How to better my elven warhammer?

[rickkeman]

So I currently have the Elven warhammer (superior) equipped. (I upgraded it yesterday.) Now that I ranked up I spent the upgrade perk point on elven smithing, but I can't make the warhammer even better, any of you perhaps know what I did wrong? Thanks in advance!

[Doggy Friend]

Is it enchanted?
If so, a perk for improving enchanted weapons and armor is required.

[Valden21]

It sounds like your Smithing skill isn't improved enough. The next step up in quality from Superior is Exquisite, which unlocks at differing skill levels depending on whether you have the correct perk for what you're trying to upgrade. You also need the right materials. So if you can't upgrade your elven warhammer past Superior, you need to check if your Smithing skill is at least level 40, and if you have Refined Moonstone Ingots. If the warhammer is enchanted, you also need the "Arcane Smithing" perk, which is available at Smithing level 60.

[rickkeman]

Originally posted by Valden21:

It sounds like your Smithing skill isn't improved enough. The next step up in quality from Superior is Exquisite, which unlocks at differing skill levels depending on whether you have the correct perk for what you're trying to upgrade. You also need the right materials. So if you can't upgrade your elven warhammer past Superior, you need to check if your Smithing skill is at least level 40, and if you have Refined Moonstone Ingots. If the warhammer is enchanted, you also need the "Arcane Smithing" perk, which is available at Smithing level 60.

Yeah so its not enchanted and I did have the moonstone ingots in my inventory though it seems that my smithing skill is only level 35. So that should be at 40 right?

[SpeedFreak1972]

As Valden said the improvement levels come available with the smithing levels if I remember well legendary = level 80 and if you have arcane blacksmith you can improve enchanted weapons .... that said some perk mods change things.

[every1hasnames]

Originally posted by rickkeman:

Originally posted by Valden21:

It sounds like your Smithing skill isn't improved enough. The next step up in quality from Superior is Exquisite, which unlocks at differing skill levels depending on whether you have the correct perk for what you're trying to upgrade. You also need the right materials. So if you can't upgrade your elven warhammer past Superior, you need to check if your Smithing skill is at least level 40, and if you have Refined Moonstone Ingots. If the warhammer is enchanted, you also need the "Arcane Smithing" perk, which is available at Smithing level 60.

Yeah so its not enchanted and I did have the moonstone ingots in my inventory though it seems that my smithing skill is only level 35. So that should be at 40 right?

this may help its a table explaining what smithing level you need for the different upgrades. With and without perks.

upgrade level----- smithing level without perks-----smithing level with perks
fine ---------------14---------------------------------14
superior-----------31---------------------------------22
exquisite----------65---------------------------------40
flawless-----------100--------------------------------57
epic---------------134--------------------------------74
legendary---------168--------------------------------91




if you rely on solely the smithing level without perks as you can see your smithing level has to be significantly higher then without the perks. So much so that without the perks to get all the way to the higher levels you would need equipment with enchants that raise smithing level.


With the perks all you need is level 91 to upgrade to legendary.


To go from superior to the next level exquisite you either need to raise smithing to level 65 without any perks. Or raise smithing to 40 with perks.

[rickkeman]

Originally posted by every1hasnames:

Originally posted by rickkeman:

Yeah so its not enchanted and I did have the moonstone ingots in my inventory though it seems that my smithing skill is only level 35. So that should be at 40 right?

this may help its a table explaining what smithing level you need for the different upgrades. With and without perks.

upgrade level----- smithing level without perks-----smithing level with perks
fine ---------------14---------------------------------14
superior-----------31---------------------------------22
exquisite----------65---------------------------------40
flawless-----------100--------------------------------57
epic---------------134--------------------------------74
legendary---------168--------------------------------91




if you rely on solely the smithing level without perks as you can see your smithing level has to be significantly higher then without the perks. So much so that without the perks to get all the way to the higher levels you would need equipment with enchants that raise smithing level.


With the perks all you need is level 91 to get legendary.


To go from superior to the next level you either need to raise smithing to level 65 without any perks. Or raise smithing to 40 with perks.


So yes you need to get smithing to level 40.

Thanks, i see how it is now!

[SpeedFreak1972]

Apparently I have something that alters the levels lol

[CrayZcarts]

Originally posted by rickkeman:

So I currently have the Elven warhammer (superior) equipped. (I upgraded it yesterday.) Now that I ranked up I spent the upgrade perk point on elven smithing, but I can't make the warhammer even better, any of you perhaps know what I did wrong? Thanks in advance!

The smithing perks like elven smithing are just so you can make those kind of weapons.

[Ihateeverybody]

Originally posted by CrayZcarts:

Originally posted by rickkeman:

So I currently have the Elven warhammer (superior) equipped. (I upgraded it yesterday.) Now that I ranked up I spent the upgrade perk point on elven smithing, but I can't make the warhammer even better, any of you perhaps know what I did wrong? Thanks in advance!

