Who do you guys side with, Imperial or stormcloak.

[ıYı Авитохол ıYı]

Personally i side with the stormcloaks.

[kharille]

Went with Stormcloaks first time around. You don't get a second chance at killing that Redguard imperial captain do you?

[Danke]

Neither. Yet. Maybe I will on this playthrough, but I've never even started the Civil War quest.

But if I ever choose, probably the Imperials.

[FizzyElf]

Escrito originalmente por Nebukadnezar:

Personally i side with the stormcloaks.

I guess the Stormcloaks are my favorite, they let me speedrun out of the opening section without any need to have played the opening before, then I ditched the main random cloak guy and wondered off into the wilderness.

[Valecoer]

when the hammer or the anvil rebel against the smith, the only one who gains is the enchanter next door.

When you only accept the lens that the game gives you, standing by the stormcloaks makes the most sense. Only taking a broader view makes you realize what's at work here. THe people of Skyrim hate the Imperium for concessions that the elves forced on them. Concessions they were forced to accept out of weakness.

An independant Skyrim allows the Thalmor to do what they truly want, which is to eradicate humanity as the pest they see the followers of Talos to be. Whether your see Ulfric as a heroic savior or power hungry demagogue, he is everything the Thalmor need him to be.

In 4 games, I have stood my the Empire built by Tiber Septim. I will not abandon it now in its hour of weakness

[FizzyElf]

Escrito originalmente por Valecoer:

when the hammer or the anvil rebel against the smith, the only one who gains is the enchanter next door.

When you only accept the lens that the game gives you, standing by the stormcloaks makes the most sense. Only taking a broader view makes you realize what's at work here. THe people of Skyrim hate the Imperium for concessions that the elves forced on them. Concessions they were forced to accept out of weakness.

An independant Skyrim allows the Thalmor to do what they truly want, which is to eradicate humanity as the pest they see the followers of Talos to be. Whether your see Ulfric as a heroic savior or power hungry demagogue, he is everything the Thalmor need him to be.

In 4 games, I have stood my the Empire built by Tiber Septim. I will not abandon it now in its hour of weakness

Stormcloaks give you the keys to freedom first, take the easy path, choose the darkside (and preferably leave the slow stormcloak NPC in your dust and explore skyrim to your hearts content).

[ıYı Авитохол ıYı]

Thing is the empire has many times betrayed it's citizens, not just in skyrim but In many places, they allow a foreign government to do policing for them, that means the empire failed in it's own duties, they also abandoned morrowind during the argonian attack. Yeah ulfric is a bit of a nut job and a little hypocritical with his talos nonsense but separation with the empire is a necessity.

[𝔍𝔬𝔥𝔫𝔰𝔬𝔫]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_wmvPoIcI0

[ıYı Авитохол ıYı]

Escrito originalmente por 𝔍𝔬𝔥𝔫𝔰𝔬𝔫 陳:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_wmvPoIcI0

Me

[gugnihr]

I side with the Stormcloacks, at first it was hard for me to decide because I love Oblivion, I expecially love Cyrodiil, soat first it made me feel bad being against imperials, I felt like betraying siomething important (Cyrodiil is one of my favourite locations from ANY game), but then I thought about it carefully and Stormcloacks are right. I don't betray Cyrodiil, I think that Cyrodiil would deserve better leaders. I know that Ulfric is not a very good leader but the ideals of Stormcloacks are right, they are right in theory at least, and this is better than being just plain wrong.
I don't really hate imperials, I just think that they are fools and I don't agree with them, the ones that I really hate are Thalmors (and vampires too, but this is beyond the point of this discussion :P ) but I would never support them unless they change their mindset.
A few days ago I have decided to start the main quest for the first time and I will support Stormcloacks. I will just imagine that after the events of the game eventually they will find a better leader than Ulfric and things will get better.

[gugnihr]

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Escrito originalmente por BigD:

On my current play through... none. I am 320 hours in and have not even killed that first dragon at the watch tower.

