can anyone explain what before and after means (vortex)

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thanks, totally confused as to this stuff.. lol

[tulle040657]

After means it is the one that wins. Any of its's meshes and textures will overwrite the ones before it.

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Diposting pertama kali oleh tulle040657:

After means it is the one that wins. Any of its's meshes and textures will overwrite the ones before it.

thnks mate.


random question, but do you have any idea as to how to prevent the black face issue with immersive college of winterhold? i'm using a mod that changes most NPC faces so it's almost directly related to those, only using 2 mods that change nps. 1: the bijin series (NPC's, Wives) for example and 2: "pandorable npc's" changes a bunch of random nps in the world that aren't related to Bijin..

[mikk011]

ICOW has difficulties with other NPC replacers. Any other NPC replacer you use should load after ICOW. Also, check the ICOW modpage to see if it lists any patches for mods you use, and the author has an article on the modpage about dealing with NPC texture conflicts.

[Vlad 254]

Before and After are the "Rules".
I'd also add that since Vortex uses Loot API and because Loot can be wrong at times you should not always blindly accept the "Before or After" suggestions you'll see. For example (but not limited to) many times Loot/Vortex will suggest you load a patch before the mods it's patching which of course should not be the case. There are also times the mod author gives you specific load order instructions for their mod and say 2 specific other mods and loot gives you different information. Then of course there are times you can safely decide whichever Rule you choose depending on which mod you decide should win the conflict.

I suggest you watch Gopher's Vortex tutorials.
For example:
https://youtu.be/BRo8I32ASSw

and
https://youtu.be/eSkurhkPSyw

These are both part of a series that Gopher does an absolute excellent job on and I highly recommend you watch them all.

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Diposting pertama kali oleh Vlad 254:

Before and After are the "Rules".
I'd also add that since Vortex uses Loot API and because Loot can be wrong at times you should not always blindly accept the "Before or After" suggestions you'll see. For example (but not limited to) many times Loot/Vortex will suggest you load a patch before the mods it's patching which of course should not be the case. There are also times the mod author gives you specific load order instructions for their mod and say 2 specific other mods and loot gives you different information. Then of course there are times you can safely decide whichever Rule you choose depending on which mod you decide should win the conflict.

I suggest you watch Gopher's Vortex tutorials.
For example:
https://youtu.be/BRo8I32ASSw

and
https://youtu.be/eSkurhkPSyw

These are both part of a series that Gopher does an absolute excellent job on and I highly recommend you watch them all.

how does Vortex decide on the suggestions??

[CEPHY]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Vlad 254:

Before and After are the "Rules".
I'd also add that since Vortex uses Loot API and because Loot can be wrong at times you should not always blindly accept the "Before or After" suggestions you'll see..

Another example;

I installed the humanoid vampire lord mod + animation replacer
I'd need to load the animations last, but vortex wants them first, which renders the animation mod useless.

Can't trust LOOT with everything, people.

[Vlad 254]

Diposting pertama kali oleh 𝕭𝖚𝖈𝖍𝖆𝖓𝖆𝖓:

how does Vortex decide on the suggestions??

Vortex uses Loot's API for it's suggestions.

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Diposting pertama kali oleh Vlad 254:

Diposting pertama kali oleh 𝕭𝖚𝖈𝖍𝖆𝖓𝖆𝖓:

how does Vortex decide on the suggestions??

Vortex uses Loot's API for it's suggestions.

so can i ask if loot was even necessary to use before playing or do you really still need it?

[alexander_dougherty]

Diposting pertama kali oleh 𝕭𝖚𝖈𝖍𝖆𝖓𝖆𝖓:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Vlad 254:

Vortex uses Loot's API for it's suggestions.

so can i ask if loot was even necessary to use before playing or do you really still need it?

Well if you are having trouble pasting your load order on these forums, then a separate LOOT can do that..... otherwise you probably don't need it as a separate ap....

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Diposting pertama kali oleh alexander_dougherty:

Diposting pertama kali oleh 𝕭𝖚𝖈𝖍𝖆𝖓𝖆𝖓:

so can i ask if loot was even necessary to use before playing or do you really still need it?

Well if you are having trouble pasting your load order on these forums, then a separate LOOT can do that..... otherwise you probably don't need it as a separate ap....

ah.

[Vlad 254]

Loot is great for many things including it's messages. Messages that will point out if you are missing a particular patch or patches along with the appropriate links. Also compatibility messages between mods. And although it's not always correct about it's "Before/After" suggestions it often is correct so it can be used as it describes, meaning as suggestions. For all of these reasons I always at least consult Loot.

I should note that in the Vortex Plugins section Vortex will give you Loot messages. Sometimes if the messages are short enough Vortex will give you the complete message, otherwise Vortex will alert you to check the Loot message directly in Loot.

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another unrelated question, lol literally havent played skyrim in 3 plus years until i had a fancy and starting modding skyrim special edition a few days ago..

whats the most current equivelant to UFO mod ? or EFF for skyrim special edition :)

if i remember rightly UFO was the broken one? idk ..

just need more followers so if someone could let me know that'd be cool.

[Vlad 254]

Diposting pertama kali oleh 𝕭𝖚𝖈𝖍𝖆𝖓𝖆𝖓:

another unrelated question, lol literally havent played skyrim in 3 plus years until i had a fancy and starting modding skyrim special edition a few days ago..

whats the most current equivelant to UFO mod ? or EFF for skyrim special edition :)

if i remember rightly UFO was the broken one? idk ..

just need more followers so if someone could let me know that'd be cool.

I use and recommend "Nether's Follower Framework"
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/55653

[Vlad 254]

OR if you are looking for something other than what I posted you can check out
Amazing Follower Tweaks SE (AFT)
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/6656

I used it for years with no issues

(there is also a mod called iAFT (Immersive Amazing Follower Tweaks)

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Diposting pertama kali oleh Vlad 254:

OR if you are looking for something other than what I posted you can check out
Amazing Follower Tweaks SE (AFT)
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/6656

I used it for years with no issues

(there is also a mod called iAFT (Immersive Amazing Follower Tweaks)

does NAT conflict with elfx? i mainly just use ELFX for the nice candle smoke and immersive interior look that it gives but it doesn't have any information on the main page of NAT if it conflicts with ELFX.. lol