[SOLVED] Game refusing to load into the main menu

[AlexInvictus]

I'm a newbie to modding, so here's my load order:

0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
254 FE 0 ccbgssse062-ba_dwarvenmail.esl
5 5 ETaC - RESOURCES.esm
6 6 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
7 7 RSkyrimChildren.esm
8 8 MajesticMountains_Landscape.esm
254 FE 1 MajesticMountains_Moss.esp
254 FE 2 RealisticWaterTwo - Resources.esm
9 9 FISS.esp
10 a EFFCore.esm
11 b Fertility Mode.esm
12 c Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
13 d Campfire.esm
14 e FlowerGirls SE.esm
15 f RE_RealEstate_Core.esp
254 FE 3 Expressive Facegen Morphs.esl
16 10 High Poly Head.esm
254 FE 4 FlowerGirls SE Threesome Fix.esl
17 11 SkyUI_SE.esp
18 12 SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
19 13 ELFX - Exteriors.esp
20 14 Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp
21 15 Reverb and Ambiance Overhaul - Skyrim.esp
22 16 Laundry.esp
23 17 Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp
24 18 Vivid WeathersSE.esp
25 19 Immersive Wenches.esp
26 1a NSUTR_bugfixes.esp
27 1b EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
28 1c Weapons Armor Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp
29 1d iNeed.esp
30 1e iNeed - Extended.esp
31 1f Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin SSE Version.esp
32 20 Landscape Fixes For Grass Mods.esp
33 21 S3DLandscapes NextGenerationForests.esp
34 22 ETaC - Complete.esp
35 23 ETaC - Complete RSC Patch.esp
36 24 Footprints.esp
254 FE 5 Footprints - ENB.esp
37 25 Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
38 26 Book Covers Skyrim.esp
39 27 Immersive Weapons.esp
40 28 AI Overhaul.esp
41 29 Skyrim at War.esp
42 2a Cutting Room Floor.esp
43 2b CRF_RSChildrenPatch.esp
254 FE 6 ELFX Fixes.esp
44 2c Blues Skyrim.esp
45 2d HearthfireMultiKid.esp
46 2e Improved Adoptions MERGED.esp
47 2f RSChildren.esp
254 FE 7 RSChildren + AI Overhaul Patch.esp
48 30 Helgen Reborn.esp
49 31 HelgenRebornRSChildrenPatch.esp
50 32 Particle Patch for ENB SSE.esp
51 33 SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp
52 34 Inns and Taverns.esp
53 35 WACCF_Armor and Clothing Extension.esp
54 36 OwnCivilWar.esp
55 37 RE_RealEstate.esp
56 38 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
254 FE 8 3BBB.esp
254 FE 9 Dirt and Blood - Dynamic Visuals.esp
57 39 Realistic Death Physics - No Animations - Skyrim.esp
254 FE a KN_CuttingTrees_Campfire.esp
254 FE b First Person Camera Height Fix.esp
58 3a KS Hairdo's.esp
59 3b VioLens SE.esp
254 FE c Simply Lock Doors & Containers.esp
254 FE d TavernAIFix.esp
254 FE e Immersive Weapons_WACCF_Patch.esp
60 3c Bijin AIO.esp
61 3d Skyrim at War - Civil War Dialogue.esp
62 3e MorePainfulNPCDeathSounds.esp
63 3f Holidays.esp
64 40 ArcheryDummyXP.esp
65 41 ETaC - Complete ELFX Patch.esp
66 42 Tentapalooza.esp
67 43 Cloaks.esp
68 44 Hidden Hideouts of Skyrim - Merged NavMeshed.esp
69 45 fallentreebridgesSSE.esp
70 46 ETaC - Complete No Snow Patch.esp
71 47 EmbersHD.esp
72 48 EFFDialogue.esp
73 49 RDO - EFF v4.0.2 Patch.esp
74 4a Skyrim at War - Army Followers.esp
75 4b Immersive Patrols II.esp
76 4c Frostfall.esp
77 4d Dawn of Skyrim_Holidays_Patch.esp
78 4e SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp
79 4f Character Creation Overhaul.esp
80 50 CCO - Permanent Birthsigns.esp
81 51 EEKs Noble Whiterun Door.esp
82 52 Storefront.esp
83 53 Real Estate USSEP.esp
84 54 FlowerGirls SE - Adventures.esp
85 55 Convenient Horses.esp
Bijin NPCs.esp
Bijin Wives.esp
Bijin Warmaidens.esp
NitroBBLS.esp
254 FE f AI Overhaul - Relationship Dialogue Overhaul Patch.esp
86 56 imp_helm_legend.esp
254 FE 10 imp_helm_legend_WACCF_Patch.esp
254 FE 11 PA44_MiscMale_NPC.esp
87 57 Growl - Werebeasts of Skyrim.esp
88 58 growltweak.esp
89 59 WetandCold.esp
90 5a WetandCold - Fur Hoods Fix.esp
91 5b GTFO My Room.esp
92 5c FGMoreAdventures.esp
254 FE 12 FGMA Multiple Adoptions Patch.esp
254 FE 13 Landscape Fixes For Grass mods - Cutting Room Floor Locations.esp
254 FE 14 No Snow Under The Roof - CRF Patch.esp
93 5d Dawn of Skyrim_Storefront_Patch.esp
94 5e Legion Signifer.esp
95 5f Skyrim at War - Patch (Legion Signifer).esp
96 60 Landscape For Grass mods - Helgen Reborn Patch.esp
