Skyrim SE CTD Every 15 Minutes + Additional Issue

[GojiraTX]

Cliffnotes version is that i thought it was a mod problem but i went through that whole rigamaroll and that wasnt the problem. So then i discovered the thing about the Touch Screen and Handwriting service for Win10 that has some fundamental incompatibility with Skyrim SE so i followed the process of disabling that and i have no idea if that fixed the problem like it does for most everyone else because disabling that service seems to have created a new problem: first the game will minimize itself while loading in from the launcher, and clicking on the game in the taskbar to bring it back up causes a brief black screen before re-minimizing itself. This will happen 3-4 more times until eventually the black screen will lead to a horribly bugged out menu screen where there seems to be two menus, one normal(ish) size with all the menu options and a second, much smaller copy of the menu in the top left of the screen which only has the dragon and no menu options at all. As for the "main" menu, moving the mouse around leaves behind copies of the mouse icon all over the menu like you would see in those old WinXP errors. And they dont go away. Now, all the menu options still appear to be functional, but at this point im terrified of actually trying to load into a save or start a new game in this state. I'm completely at my wits end with this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. The well-established fix for my first problem should not be creating yet another problem. And this seems entirely unique to me as i cannot find anything on the internet from anyone else where this fix causes this problem. Any help at all would be absolutely appreciated because if i cant get this fixed, im just going to permanently uninstall Skyrim SE and never touch it again.

[SailaNamai]

For the additional issue. I get something similar when streaming skyrim via steam and alt+enter clears it up. Maybe that can work for you as well.
When testing your mods you did the testing on a new save or your current one? Because you can only reliably test in a new game.

[GojiraTX]

引用自 SailaNamai：

For the additional issue. I get something similar when streaming skyrim via steam and alt+enter clears it up. Maybe that can work for you as well.
When testing your mods you did the testing on a new save or your current one? Because you can only reliably test in a new game.

I admit that I only tested on the current save, but I'm absolutely certain that all of my mods are up to date and are compatible with eachother. I'll try out the alt+enter thing soon. I'm in the process of reinstalling Skyrim SE to see if that does anything.

[GojiraTX]

引用自 GojiraTX：

引用自 SailaNamai：

For the additional issue. I get something similar when streaming skyrim via steam and alt+enter clears it up. Maybe that can work for you as well.
When testing your mods you did the testing on a new save or your current one? Because you can only reliably test in a new game.

I admit that I only tested on the current save, but I'm absolutely certain that all of my mods are up to date and are compatible with eachother. I'll try out the alt+enter thing soon. I'm in the process of reinstalling Skyrim SE to see if that does anything.

Yea neither reinstalling or alt+enter helped at all. I don't know what to do.

[lizrdfishr]

Did you perform a full clean install?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g67CnHD1wvY

Anything less will not remove mods.

[SailaNamai]

引用自 lizrdfishr：

Did you perform a full clean install?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g67CnHD1wvY

Anything less will not remove mods.

Second this. Then start with a guide to setup the essentials right.

[lizrdfishr]

引用自 SailaNamai：

Second this. Then start with a guide to setup the essentials right.

Per SailaNamai a guide will help. This one is up to date and the author helps out here in our forums.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/489830/discussions/0/2828702372997628701/

[GojiraTX]

引用自 lizrdfishr：

引用自 SailaNamai：

Second this. Then start with a guide to setup the essentials right.

Per SailaNamai a guide will help. This one is up to date and the author helps out here in our forums.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/489830/discussions/0/2828702372997628701/

this is so much more complicated than i could have imagined. im retarded when it comes to the inner workings of computers and i dont remember it being this much work before. im starting to wonder if im even smart enough to be modding Skyrim at all and just suffer with the base game instead.

[SailaNamai]

引用自 GojiraTX：

this is so much more complicated than i could have imagined. im retarded when it comes to the inner workings of computers and i dont remember it being this much work before. im starting to wonder if im even smart enough to be modding Skyrim at all and just suffer with the base game instead.

Modding is 50% reading and 50% failing forward. If you are willing to learn this forum is a good place to do so. Start small, think of how you want the game to be and what would be the least intrusive way to achieve that. In time who knows? For some of us modding is more fun than playing.

Also this is 2021 and there is an automated installer for modlists. You can download lists with 100s of mods. For the best experience it requires a nexus pro account. Check it out here:
https://www.wabbajack.org/#/modlists/gallery
With these modlists you are locked into the authors vision of how the game should be, because you really shouldn't change anything unless you know exactly what you are doing. If one resonates with you, give it a go.

[lizrdfishr]

It's a plate of mashed potatoes. How big a plate is determined by your eyes.

Take it one bite at a time.

Skyrim is the best game ever. Of course opinions vary, but here we are 10 years in with 30k players at a time. But Skyrim wasn't made to run on Windows 10 in 2021.

The community has come together to put together some patches that make Skyrim run better. If you install these, your game should run pretty well. These patches will not change the appearance of anything or make anyone nude or anything like that. These just make Skyrim a better experience.

First, do the clean install. Don't let Steam install Skyrim on a One Drive managed drive.

Go to Nexus and get a free account. Download and install Vortex. It's free.

Once you have Vortex installed, there is a video called Introduction Video by a guy named Gopher. He has a series of short videos that explain how to use Vortex to do everything you want. Watch them all including the one about SKSE64.

Then do what Gopher says to do. Install the following mods from Nexus.
SKSE64
Address Library
USSEP
Engine Fixes

It is not complicated. It does take time. Then again, Skyrim is a big game. It took me a weekend to completely set up (I'm running 96 mods today) but I have over 1000 hours in game since March or so of 2020.

Lastly, there is a TON of help on this forum from guys and gals who know this WAY better than me. If you get stuck, ask.

