The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Special Edition

The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Special Edition

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ƬᗩԲԲվ Mar 23, 2021 @ 3:55am
After exiting Skyrim or a CTD I cannot load saves again until I restart PC.
Basically everything runs perfectly fine until Skyrim exits whether from manually closing the game or a random CTD . Then upon restarting Skyrim I cannot load my saves again. Every attempt to load a save game after that first crash or exit results in immediate CTD. I do not believe its a mod issue or a save game issue since simply restarting my PC fixes the problem. I'm not running out of RAM either.

However having to reboot my entire PC to get saves loading again is extremely inconvenient so I'd like to get to the bottom of this.

I've looked for a while trying to figure out this issue. One thread I found sounded like my exact issue. The OP said a graphic driver setting was incompatible with ENB. That thread was years old and they never gave any more details as to what fixed their problem.

Any help is appreciated.
Last edited by ƬᗩԲԲվ; Mar 23, 2021 @ 3:57am
Originally posted by SailaNamai:
That is indeed strange. Have you already tested loading your save, exiting the game, starting it up again and then creating a new game? From what you have written it sounds like it would also crash but still would be good to confirm. Still any testing should be done with new games, as it narrows possible causes.

You might test if instead of restarting, you can log out of windows and then back in. That would at least help a litte and speed up the testing process.

ENB builds it's shaders on application startup. These get then handed to the gpu driver for processing. If the crash occurs due to enb shaders and those somehow linger they might be cleared on reboot. To test that you would have to completely disable the enb. However from my understanding the crash should occur instantly if the shaders are to blame.

Does the same still occur when you run the skse launcher manually (not from your modmanager) so it only loads the base game (with/without enb)? This would solidify that mods are not at fault.

You should also exclude the whole skyrim folder from your antivirus, as well as the mod manager folder. Some of the processes might be shown as false positives. Though again, that should manifest immediatly and not after every crash.

I suppose it could be a .net failure. For versions <5.xx (which skyrim uses if present) you can use microsofts .net repair tool to check for (common) errors:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=30135
It doesn't list win10 as supported os, but i can't test if it will work with win10 right now.
edit: test twice please. Once before running skyrim, once after exiting.
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SailaNamai Mar 23, 2021 @ 5:33am 
That is indeed strange. Have you already tested loading your save, exiting the game, starting it up again and then creating a new game? From what you have written it sounds like it would also crash but still would be good to confirm. Still any testing should be done with new games, as it narrows possible causes.

You might test if instead of restarting, you can log out of windows and then back in. That would at least help a litte and speed up the testing process.

ENB builds it's shaders on application startup. These get then handed to the gpu driver for processing. If the crash occurs due to enb shaders and those somehow linger they might be cleared on reboot. To test that you would have to completely disable the enb. However from my understanding the crash should occur instantly if the shaders are to blame.

Does the same still occur when you run the skse launcher manually (not from your modmanager) so it only loads the base game (with/without enb)? This would solidify that mods are not at fault.

You should also exclude the whole skyrim folder from your antivirus, as well as the mod manager folder. Some of the processes might be shown as false positives. Though again, that should manifest immediatly and not after every crash.

I suppose it could be a .net failure. For versions <5.xx (which skyrim uses if present) you can use microsofts .net repair tool to check for (common) errors:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=30135
It doesn't list win10 as supported os, but i can't test if it will work with win10 right now.
edit: test twice please. Once before running skyrim, once after exiting.
Last edited by SailaNamai; Mar 23, 2021 @ 5:39am
ƬᗩԲԲվ Mar 23, 2021 @ 7:11am 
Originally posted by SailaNamai:
That is indeed strange. Have you already tested loading your save, exiting the game, starting it up again and then creating a new game? From what you have written it sounds like it would also crash but still would be good to confirm. Still any testing should be done with new games, as it narrows possible causes.

You might test if instead of restarting, you can log out of windows and then back in. That would at least help a litte and speed up the testing process.

ENB builds it's shaders on application startup. These get then handed to the gpu driver for processing. If the crash occurs due to enb shaders and those somehow linger they might be cleared on reboot. To test that you would have to completely disable the enb. However from my understanding the crash should occur instantly if the shaders are to blame.

Does the same still occur when you run the skse launcher manually (not from your modmanager) so it only loads the base game (with/without enb)? This would solidify that mods are not at fault.

You should also exclude the whole skyrim folder from your antivirus, as well as the mod manager folder. Some of the processes might be shown as false positives. Though again, that should manifest immediatly and not after every crash.

I suppose it could be a .net failure. For versions <5.xx (which skyrim uses if present) you can use microsofts .net repair tool to check for (common) errors:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=30135
It doesn't list win10 as supported os, but i can't test if it will work with win10 right now.
edit: test twice please. Once before running skyrim, once after exiting.

Thank you for the very thorough response.

I tested a new game and it ended up doing the same thing. Then I thought what the heck I'll check to see if my .net had any issues so I ran that tool and it fixed some things.

Then I tried an un-modded game with no ENB and had no issues. After this I was starting to sweat that it could be mods after all.

But after testing my fully modded game with ENB again it loaded the saves! I was able to load saves multiple times after exiting. So oddly enough I think .net may have been the issue or at least contributed to it.

I really do appreciate the help. I would have never thought to check that tool.
SailaNamai Mar 23, 2021 @ 9:05am 
Glad it worked out!
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