97 61 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
98 62 SkyrimIsWindy.esp
99 63 ImperialMail.esp
100 64 Landscape For Grass Mods -Immersive Citizens PATCH.esp
101 65 ETaC - Complete S3D Patch.esp
254 FE 15 AI Overhaul - Cutting Room Floor Patch.esp
254 FE 16 PA44_FalkreathRiverwood_NPC.esp
254 FE 17 PA44_Solitude_NPC.esp
254 FE 18 USSEP-Immersive Weapons Patch.esp
254 FE 19 PA44_Whiterun_NPC.esp
254 FE 1a IW_AIOverhaul_Patch.esp
254 FE 1b IW_Bijin_Patch.esp
254 FE 1c PA44_Riften_NPC.esp
254 FE 1d PA44_ThievesGuild_NPC.esp
254 FE 1e PA44_Winterhold_NPC.esp
254 FE 1f KSHairdosSMP.esp
102 66 ENB Light.esp
103 67 NoRadialBlur.esp
104 68 Smoking Torches and Candles.esp
254 FE 20 PA44_Windhelm_NPC.esp
254 FE 21 PA44_Reach_NPC.esp
254 FE 22 PA44_SmallTowns_NPC.esp
105 69 BecomeABard.esp
254 FE 23 Immersive Wenches -Become a Bard- Patch.esp
106 6a Immersive Wenches -KS hairs- Patch.esp
254 FE 24 Open Civil War Tweaks.esp
107 6b Serana.esp
108 6c Valerica.esp
109 6d Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp
254 FE 25 Wildcat-Immersive Weapons Patch.esp
110 6e DSerArcheryGameplayOverhaul.esp
111 6f HagravenSkinShaders.esp
254 FE 26 SunDaytimeSouth.esp
112 70 Improved Eyes Skyrim - Vamp.esp
113 71 Improved Eyes Skyrim.esp
114 72 Beards.esp
115 73 Brows.esp
116 74 RaceMenu.esp
117 75 RaceMenuPlugin.esp
118 76 CBBE.esp
119 77 RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
254 FE 27 HeightSizeFix.esp
120 78 SOSRaceMenu.esp
121 79 FlowerGirls SE - IW Patch.esp
122 7a TavernGames.esp
123 7b ExtendedStay.esp
124 7c 50 More Perk Points.esp
125 7d Perk Points at Skill Levels 50-75-100.esp
126 7e Thief skills rebalance for Ordinator.esp
127 7f ExtendedStay - Campfire Add-On.esp
128 80 Sleeved Guards.esp
129 81 Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp
130 82 imp_helm_Immersive_Armors.esp
131 83 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
132 84 S3DRocks.esp
133 85 Fertility Mode - Flower Girls.esp
134 86 SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
135 87 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
136 88 XPMSE.esp
137 89 FNIS.esp
138 8a UIExtensions.esp
139 8b DeadlySpellImpacts.esp
254 FE 28 dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp
140 8c BlendedRoads.esp
141 8d CC'sEnhancedOreVeinsSSE-HearthfirePatch.esp
142 8e RUSTIC SOULGEMS - Unsorted.esp
143 8f PumpingIron.esp
144 90 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
145 91 HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp
254 FE 29 Tweaks For Verdant.esp
146 92 IcePenguinWorldMap.esp
147 93 Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp
148 94 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
149 95 CCO - Diverse Races And Genders.esp
150 96 CCO - Dynamic Skill Progression.esp
151 97 CCO - Oblivion Carry Weights.esp
152 98 BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
153 99 iHUD.esp
154 9a FranklyHDImperialArmorsAndWeapons.esp
Fixes for Armor and Clothing Extension.esp
254 FE 2a Vivid Weathers - Wet and Cold patch.esp
155 9b Ars Metallica.esp
156 9c Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
157 9d SBAR - Immersive Patrols II Patch.esp
imp_helm_USSEP.esp
158 9e RAO - ELFX Patch.esp
254 FE 2b MajesticMountains.esp
254 FE 2c NoGrassias.esp
159 9f Stormcloak Battle Armor Replacer.esp
160 a0 RDO - CRF + USSEP Patch.esp
RDO - USSEP Patch.esp
161 a1 FGCumEffect.esp
254 FE 2d PA44_Companions_NPC.esp
254 FE 2e High Poly NPC Overhaul - Dawn of Skyrim.esp
254 FE 2f Legion Signifer Immersive Patrols Patch.esp
254 FE 30 fallenbridgesSSE-Patch.esp
162 a2 My Home Is Your Home.esp
163 a3 Skyrim at War - Armor Hostility.esp
164 a4 Skyrim at War - Bleedout.esp
165 a5 FireBurns.esp
166 a6 Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp
167 a7 Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
168 a8 Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp
254 FE 31 Ordinator_WACCF_Patch.esp
169 a9 Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp
170 aa Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
254 FE 32 Landscape Fixes For Grass mods - Alternate start Locations.esp
171 ab RAO - Alternate Start Patch.esp
172 ac ELFXEnhancer.esp
173 ad RealisticWaterTwo.esp
254 FE 33 ELFX Fixes Ragged Flagon Fix.esp
WACCF_BashedPatchLvlListFix.esp

