Can I use start quest to join imperials after The Jagged Crown

[MaxKyckling]

I realised I absolutely hate the stormcloaks, but I've already done the Jagged Crown. I've tried to use ResetQuest and SetStage and even StartQuest but none of that seems to work... Is there anything else I can do?

[DragonMaster]

Well if you've gotten the Jagged crown and you haven't given it back to the quest giver for the Storm Cloaks take it over to Solitude and give it to Gen Tullius and be part of the Imperials. I've done that lots of times.

[Lady Aeleanor]

I think your only recourse is to go back to a save before you joined the Stormcloaks. If you saw a message popup, telling you that you failed the "Join the Imperial Legion" quest item, then you cannot quit the Stormcloaks and then join the Legion, since there won't be the required dialogue anymore.

Originally posted by DragonMaster:

Well if you've gotten the Jagged crown and you haven't given it back to the quest giver for the Storm Cloaks take it over to Solitude and give it to Gen Tullius and be part of the Imperials. I've done that lots of times.

Hmmm. Didn't realize you could to that. So, if he already gave the Jagged Crown to Ulfric, then that's the point of no return?

[MaxKyckling]

Originally posted by Lady Aeleanor:

I think your only recourse is to go back to a save before you joined the Stormcloaks. If you saw a message popup, telling you that you failed the "Join the Imperial Legion" quest item, then you cannot quit the Stormcloaks and then join the Legion, since there won't be the required dialogue anymore.

Originally posted by DragonMaster:

Well if you've gotten the Jagged crown and you haven't given it back to the quest giver for the Storm Cloaks take it over to Solitude and give it to Gen Tullius and be part of the Imperials. I've done that lots of times.

Hmmm. Didn't realize you could to that. So, if he already gave the Jagged Crown to Ulfric, then that's the point of no return?

Yes. if I had the Jagged Crown I would be able to switch sides... But I've already delivered it to Ulfric :(

[Lady Aeleanor]

Originally posted by MaxKyckling:

Yes. if I had the Jagged Crown I would be able to switch sides... But I've already delivered it to Ulfric :(

Is it very far back to go to a previous save .... even to when you still had the Crown?

[MaxKyckling]

Originally posted by Lady Aeleanor:

Originally posted by MaxKyckling:

Yes. if I had the Jagged Crown I would be able to switch sides... But I've already delivered it to Ulfric :(

Is it very far back to go to a previous save .... even to when you still had the Crown?

Yeah, probably like 30-40 hours... So that's not really an option for me :(

[Lady Aeleanor]

Originally posted by MaxKyckling:

Yeah, probably like 30-40 hours... So that's not really an option for me :(

Well, sorry to say, guess you're stuck with a bunch of racist neanderthals!

[DragonMaster]

Originally posted by Lady Aeleanor:

I think your only recourse is to go back to a save before you joined the Stormcloaks. If you saw a message popup, telling you that you failed the "Join the Imperial Legion" quest item, then you cannot quit the Stormcloaks and then join the Legion, since there won't be the required dialogue anymore.

Originally posted by DragonMaster:

Well if you've gotten the Jagged crown and you haven't given it back to the quest giver for the Storm Cloaks take it over to Solitude and give it to Gen Tullius and be part of the Imperials. I've done that lots of times.

Hmmm. Didn't realize you could to that. So, if he already gave the Jagged Crown to Ulfric, then that's the point of no return?

That is correct once you give it to the quest giver there is no going back. After all once you have the crown in your possession you are not required to return it to the original guest giver. So make sure you give it to the party you want to side with.

I found this out quite by accident during one of my game plays and have tried it several times to be sure it wasn't a glitch or bug.

[DragonMaster]

Originally posted by MaxKyckling:

Originally posted by Lady Aeleanor:

I think your only recourse is to go back to a save before you joined the Stormcloaks. If you saw a message popup, telling you that you failed the "Join the Imperial Legion" quest item, then you cannot quit the Stormcloaks and then join the Legion, since there won't be the required dialogue anymore.

Hmmm. Didn't realize you could to that. So, if he already gave the Jagged Crown to Ulfric, then that's the point of no return?

Yes. if I had the Jagged Crown I would be able to switch sides... But I've already delivered it to Ulfric :(

You don't have a save for right after you got the crown. I usually save game when I pick up the crown and then I let the SC wonder what is up with it. LOL

[Know Won]

Mandatory . learn to make manual saves, best to have more then one per character.