Thats impressive :)

I have spent at least 1000 hours without killing the first dragon in my current play through!
I have started the main quest with a "temp" character now, I want to know everything so that I will master it like an almighty supernatural being with my favourite character (which my character is in my mind)

I have started the main quest in the past but never finished it because the main quest in Oblivion was the only quest that I did not like, but now I have the feeling that probably Skyrim is the opposite, and the main quest here might be the only good one. (I don't like too much any other quest, they are much worse than in Oblivion in my opinion)

[Yellowbeard]

1st person, 2nd person, 3rd person...instinct, emotion, reason...Ethos, Pathos, Logos...
Chimp, Child, Christ...adult, human, adult human...you are what you use...Amen.

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[whatamidoing]

Escrito originalmente por Lemunde:

I usually don't. From a RP perspective I just look at it as something going on in the background that's not my problem. From a more meta position, it's pretty obvious the real enemy is the Thalmor who are exacerbating the situation for their own ends. The only way to win is to not involve yourself in the war.

Wrong, the Thalmor want the war to go on. No matter which side you pick, an end to the war is what the Thalmor absolutely do not want. I side with the Empire because a strong, united empire would do better than a bunch of bickering provinces against another strong, united empire, but there's merit to the Stormcloak complaints. I've played both so I always feel kind of bad killing the Stormcloaks, but it has to be done.

[Preston]

Here we go again this baiting question.
So, once again the easy answer:
- If you dont really know whats goin on in the game, you will always choose Stormcloacs, because "Skyrim for Nords! Hurr-Durr!" etc etc, all kids always choose Stormcloacs.
- If you are grown up person with positive IQ, and you either know the game LORE or you just read quests, you will always choose Imperials, because UIlfric is a Thalmor RAT (or as they call him "an asset"), who has already betrayed Empire during The Great War, and now Thalmor use this "rebellion" to devide Empire.
PS They (Thalmor) actually were not even goin to kill Ulfric at Helgen, because:(quote from Thalmor Dossier) "... obviously Ulfric's death would have dramatically increased the chance of an Imperial victory and thus harmed our overall position in Skyrim"

[gugnihr]

Escrito originalmente por Preston:

Here we go again this baiting question.
So, once again the easy answer:
- If you dont really know whats goin on in the game, you will always choose Stormcloacs, because "Skyrim for Nords! Hurr-Durr!" etc etc, all kids always choose Stormcloacs.
- If you are grown up person with positive IQ, and you either know the game LORE or you just read quests, you will always choose Imperials, because UIlfric is a Thalmor RAT (or as they call him "an asset"), who has already betrayed Empire during The Great War, and now Thalmor use this "rebellion" to devide Empire.
PS They (Thalmor) actually were not even goin to kill Ulfric at Helgen, because:(quote from Thalmor Dossier) "... obviously Ulfric's death would have dramatically increased the chance of an Imperial victory and thus harmed our overall position in Skyrim"

They also said that the Stormcloacks victory would harm them as well, in the same document.
When I was younger I couldn't choose, but now the situation in my (real life) country made me grow up much more than I wouldf have ever wanted to (which is "not at all" to be completely honest, but still...) and I have understood that the Nords are right and their ideals are right, and this is what I want to support.
I don't care if Ulfric is a fool, the whole concept of the imperials is foolish, and they are wrong. One can at least hope that the Stormcloacks will eventually have a better leader. But things with the imperials will never get better unless they change their mindset.

[whatamidoing]

Escrito originalmente por Preston:

Here we go again this baiting question.
So, once again the easy answer:
- If you dont really know whats goin on in the game, you will always choose Stormcloacs, because "Skyrim for Nords! Hurr-Durr!" etc etc, all kids always choose Stormcloacs.
- If you are grown up person with positive IQ, and you either know the game LORE or you just read quests, you will always choose Imperials, because UIlfric is a Thalmor RAT (or as they call him "an asset"), who has already betrayed Empire during The Great War, and now Thalmor use this "rebellion" to devide Empire.
PS They (Thalmor) actually were not even goin to kill Ulfric at Helgen, because:(quote from Thalmor Dossier) "... obviously Ulfric's death would have dramatically increased the chance of an Imperial victory and thus harmed our overall position in Skyrim"

They say Ulfric is not cooperative and, from cut dialogue from an earlier version of the opening scene iirc, the Thalmor are there at the execution to try to stop it and Tullius tells them to go ♥♥♥♥ themselves.