[KNDY | No Toxicity!]

Haven't really look closely at what you have here but I wanna know if you installed any essential fixes manually or something?

Things like:
SSE engine Fix
SSE Fix
.NetScript Framework
Address Library
SKSE?

Did you install all of these in one go? IF not, what did you last install?

[SpeedFreak1972]

delete WACCF_bashedpatchlvllstfix.esp You don't need it if you haven't got a bashed patch

[KNDY | No Toxicity!]

Originally posted by SpeedFreak1972:

delete WACCF_bashedpatchlvllstfix.esp You don't need it if you haven't got a bashed patch

I believe it's not activated hence not given a ID at the front.

[AlexInvictus]

Originally posted by KNDY:

Haven't really look closely at what you have here but I wanna know if you installed any essential fixes manually or something?

Things like:
SSE engine Fix
SSE Fix
.NetScript Framework
Address Library
SKSE?

Did you install all of these in one go? IF not, what did you last install?

I've installed all of those except SSE Engine Fix and SSE Fix. Will install those right now and post again if it fixes the issue.

[KNDY | No Toxicity!]

Not sure if installing them would fix the issue but yea let us know after.
Just wanted to make sure you have them installed the must-have before you go any further.

Back to my earlier question, did you install all of these mods all in one go?
I ask this because if your game only started to crash after a certain batch of mods, It's easier to diagnose the problem with a smaller range of things to go through.

[AlexInvictus]

Originally posted by KNDY:

Not sure if installing them would fix the issue but yea let us know after.
Just wanted to make sure you have them installed the must-have before you go any further.

Back to my earlier question, did you install all of these mods all in one go?
I ask this because if your game only started to crash after a certain batch of mods, It's easier to diagnose the problem with a smaller range of things to go through.

