Modlists?

[Pepper Pimienta]

Hey I am thinking of Downloading the game again but I am trying to find pre made mod lists of mods that all work together without much issues with conflicts or other issues preferably one with Adult Mods included if there is any Mod lists for this game out there that where made by someone Could anyone share the location of the public mod list I greatly Appreciate it.

[Lady Aeleanor]

Because everyone's hardware and resources are far different, downloading multiple mod lists is simply asking for headaches. That's why when you're installing mods, you do it one at a time, and you should always go into the game and check to make sure there are no issues for every mod (and any prerequisites that it needs). Then you can keep adding and resolving any problems one at a time. Any seasoned modders will tell you how bad an idea it is to download batch mod lists.

EDIT: Or, perhaps you just meant lists of mods that work together....not batches of mods in a pack? Like Wabbajack? If so, then sure....a mod list of someone's builds that they've tested is obviously a good idea. But, still....the fact that they all worked well for that person, doesn't mean that you won't have issues when you try to duplicate it.

[SailaNamai]

Automated modlist installer: https://www.wabbajack.org/#/

https://www.wabbajack.org/#/modlists/info?machineURL=Licentia

[Pepper Pimienta]

Originally posted by Lady Aeleanor:

Because everyone's hardware and resources are far different, downloading multiple mod lists is simply asking for headaches. That's why when you're installing mods, you do it one at a time, and you should always go into the game and check to make sure there are no issues for every mod (and any prerequisites that it needs). Then you can keep adding and resolving any problems one at a time. Any seasoned modders will tell you how bad an idea it is to download batch mod lists.

EDIT: Or, perhaps you just meant lists of mods that work together....not batches of mods in a pack? Like Wabbajack? If so, then sure....a mod list of someone's builds that they've tested is obviously a good idea. But, still....the fact that they all worked well for that person, doesn't mean that you won't have issues when you try to duplicate it.

Yeah I meant something like that because I use a similar mod list provided by thuggyfied on nexus for fallout 4 where he gives you a list of mods you can pick and choose from that he tested and didn't seem to have any issues on his end.

[reminiscence]

I also recommend Wabbajack and Licentia modpack, having a blast with it.

[Vlad 254]

Here you go Star Dust,

up to date, and with mods that I have tested for thousands of hours. everything you need in one guide:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1986067552

[DestinySlayer96]

Wabbajack is a fantastic tool to find carefully created lists built around stability. If your computer is on the lower-end, I would highly recommend Qwest as a starting point, as it's main goal is to craft a pretty game that's playable for low-end pcs.

If you have more of a beast pc, then there's a bunch of good options for that, too. You'll most likely find something to suit you

[smr1957]

The problem with Wabbajack, is that you are taking it on faith that the lists have actually been fully tested and that the creator of the list actually knows what they are doing and have properly edited everything that needs to be edited in xEdit - which is not always the case (despite what may be said).

Also, not all may be up to date and any mods that may have been updated on Nexus may not work if the author did not take that into account or update their list.

And, should you encounter any issues with the build, the only one who will be able to help is the creator of that build - you will not be able to receive help in the forums, as we just have no way of knowing what changes or edits were made.

That is the main reason most of us with long time experience do not recommend using Wabbajack.

It is usually strongly suggested that a person learn how to mod the game properly on their own. This guide is a good starting point:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1986067552
(currently the best beginner's guide there is)

[Lady Aeleanor]

Originally posted by smr1957:

The problem with Wabbajack, is that you are taking it on faith that the lists have actually been fully tested and that the creator of the list actually knows what they are doing and have properly edited everything that needs to be edited, in xEdit - which is not always the case (despite what may be said).

Also, not all may be up to date and any mods that may have been updated on Nexus may not work if the author did not take that into account or update their list.

And, should you encounter any issues with the build, the only one who will be able to help is the creator of that build - you will not be able to receive help in the forums, as we just have no way of knowing what changes or edits were made.

That is the main reason most of us with long time experience do not recommend using Wabbajack.

It is usually strongly suggested that a person learn how to mod the game properly on their own. This guide is a good starting point:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1986067552
(currently the best beginner's guide there is)

Excellent points Well said, and I agree 100%. That's why earlier in the discussion, I recommended installing mods (and any prerequisites) one at a time, then testing them in the game to resolve any issues or problems, before moving on to install the next one. Look at all the people who self-admittedly install a dozen mods or so, in one fell swoop. Then they go into the game and find half the stuff isn't working properly, and they have no clue what or where the conflicts are. I personally would never use Wabbajack. Easier isn't always better.

[DestinySlayer96]

Okay. As someone who's modded Skyrim for over two years on her own and who's also been using Wabbajack over the past couple months, all I can say is I've been so impressed with the sheer amount of effort the mod list creators on Wabbajack have shown.

