Original is better than Remaster?

[Markie]

Am i the only one who prefers the original visuals?

I think it has better colors (the greyish style fits a lot more with the world context), textures are sharper (you can really see that in every comparison out there, and there is some proof that Bethesda unecessarily upscaled textures just making them bigger in files and blurrier, which is worse), some effects like snow even look downgraded, and also this "remaster" is supposedly more demanding than the original on pc, so whats the point of this?

Check out the comparison images here, open them in fullscreen on tabs:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-vs-skyrim-remastered

And also check out this video (pay attention specially to the snow effect at 5:40):

https://youtu.be/mczA3LlUyWo

Of course there are some technical improvements, like volumetric lightning, advanced shadows, the implementation of ambient occlusion, but even with all of this it still looks clearly worse for me.

And water, which was intentionally modified as an improvement, also looks worse, the waves and colors, but that's just my opinion.

[sheep from hell]

i agree with the overall to sunny tone of the game, doesnt fit well for a mountain setting. but reality is, skyrim has now many things from the get go you needed a enb before (and in a better quality like godrays or depth of field), so you can change these effects without bigger performance costs. wait for the new version of purity, it changed the complete lighting of the game without the use of a enb, now the mod author has even more possibilities with all the new effects. additional it changed every water (and remade every single waterfall in the game), because the water is now way more complex (f.e. floating around obstacles and in the direction the river goes) he has to remade it from the get go what will result in even better water than the vanilla version of the mod, and that all with next to no performance hit. its a thing of patience, but over time you will have a better looking skyrim with at he same time better performance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGxrBYc7Vu8

[LGG11]

i also prefer the original. i never used enb i never liked that. with original if i wanted better graphics than normal i used texture mods. does the graphics get better after helgen stuff in special edition? ok looking at the videos i give the special edition a more of a shot for me playing it. some editions like that hood are very nice. my problem is im not very picky with graphics.
EDIT: what i should do is have both installed so i can see the difference better and have 2 different mod setups cause im odd like that.

[Markie]

Originally posted by echoside7:

Originally posted by Landstander:

https://youtu.be/T6EjcESYIXk

I see that and raise you a Gopher:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRzLgRvqfDs

Well, looks like it runs a lot better!
With this i think its worth it to go with SE, but i still think the original visuals were better, i kinda feel bad for losing the old color style.
And someone still need to fix the blurry/bigger file textures, what the hell Bethesda. You can see the blurriness even in the video above.

[Main Character Syndrome]

fd

[deathmatch]

Well if you look at the empirical data that supports what 32bit and 64bit are you can definitely say that the game will run far superior and have better allocation of resources than the 32bit version. This enhances overall the potential of a modded Skyrim 64 over it's counter-part.

As bases when you compare the two, there is truely no comparison in that regard. 64 destroys 32. People like gopher have recorded almost double the performance from the original baseline of 32bit Skyrim. That means that the game in sense of FPS stability is 100% better.

So in theory with a baseline double that if not more of the original Skyrim and the theoretically infinite amount of ram useability, the use of 64bit allows for (again theoretically) infinite amounts of mods to be loaded and stability to be almost guarenteed.

The only downsides of this is, not everyone can run 64bit systems well, especially older computers. The only other point is that the modding community kind of has to restart in a sense.

[***]

Visually SE is better it's brighter, while original is darker.

But comprehensively original with game enhancing mods is much better than SE right now.

[Berserk Slayer]

I think there's a lot of placebo effect flying around when playing this game, so you have to be careful of that.

Still, when you're not noticing how much more treey the trees are, or how much faster the wind blows in this version, there are nice differences.

What will be good, is when we can mod the crap out of skyrim: special ed as heavily as we can the normal version

[LGG11]

raise me a gopher? you mean like some sort of creature? i dont get it.

[deathmatch]

Originally posted by ***:

But comprehensively original with game enhancing mods is much better than SE right now.

Yea but your comparing a fully modded Skyrim to a non-modded base. Compare them on equal footing and SE blows it out of the water. I feel that's intellectually disengenuous to say.

Originally posted by LGG11:

raise me a gopher? you mean like some sort of creature? i dont get it.

Nah, the Youtuber. He did a video showing a comparison that documented his FPS gain and overall stability of each one side by side. He concluded that Skyrim64 is far more stable overall than 32 is and in my opinion ever will be.

[sheep from hell]

Originally posted by LGG11:

raise me a gopher? you mean like some sort of creature? i dont get it.

gopher is a mod author and youtuber with mod presentations and instructions especially for bethesda games and the video is from him. basically it means, thats a video from someone who knows what he talking about

[Kameraden]

Only problem I have with Skyrim is that the new water physics can bleep up sometimes. I've had "Squares" form along rivers which the water did not obviously "Flow." lol

[Vorrin]

The snow effect at 5:40 looks like a downgrade to me.

If the videos are accurate to how Skyrim SE currently handles DOF, then it seems to use an odd form of it as this video linked by echoside7 shows at the 12 second mark:

Originally posted by echoside7:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRzLgRvqfDs

In this case, the DOF doesn't seem to have any rhyme or reason because the blacksmith is out of focus and yet the structures surrounding him are not.

[SpawnCap]

It looks a lot better than anything the original Skyrim with mods could run on my system which is an i5 2500/HD7950/8GB. If I had loaded mods in original game to make it look like this it wouldn't have even started and if it did it would get 10FPS.

[Brennan]

evreyone has their opinion i like both ive allready done 50 hourssorry... there both realy good remastered this next bit onece i walked into whiterun and all the textures were just blury as hell i mean like the bugs are fun in all but that? nah... but hey there both good.

[wim1234]

it has way way better engine, runs smooth as a babies bum , looks very very good and that out of the box.....i added some stuff and its even more fun