why dose the bow aim of to the left in first person view, is it from modding or a SSE bug

[ronbender378]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2022478563

Any help i could get would be most helpful.

[ronbender378]

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[Chef]

The load order seems sorted, I can't see anything thats obviously out of place. And I only see one mod that may have anything at all to do with archery
57 39 DSerArcheryGameplayOverhaul.esp
So I'm not sure whats going on.

[ronbender378]

i added the archery overhaul because i thought it might fix the problem

[Mephitic]

Aim Fix and Proper Aim seem like probable culprits. I don't have them so I can't load them in xEdit but from the descriptions they likely conflict. Also, Aim Fix has a rather extensive configuration menu - check the values.

Do you have any of the alternative weapon position features of XPMSE enabled?

Also - a couple of diagnostic questions:
Does this happen the same way with all types of bows?
Does the crouch/sneak aiming work correctly?

[ronbender378]

the hunting, imperial,glass and daedric bow all do the same animation, off to the left.
Crouching has no effect as well.

[smr1957]

Sometimes you can get this when there are a lot of scripts running, as well. So, does it happen all the time, or does sometimes it appear properly. If it always happens and never appears correctly, than it is probably safe to say it is not an issue with scripts needing to finish.

[★Kelvy★]

No XPMSE needs to be reloaded, click to have CBP and none to the rest and see if it changes.

[Avrie]

57 39 DSerArcheryGameplayOverhaul.esp
82 52 Proper Aiming.esp

Actually you're all swinging after the bell for once LOL

@ronbender, get rid of proper aiming completely, it was specifically designed to correct the first person issues caused by mods like joy of Perspective. You don't have any first person camera mods installed so the "correction" is in fact causing the problem but in the other direction.

Install Arrow and bolt tweaks instead, choose your speed and penetration from the installer and remember that you need to edit the combat section of the Skyrim.ini to reflect the gravity. These are the default recommended settings, but if you choose very fast arrows they will hit high so reduce the tilt angle ... IE: for 100% faster arrows use .3 or .5 instead of .7

[Combat]
f1PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.7
f3PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.7
f1PBoltTiltUpAngle=0.7
f3PBoltTiltUpAngle=0.7

ABT SE - Arrows and Bolts Tweaks Special Edition
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/4683

FYI... Arrow and bolt tweaks is compatible with archery gameplay overhaul and even recommended by the author. You should be fine after that. let us know if you need help doing the edits.

Good hunting

Edit ... Also remember you installed a mod that alters the bow animations ... you do need to install and run FNIS or you're going to have issues as well. we can help you with that also if you have problems.. that can be a little tricky for new modders.

[ronbender378]

i got rid of aim fix and proper aiming and removed physics option from XPMSE and the bow seems to be working right. i just don't know what was the actual fix.


as for fnis i run it no mater what mod i add\remove just in case

[Avrie]

OOPs ... I missed Aim fix (Good catch Meph)

Have you installed SKSE64 and SkyUI? That mod also alters the combat settings and is MCM driven. You can't make any changes if you can't get into the MCM

It's really not required for basic game play, and you will have to make adjustments to get it to work correctly with other mods that alter those same settings. As a scripted FE mod that could be a problem. I'd remove that as well and keep it simple until you're a little more comfortable modding. REMEMBER!!! that is a scripted mod and you will need to start a new game or it will mess up your current save files.

[Avrie]

You got rid of the correct two ... arrow and bolt tweaks will work well with the archery gameplay overhaul ... if you need a little help tweaking the settings let us know, it's really simple once you know what to do.

BTW ... I made the assumption that you're fairly new to modding based on you saying you never posted a screen shot before on my thread, I didn't mean it to be insulting, I just made an assumption.

[ronbender378]

no worries its all good, iv played for 20 minutes and all seems fine thank for helping narrow down the list of mods to look at.

[The Cheese Wizard]

I know this is an old thread but I had this exact issue and the problem was the Joy of Perspective patch in the XP32 Skeleton installation. Removing the JOP patch in the installation fixed this issue for me.

[Zack Revenant]

I also have the issue I honestly find it funny how it looks normal in TPP, but for FPP it looks like my character is trying to pull off a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ trickshot XD