Heimskr No Longer Rambles on About Talos

[JDzilla]

He just stands there and minds his own business, anyone else notice this?

[[Lethalvriend]]

He did stop, after I killed him... but yea he still does it for me if I leave him alive.

[PanicButton]

Same problem for me. OP, did you change the uGridsToLoad value by any chance?

[JDzilla]

Originally posted by PanicButton:

Same problem for me. OP, did you change the uGridsToLoad value by any chance?

"problem"

[avenger]

I got the same problem. Playing skyrim from beginning (not sure I can use my legendary version savegames though), and didn't change anything in ini files. Vanilla vanilla install. I miss Heimskr babbling every time I went down from Dragonsreach. :(

[Docsprock]

My Heimskr has stopped too. He just kneels or stands near the shrine. This is recent, and I have not changed anything for a month or more.

[avenger]

I think the bug is not related to the player but to the time the visit is made. Seems unnofficial skyrim fixed this a while ago (from the non-special skyrim edition -- not sure this applies to the new Skyrim version!)

Originally posted by UESP Wiki:

If the player first visits Whiterun after 8pm and before 5am, then hangs around outdoors until after sunrise, Heimskr would approach his shrine but not begin preaching due to an error in the story manager. The event was time locked to only start his preaching quest between 5am and 8pm - but this proved to be an unnecessary restriction. Everyone's favorite Talos priest will now preach as intended even if your first visit to the city is in the middle of the night. (Bug #17292)

This was fixed in 2.0.7, somewhere in 2014. :/

[avenger]

Wow! That was a though one!.. Nobody knew how to fix this, and unofficial patch takes out achievements...

By the above text it happens that Heimskr object/npc ID does not get into quest's alias. Oh my it was awesome when it suddenly worked! haha...

Here are the steps to fix it:

1. open console with quote key
   
2. select heimskr as the ref target
   PickRefById 1a682
   (or just prid 1a682)
   
3. set quest scope to the affected quest "DialogWhiterunHeimskrPreachingScene":
   SetConsoleScopeQuest 3a15a
   (or just ssq 3a15a
   
4. force heimskr id into the quest's 'Heimskr' alias
   ForceRefIntoAlias Heimskr
   
5. close console

Voila, he catches up back at preaching annoying as alwasy! :P

[Belanos]

It has nothing to do with the SE, I've seen it happen in the original game as well. The next time you start a new game he most likely will be his old vocal self again.

[PanicButton]

Originally posted by avenger:

Wow! That was a though one!.. Nobody knew how to fix this, and unofficial patch takes out achievements...

By the above text it happens that Heimskr object/npc ID does not get into quest's alias. Oh my it was awesome when it suddenly worked! haha...

Here are the steps to fix it:

1. open console with quote key
   
2. select heimskr as the ref target
   PickRefById 1a682
   (or just prid 1a682)
   
3. set quest scope to the affected quest "DialogWhiterunHeimskrPreachingScene":
   SetConsoleScopeQuest 3a15a
   (or just ssq 3a15a
   
4. force heimskr id into the quest's 'Heimskr' alias
   ForceRefIntoAlias Heimskr
   
5. close console

Voila, he catches up back at preaching annoying as alwasy! :P

Can anyone confirm this?

[avenger]

This bug happens if you get first in Whiterun at a time Heimskr is sleeping, so the quest does not get Heimskr 'refid' assigned to the quest. Yes, this happened in non-SE, not sure if this adds anything to the issue.

Alright, and the steps works for me, can't say it will work for everyone out there. The quest searches for Heimskr 'refid' in whiterun by exactname("Heimskr"). If he's put on his house sleeping, he's not in the location so nothing gets bound at the time the quest is instantiated (yes, programming-wise).

[avenger]

I put a guard to preach using this, he ran in position, raised hands, but no voice, as he had a different voice source from Heimskr. :P

[Red Bat]

I had this happen to me on the PS4 version after he was a subject of a companions radiant rescue quest.

[PanicButton]

I can confirm that avenger's fix works!!! Heimskr is rambling again....it's like music to my ears. :D

[𝐊𝐞𝐧𝐰𝐚𝐲 ྾]

Originally posted by avenger:

Wow! That was a though one!.. Nobody knew how to fix this, and unofficial patch takes out achievements...

By the above text it happens that Heimskr object/npc ID does not get into quest's alias. Oh my it was awesome when it suddenly worked! haha...

Here are the steps to fix it:

1. open console with quote key
   
2. select heimskr as the ref target
   PickRefById 1a682
   (or just prid 1a682)
   
3. set quest scope to the affected quest "DialogWhiterunHeimskrPreachingScene":
   SetConsoleScopeQuest 3a15a
   (or just ssq 3a15a
   
4. force heimskr id into the quest's 'Heimskr' alias
   ForceRefIntoAlias Heimskr
   
5. close console

Voila, he catches up back at preaching annoying as alwasy! :P

It worked, i think must to say THANKS. :)

[PanicButton]

Praise Talos! :D