I've played two modlists, Qwest and Tinvaak, and in both, I've not crashed once. I've come across little glitches which I reported and they patched. The official Wabbajack authors patch things so tightly you'd never know they needed to be patched, know the creation kit, and have a genius's knowledge of Skyrim modding.

They've put hundreds and hundreds of hours into creating their modlists and I admire them for their dedication to making lists others who aren't as experienced or who've modded for so long on their own can play.

That's all I'll say.

Just don't bash on the *official* Wabbajack List creators, okay? Heck, even some of the unofficial lists are insane.

[SailaNamai]

The problem with Modlists, is that you are taking it on faith that the lists have actually been fully tested and that the creator of the list actually knows what they are doing and have properly edited everything that needs to be edited in xEdit - which is not always the case (despite what may be said).

Also, not all may be up to date and any mods that may have been updated on Nexus may not work if the author did not take that into account or update their list.

And, should you encounter any issues with the build, the only one who will be able to help is the creator of that build - you will not be able to receive help in the forums, as we just have no way of knowing what changes or edits were made.

The main reason to recommend official Wabbajack packs is that they have been tested by the staff in addition to the creator and must reach a high standard of quality.

Wabbajack is strongly recommended because it vastly reduces the chance for human error - your own:

https://www.wabbajack.org/#/modlists/gallery

[DestinySlayer96]

Originally posted by SailaNamai:

The main reason to recommend official Wabbajack packs is that they have been tested by the staff in addition to the creator and must reach a high standard of quality.

Wabbajack is strongly recommended because it vastly reduces the chance for human error - your own:

https://www.wabbajack.org/#/modlists/gallery

Exactly this. Plus, it offers you a base to play with. You can start adding your own mods on top of the modlist and experiment. And, if the list breaks, you can always revert back to the working, stable modlist.

It's like handing someone a stable foundation and telling them to see what they come up with, as apposed to telling them, "Here's a hammer and some nails; make me a house."

I'm not saying that learning on your own isn't a good thing to do--I've modded on my own for two years--but Wabbajack is an amazing tool and shouldn't have others snubbing their noses at it, who may never have used Wabbajack before--or at least not recently.

[Vlad 254]

Originally posted by Star Dust Moonasaku:

Hey I am thinking of Downloading the game again but I am trying to find pre made mod lists of mods that all work together without much issues with conflicts or other issues preferably one with Adult Mods included if there is any Mod lists for this game out there that where made by someone Could anyone share the location of the public mod list I greatly Appreciate it.

Just to make sure you have the info you need to make a decision If you've played before which it seems you have, you may be familiar with the wellknown and highly respected mod author Arthmoor, creator of the USSEP and The Paarthurnax Dilemma (to name but a few). Here's what he has to say regarding mod packs.
https://www.afkmods.com/index.php?/topic/5529-my-view-on-mod-packs/

use what you feel both confident and comfortable with. oh, and there are many guides out there for modding Skyrim SE. I'm partial to mine but you must be comfortable with what ever you choose.

[Lady Aeleanor]

Originally posted by Vlad 254:

ou may be familiar with the wellknown and highly respected mod author Arthmoor, creator of the USSEP and The Paarthurnax Dilemma (to name but a few). Here's what he has to say regarding mod packs.
https://www.afkmods.com/index.php?/topic/5529-my-view-on-mod-packs/

I've read Arthmoore's take on mod packs before, but I read it again. Thanks for that link. He echos everything I've ever been taught about modding (which is small and insignificant in comparison to some of the pros out there) and he's absolutely correct. All the reasons he lists make a hell of a lot of sense. New and even seasoned mod users should read through that and take it all in.

[Marius]

Yeah. Wabbajack seems to be the best thing to do. There's 2 lorefriendly modpacks out there with great quality. and lots of non-lorefriendly modpacks.

[Vlad 254]

Originally posted by SailaNamai:

Also, not all may be up to date and any mods that may have been updated on Nexus may not work if the author did not take that into account or update their list.

Yes, this is much more work for a modpack than simply going in and editing a mod paragraph in a list not to mention in the long term after constantly keeping up with changes. The end user suffers.

Originally posted by SailaNamai:

And, should you encounter any issues with the build, the only one who will be able to help is the creator of that build - you will not be able to receive help in the forums, as we just have no way of knowing what changes or edits were made.

Again, true and not just in the forums, this also includes the actual mod author.

Then there's testing, it's much easier for a user to correct a potential problem if a mod list creator does not test properly.

imho modpacks are going to be a fad especially with Game Pass on the horizon, although neither will be able to use SKSE64 with a mod list it stops there, modpacks not so much.