The smithing perks like elven smithing are just so you can make those kind of weapons.

Not true. All Material perks also increase the amount you can upgrade them.

"Can create Elven armor and weapons at forges, and improve them twice as much."

[CrayZcarts]

Originally posted by Ihateeverybody:

Originally posted by CrayZcarts:

The smithing perks like elven smithing are just so you can make those kind of weapons.

Not true. All Material perks also increase the amount you can upgrade them.

"Can create Elven armor and weapons at forges, and improve them twice as much."

Oops, I guess my knowledge is fading more than i thought.

[rickkeman]

Originally posted by every1hasnames:

Originally posted by rickkeman:

Yeah so its not enchanted and I did have the moonstone ingots in my inventory though it seems that my smithing skill is only level 35. So that should be at 40 right?

this may help its a table explaining what smithing level you need for the different upgrades. With and without perks.

upgrade level----- smithing level without perks-----smithing level with perks
fine ---------------14---------------------------------14
superior-----------31---------------------------------22
exquisite----------65---------------------------------40
flawless-----------100--------------------------------57
epic---------------134--------------------------------74
legendary---------168--------------------------------91




if you rely on solely the smithing level without perks as you can see your smithing level has to be significantly higher then without the perks. So much so that without the perks to get all the way to the higher levels you would need equipment with enchants that raise smithing level.


With the perks all you need is level 91 to upgrade to legendary.


To go from superior to the next level exquisite you either need to raise smithing to level 65 without any perks. Or raise smithing to 40 with perks.

So I have the elven smithing perk and I am smiting level 45 but I still can't upgrade the elven weapons to exquisite, any clue on the matter?

[Valden21]

Is the warhammer in question enchanted? What happens when you use the grindstone? Is the warhammer in the list, but greyed-out?

[Bored Peon]

Originally posted by rickkeman:

Originally posted by every1hasnames:

this may help its a table explaining what smithing level you need for the different upgrades. With and without perks.

upgrade level----- smithing level without perks-----smithing level with perks
fine ---------------14---------------------------------14
superior-----------31---------------------------------22
exquisite----------65---------------------------------40
flawless-----------100--------------------------------57
epic---------------134--------------------------------74
legendary---------168--------------------------------91




if you rely on solely the smithing level without perks as you can see your smithing level has to be significantly higher then without the perks. So much so that without the perks to get all the way to the higher levels you would need equipment with enchants that raise smithing level.


With the perks all you need is level 91 to upgrade to legendary.


To go from superior to the next level exquisite you either need to raise smithing to level 65 without any perks. Or raise smithing to 40 with perks.

So I have the elven smithing perk and I am smiting level 45 but I still can't upgrade the elven weapons to exquisite, any clue on the matter?

Not sure why because those numbers are what is written on the wiki. Unless the wiki is wrong for some reason....

Sorry, but have to ask the following questions:
1. Do you have the refined moonstone on you? (I have done this mistake)
2. Is the weapon enchanted and do you have the required Arcane Smithing?
3. Do you have any mods affecting crafting?
4. Do you have any mods affecting elven swords that changed their upgrade class?

In the meantime you could just try this:

Go mix yourself a smithing potion (Glowing Mushroom and Blisterwort) and that should cover the difference? This will not work if you do not have Arcane Smithing if it is required.

Glowing Mushrooms can be found in the Bleak Barrows and Blisterwort can be bought at Riverwood Inn. Throw at least 1 of each in planter. Unlike Enchanting potions a single blacksmith potions can be used to upgrade a bunch of items.

[Ihateeverybody]

Actually if you are fast enough you can upgrade 2 items with an enchanting potion. But yeah, smithing potions give you more bang for the buck so to speak. I am in no way endorsing sex with Deer.

[rickkeman]

Originally posted by Bored Peon:

Originally posted by rickkeman:

So I have the elven smithing perk and I am smiting level 45 but I still can't upgrade the elven weapons to exquisite, any clue on the matter?

Not sure why because those numbers are what is written on the wiki. Unless the wiki is wrong for some reason....

Sorry, but have to ask the following questions:
1. Do you have the refined moonstone on you? (I have done this mistake)
2. Is the weapon enchanted and do you have the required Arcane Smithing?
3. Do you have any mods affecting crafting?
4. Do you have any mods affecting elven swords that changed their upgrade class?

In the meantime you could just try this:

Go mix yourself a smithing potion (Glowing Mushroom and Blisterwort) and that should cover the difference? This will not work if you do not have Arcane Smithing if it is required.

Glowing Mushrooms can be found in the Bleak Barrows and Blisterwort can be bought at Riverwood Inn. Throw at least 1 of each in planter. Unlike Enchanting potions a single blacksmith potions can be used to upgrade a bunch of items.

I don't have any mods installed and when I attempted to improve it, I had the refined moonstone with me. It said that my level wasn't high enough. I can try the blacksmithing potion next time I play the game so thanks for that! Ps: the elven weapons don't have any enchantments on them.