Skyrim isn't a destination. It's a journey. It's supposed to be bumpy. Enjoy the ride.

[Uncle64]

Sry I can read that text wall.

[smr1957]

Check these threads - they are for original Slyrim, for FO4, and for Assassin's Creed, but are worth checking anyway:
Crash every 15 minute problem referred to in numerous threads:
1) http://steamcommunity.com/app/72850/discussions/0/341537388325925946/

a. These threads were referred to as a solution for the problem of crashing every 15 minutes:
-- https://steamcommunity.com/app/377160/discussions/0/496880503081108055
-- https://steamcommunity.com/app/311560/discussions/0/528398719804196382/

When you have a CTD that is so regularly time linked, it is almost always a background program that is running.

[GojiraTX]

引用自 SailaNamai：

引用自 GojiraTX：

this is so much more complicated than i could have imagined. im retarded when it comes to the inner workings of computers and i dont remember it being this much work before. im starting to wonder if im even smart enough to be modding Skyrim at all and just suffer with the base game instead.

Modding is 50% reading and 50% failing forward. If you are willing to learn this forum is a good place to do so. Start small, think of how you want the game to be and what would be the least intrusive way to achieve that. In time who knows? For some of us modding is more fun than playing.

Also this is 2021 and there is an automated installer for modlists. You can download lists with 100s of mods. For the best experience it requires a nexus pro account. Check it out here:
https://www.wabbajack.org/#/modlists/gallery
With these modlists you are locked into the authors vision of how the game should be, because you really shouldn't change anything unless you know exactly what you are doing. If one resonates with you, give it a go.

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, the Keizaal modlist looks like everything i could ever ask for an hundreds of things more besides, but it doesn't have The Forgotten City mod or Falskaar, and i would love to have those mods too. But I suppose that, since I dont know exactly what im doing, adding those is completely off the table, huh?

Also, thank you so much for your help. Im so glad this community isnt all "haha get ♥♥♥♥♥♥ nerd" like some others can be.

Is the Nexus Pro account necessary would you say? You said it would offer the best experience. Are you speaking just in terms of download and install speed?

[SailaNamai]

Without the pro account download speeds will be limited, but most important you will have to click yes for every download. This means you kind of have to stay at your pc during installation. So yeah, i wouldn't do it without the premium account. Nexus is one of my favourite sites so i never regretted a single cent spent there.

Completely off the table? No. You can always add them and just see what happens, but it probably won't be plug and play. And you will not find help from the modlists author or here (it just is too much to check out).

Did you check out the links smr posted? I took 15 minutes for an approximation.

[smr1957]

If you are new to modding SSE (and it seems you might be, see these;

This guide first (currently the best beginner's guide there is):
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1986067552

And for longer, more detailed explanations:
Skyrim SE: Guides and Resources (PINNED TOPIC) by Ilja
http://steamcommunity.com/app/489830/discussions/0/340412122413706606/
VERY IMPORTANT if you wish to successfully mod your game

Also, refer to this (PINNED TOPIC) resource for links to guides, tutorials, vids,and other important information:
HELPFUL LINKS AND REFERENCES
https://steamcommunity.com/app/489830/discussions/0/2828702372997628701/

And, it is absolutely essential that you install:
Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch - https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/266
For complete information regarding the Patch, see (PINNED TOPIC) Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch (USSEP) - A Must Have = https://steamcommunity.com/app/489830/discussions/0/1741090847739345133/

Finally, start small - just add a few mods at a time, test, and then play for a while to ensure there are no issues - don't fall into the trap of adding a bunch of mods and then trying to play. And, very important!!! For most mods, once they are added, they cannot be removed and play continued on that save - you have to roll back to a save made before that removed/disabled mod was installed, or start a new game - absolutely no ifs, ands, or buts about it. So make sure you make a manual save before adding anything, and save often (manually) while playing, so you can roll back to a previous save if necessary. (For why you cannot remove/disable mods midplaythrough, see: You CANNOT Remove Mods Mid-Playthrough - http://steamcommunity.com/app/489830/discussions/0/1520386297681801135/ )

If you have any questions, or are unsure of something, just ask in the forum first - it is easier to prevent a problem than it is to fix one - especially where Skyrim is concerned.

ONE MORE THING: It can be confusing to determine whom to listen to on these forums, especially for someone new. In the pinned topic Helpful Links and References, see Section 6, Miscellaneous - Reliable Forum Regulars, for a list and explanation.

Good luck and have fun!

One final note.
While some may recommend wabbajack many of us here recommend against using it, as the only person who can help, is the person who put that build together - you are entirely dependent upon them and the knowledge that they may - or may not - have. It is very much a use at own risk - you still need to know the fundamentals of modding and realize that Wabbajack is use at your own risk. Also, as you posted, since it is someone else's work, it may not have the things you wish - and, if you want to add things, since it is someone else's work, and there is no knowing what edits they made to records, adding something would require you to check to ensure that there are no conflicts and that you are not breaking anything - so, once again, you need to know at least how to use xEdit to check for and reconcile conflicts. Basically, the best policy is NOT to make any changes to Wabbajack - it is a complete package that should not be changed, with (ideally) all edits already in place. Frankly, though, I personally would not trust any of them - you are better off making your own build, learning how to do it properly, and starting small - because if you insist upon creating some 2 or 3 or even 4 hundred mod build, again, the only advice we can really give is to start over and make a smaller build.

[alexander_dougherty]

引用自 GojiraTX：

Cliffnotes version is<snip>

Sorry but that is not a cliff note version.

I have never disabled the touchscreen or handwriting functions, but have you tried googling "Skyrim SE disabling Touch screen"?
https://steamcommunity.com/app/489830/discussions/0/1693795812288705319/