBBE
+Put That Away
+Lordaeron Soldier Armory 3BA
+3BA Vanilla Armor Replacer
+UIExtensions
+Faster HDT-SMP
+KS Hairdos - HDT SMP (Physics)
+Easy wind
+Relationship Dialogue Overhaul - RDO SE
+Domana_v1.5_HPH
+Kassandra Racemenu and Bodyslide Preset
+A Quality World Map and Solstheim Map - With Roads
-EVG Conditional Idles
-Dual Wield Improved Animation SSE
+Kyo Follower by Anuketh
+SmoothCam
+SSE Display Tweaks
+Monitor Refresh Rate Uncap
+(SKSE64) Havok Fix
+Static Mesh Improvement Mod
+Smoking Torches and Candles SSE
+Embers HD
+Realistic Lighting Overhaul (RLO) SSE All-In-One Installer
+KS Hairdos SSE
+Female Makeup Suite - Face - RaceMenu Overlays of Eyeliner EyeShadow Contours and Highlights - Special Edition
+Female Face Preset SE 4
+SG Female Eyebrows
+The Eyes Of Beauty SSE
-Touched by Dibella
+Accurate BodySlide Series Cortana - BHUNP - CBBE
+Majestic Mountains - Patch for Dynamic Volumetric Lighting and Sun Shadows
+Kingdookoo's CBBE Bodyslide preset
+Majestic Mountains
+Dave's UFHD Mountains SE
+Toned and Shapely Body for CBBE and 3BA Vagina Add-On
+Iconic Statues
+Voluptuous Body (CBBE Bodyslide Preset)
+Skyrim 2022 - Whiterun by Pfuscher
+Pomona Amphora Bodyslide Preset for CBBE-3BA-3BBB and BHUNP
+BodySlide and Outfit Studio
+CBPC - Physics with Collisions
+PapyrusUtil SE - Modders Scripting Utility Functions
+CBBE 3BA
+Immersive Sounds - Compendium
+Tempered Skins for Males - SOS Full Version
-Folkvangr - Grass and Landscape Overhaul
+(SGC) Normal Attack Stamina Consumption - NASC
+ApachiiSkyHair SSE
+Dynamic Animation Replacer
+Silent Player SE - Combat-Out of Breath-Death (SPCOB)
+Water for ENB
+RaceMenu
+The Pure - CBBE
+Caliente's Beautiful Bodies Enhancer -CBBE-
+Calientes Beautiful Bodies Edition -CBBE-
+Enhanced Blood Textures
+Kynreeve Armor SSE
+Berserk Judeau Armor
+Contractor Armor
+Katana Crafting - SE
+Believable weapons
+JContainers SE
+No Spinning Death Animation SE
+VioLens - A Killmove Mod SE
+TrueHUD - HUD Additions
+MCM Helper
+Project New Reign - Nemesis Unlimited Behavior Engine
+NORDIC UI - Interface Overhaul
+SkyHUD
+SkyUI
+Reforging - To the Masses (Weapons Expansion)
+RaceCompatibility with fixes for SSE
+Nymph Girls of Skyrim - CBBE SE - Plugins
+True Directional Movement - Modernized Third Person Gameplay
+3PCO - 3rd Person Camera Overhaul - Smooth Camera Follow
+Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch

[ĿIFE oƒ ƤIE]

You get flickering lights when light sources are "overlapping", when you see it occurring do you try turning the camera to different angles, it will likely look normal at an angle.

Far as I know it's a game bug, not sure of any fix.

[JM4K]

Originally posted by ĿIFE oƒ ƤIE:

You get flickering lights when light sources are "overlapping", when you see it occurring do you try turning the camera to different angles, it will likely look normal at an angle.

Far as I know it's a game bug, not sure of any fix.

Yeah but how is that possible without and lighting mods? When I disabled all graphical/ lighting/shader mods, it literally looks like vanilla skyrim but with flickering. And btw by graphical i mean i even dsabled smim type ♥♥♥♥.

[Fear2288]

Yeah, afaik this happens due to too many light sources attempting to cast light/shadow on the same area/object.

I’m not gonna read through your list, clearly you’re using too many mods that add light sources and/or shadows.

As I understand it, the game is hard wired to “switch off” light sources when you’ve got too many trying to affect the same thing.

Side note: clearly you didn’t disable every graphical mod as that is definitely not what vanilla Skyrim looks like in regards to its lighting/color/etc.

[JM4K]

Originally posted by Fear2288:

Yeah, afaik this happens due to too many light sources attempting to cast light/shadow on the same area/object.

I’m not gonna read through your list, clearly you’re using too many mods that add light sources and/or shadows.

As I understand it, the game is hard wired to “switch off” light sources when you’ve got too many trying to affect the same thing.

If you actually read my reply to the other dude and my description. I disabled all of those light, shadow, shader, or texture mods and I still get the problem, but when I go straight vanilla, it stops.

[ĿIFE oƒ ƤIE]

Originally posted by JM4K:

Originally posted by Fear2288:

Yeah, afaik this happens due to too many light sources attempting to cast light/shadow on the same area/object.

I’m not gonna read through your list, clearly you’re using too many mods that add light sources and/or shadows.

As I understand it, the game is hard wired to “switch off” light sources when you’ve got too many trying to affect the same thing.

If you actually read my reply to the other dude and my description. I disabled all of those light, shadow, shader, or texture mods and I still get the problem, but when I go straight vanilla, it stops.

Disabled some mods = it still happens
Only Vanilla = not happening

This can only mean that you still have a mod active which is casting its own light source. Like I said, too many lights in the same radius will cause flickering. Only way to "fix" is less light sources, especially those fixed on your own char.

[Fear2288]

You’d be surprised what some mods sneak in there.

For example, Majestic Mountains can alter the position of the outdoor sunlight source even though it’s mainly just a mountain retexture.

I see you’re using something by Pfuscher. His newer stuff is all parallax now which I know doesn’t play nice with certain shaders and lighting mods and can cause all kinds of weirdness.

Revisit all your lighting and shadow mods and double check compatibilities.

Or try just disabling Pfuscher’s Whiterun.

Side note: whyre you using Dance of Death and VioLens?

Pretty sure DoD is an Oldrim mod and VioLens is just the SE version.

[Corinze]

I don't think EVLas and Shadow Boost are compatible with your ENB. You can only use interior lighting mods. You can not use shadow, fog or exterior lighting mods, per the description page.

Double check your mods
(: INCOMPATIBILITY :
It is important to understand that the incompability list below is not a loss;
Everything is already handled and tailored from NATENB and you simply no longer have to be worried about any of this mods:

- Any weather mod (exterior fog or night modifications are weather mods)
- Dynamic Volumetric Lighting and Sun Shadows
- Any cloud retextures such as Etheral Clouds (stars, Moon and auroras are OK)
- Any Sky and Clouds meshes modifications such as Improved Sky Meshes or Smoother Skies (Obsidian Mountain Fogs is OK)
- Particle Patch for ENB since it's included, updated and expanded in NATENB files
- Fake mist mods
- Fake subsurface scatering mods
- Fire and torchlight mods (retextures are OK)
- Thunder and rain retextures and sounds
- Night Eye mods
)

[JM4K]

I found that it was a mod called "Shadow boost" that I thought I already disabled and tested but guess not. Thanks everyone!