Nope, did not work sadly. And to your answer your previous question, I did reinstall a bunch of mods that previously worked in my last playthrough that got updated since the last time I played (which was in February). In regards to the mods you listed, those weren't installed in one go if you wanted to know.

[AlexInvictus]

So uh I'm getting this new error now: https://imgur.com/pGyTvU8

[AlexInvictus]

Originally posted by AlexInvictus:

So uh I'm getting this new error now: https://imgur.com/pGyTvU8

Nvm, forgot to read the fine text and I managed to fix this issue... Still having problems loading into the main menu sadly.

[KNDY | No Toxicity!]

Well. There's too many variable and anything could be causing this to happen.
Highly likely to be something to do with your updating. As updating certain mods can cause other mods to no longer work together.

I assume you're using Vortex? I don't know much about it but try to disable all of your current mods. Leave only USSEP and the likes , SSE Engine and so on. Alternate start is fine too so you can create a new character for testing.

See if your game would launch with just the base essential mods. If it doesn't launch then it it's your SKSE version being incompatible with your the core mods.

If it launches, make a new character and save. Quit the game and start enabling mods.
Personally I sort my mods by category, so I enable them by category. If the game fail to launch or CTD happens, I know to look within these category instead of sifting through all hundreds of mods one by one.

Example:
https://i.imgur.com/wefYc3U.png


Personally I leave these enabled even when testing because they're essential and proven to be stable and makes the game stable:
https://i.imgur.com/g8l7agX.png

[KNDY | No Toxicity!]

In the mean time, also do check and make sure:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/489830/discussions/0/312265473877856791/

[AlexInvictus]

Originally posted by KNDY:

Well. There's too many variable and anything could be causing this to happen.
Highly likely to be something to do with your updating. As updating certain mods can cause other mods to no longer work together.

I assume you're using Vortex? I don't know much about it but try to disable all of your current mods. Leave only USSEP and the likes , SSE Engine and so on. Alternate start is fine too so you can create a new character for testing.

See if your game would launch with just the base essential mods. If it doesn't launch then it it's your SKSE version being incompatible with your the core mods.

If it launches, make a new character and save. Quit the game and start enabling mods.
Personally I sort my mods by category, so I enable them by category. If the game fail to launch or CTD happens, I know to look within these category instead of sifting through all hundreds of mods one by one.

Example:
https://i.imgur.com/wefYc3U.png


Personally I leave these enabled even when testing because they're essential and proven to be stable and makes the game stable:
https://i.imgur.com/g8l7agX.png

Yeah that sounds like a pretty reasonable thing to do. I could just disable the mods that I updated and see which ones would need to revert to an older version. If not, then I will have to practice using your method by starting at the essentials. I'm a huge scrub when it comes to modding which is why I use Vortex and the provided video guides to do most of my modding so I'm still rather new to this. Thanks for the support btw.

[Nabinkemper]

OP, you mentioned you updated a few mods. Did you update SKSE64? If you haven't logged in since February and updated the mods recently, I believe a new version of SKSE was released between those dates.

[AlexInvictus]

Originally posted by Nabinkemper:

OP, you mentioned you updated a few mods. Did you update SKSE64? If you haven't logged in since February and updated the mods recently, I believe a new version of SKSE was released between those dates.

Yes, I have checked and installed the most recent version of SKSE.

[Nabinkemper]

Originally posted by AlexInvictus:

Originally posted by Nabinkemper:

OP, you mentioned you updated a few mods. Did you update SKSE64? If you haven't logged in since February and updated the mods recently, I believe a new version of SKSE was released between those dates.

Yes, I have checked and installed the most recent version of SKSE.

Very good. KNDY has some great troubleshooting steps. Good luck!

[AlexInvictus]

Good day all, I'm happy to announce that I have solved the issue. After going through much trial and error with disabling my recently updated mods, I have figured out that the culprit was from a mod called "Skyrim at War" that was causing the long main menu loading issues. If any of ya'll have this mod, make sure to take a look at it and see if it's causing issues for you too. I'll revert the mod to an older version of itself and I will go through some modding guides to make sure everything is in order. Thank you KNDY and others who have given me solid modding advice and I will make sure that these issues won't resurface again.