Survival Mode Missing Thirst

[hallow, dmitri!]

Just getting back into some Skyrim SKSE after a long break. I have just gotten the full survival/backpack paid content for the first time plus installed this survival mode patch collection:

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/19154?tab=description

My question is how can I add thirst to it? I tried searching for just a "thirst" mod but could not find one. Separate status bars for hunger/thirst/sleep would also be good to have if possible.

[danconnors]

There is no lack of water in the game. No matter where you are you are never more than half a mile away from clean water. A quarter pound water bottle capable of holding a quart of water would be plenty for any realistic game.

As I've just concluded in my thread Skyrim survival is a very badly done waste of time. I've developed a character to level 45 in the unmodded version, and I feel it has been a complete waste of time and money.

[hallow, dmitri!]

I'm enjoying the survival mode quite a bit actually. As for water I may have to try the iNeed Continued mod and see how it plays with the survival mode. But sorry, I just can't agree with you there.

[hallow, dmitri!]

That's why there are different mods for different people, many of which themselves have varying options. So what's ridiculous to some can be fun to others. Again, I must disagree, but to each their own.

[GuyFawx]

If your parched it should make dragon shouts sometimes fail from the cotton mouth

[Halliwax]

I like survival mode too, but come on, it's not The Long Dark and it's not going to be. Thirst would not add anything that hunger doesn't do already.

[hallow, dmitri!]

Originally posted by Halliwax:

I like survival mode too, but come on, it's not The Long Dark and it's not going to be. Thirst would not add anything that hunger doesn't do already.

What does TLD have anything to do with it? And yes it would add something to it. It would add an extra bar that I can monitor and refill. Using water-skins filled from water sources like rivers and wells, insofar as iNeeds handles it anyway.

[Halliwax]

I'm holding TLD up as the gold standard of a survival game and contrasting it with what a non-survival game that introduces some survival elements can hope to do. "An extra bar to monitor" is not something of any value in itself. If it was managed differently than hunger, that would be one thing, but functionally it would be very similar.

As it is, the three survival needs of food, sleep, and heat are nourished in totally different ways and each tied to a different core stat. Introducing thirst wouldn't do anything new really and it would clash with the existing symmetry of it.

[hallow, dmitri!]

I'm playing modded Skyrim. The point of that is to get it how you want. The point of TLD is play it how they want. What's not to understand here? You play it your way. I'll play it mine.

[Deklend]

Originally posted by udUbdaWgz:

Having used iNeeds for so long and switching over to Yash2 I realized how utterly ridiculous the “thirst” mechanic is.

Yash2 does a great job in addressing the issue and making it meaningful: npcs are given “thirst” bonuses.

If you fail to eat/drink youll be at a slight “disadvantage”

It's fine that's how you wish to immerse yourself, but real talk, it's not a survival mechanic if it's just a "slight disadvantage". What exactly are you surviving then? Just call it what it is, an immersion addition, not a survival addition.

[Bored Peon]

Originally posted by Khillian MacDille:

Just call it what it is, an immersion addition, not a survival addition.

I have to go with that for eating and drinking. I rarely ever had to go get food myself via hunting or farming because there was always plenty laying around as loot or just buy meals from the taverns.

Even at the worst you could still function without much of a penalty after being hungry because the only penalty was your stamina. So you cna not power attack, block, or sprint whoop te do that got nothing to do with a sneak attack out of stealth or a fireball or better yet kill the mob quickly in melee and you never have to power attack or block more than once.

[Vlad 254]

Originally posted by Bored Peon:

Originally posted by Khillian MacDille:

Just call it what it is, an immersion addition, not a survival addition.

I have to go with that for eating and drinking. I rarely ever had to go get food myself via hunting or farming because there was always plenty laying around as loot or just buy meals from the taverns.

This is true but there's something to be said for hunting, skinning etc, which I have long enjoyed in this game, even before mods (well hunting anyway). Like others have said it's all about your game your way.

[BCFreeman]

Originally posted by Guy Fawx:

If your parched it should make dragon shouts sometimes fail from the cotton mouth

LOL, that spilled my coffee