CTD on accepting key from Gerdur

[Karnettech]

A past internet post suggests its probably a problem with SkyUI. But I don't know how to fix.
My SkyUI did pop warnings at the beginning but my SKSE is absolutely fine so I ignored them all. Now it seems like I'm joining one of many many people who gets instant CTD with SkyUI.

[Grumpy]

#1 load order pls. if you dont know how to get it, then open loot and click on the 3 dots upper right corner and copy load order. if you dont own loot, then download it at https://loot.github.io/

#2 start a new game and tell us the errors you are getting

[Karnettech]

To be very exact, the CTD happens after EXITING the dialogue from Gerdur, but the CTD only happens if accepting the key was one of the selected choices during that dialogue session.

Modding guide says to fix all orange plugins and don't use a merged patch ... I'll try without merged patch, only Bashed and One Imch patch then... anyways load order is here if it helps. It could 'probably' use some manual dragging out but I don't trust myself over Loot.
I only have 5 orange plugins but they are only issues with either wanting to have Dawnguard or Dragonborn before each other in load order, shouldn't be a problem.

Some things to note:
I cleaned all the Masters.
I am using ENB.
I am using a preloaded SKSE ini, and precache and TBB fix, from nexus.

0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm
6 6 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
7 7 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
8 8 hdtHighHeel.esm
9 9 Heels Sound.esm
10 a RaceCompatibility.esm
11 b EFFCore.esm
12 c MotionSick.esp
13 d fox_shop.esm
14 e BBLuxurySuite.esm
15 f TaraUltimateFurniturePack.esm
16 10 Apachii_DivineEleganceStore.esm
17 11 ImCh.esm
18 12 TKChildren.esm
19 13 AyleidCitadel.esp
20 14 SkyUI_SE.esp
21 15 TerrainLodRedone.esp
22 16 RelightingSkyrim_SSE.esp
23 17 SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
24 18 Reverb and Ambiance Overhaul - Skyrim.esp
25 19 EmbersHD.esp
26 1a DeadlySpellImpacts.esp
27 1b Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp
28 1c dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
dD-Reduced Splatter Size.esp
dD-Reduced Wound Size.esp
29 1d FNIS.esp
30 1e bloodbank.esp
31 1f Craftable Ultimate Potions.esp
32 20 Strange Blood.esp
33 21 XPMSE.esp
34 22 MikanEyes All in one.esp
35 23 Beards.esp
36 24 KS Hairdo's.esp
37 25 TKChildren.esp
38 26 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
39 27 Brows.esp
360WalkandRunPlus-RunBackwardSpeedAdjust.esp
40 28 AddItemMenuSE.esp
41 29 AnotherVampireLeatherArmor.esp
42 2a Daedric Chainmail - CBBE(SSE)Bodyslide.esp
43 2b EbonyValkyrie.esp
44 2c yukikaze.esp
45 2d imp_helm_legend.esp
46 2e Justice Glass Armor.esp
47 2f KURESE Gloria conversion.esp
48 30 Mystic Enchantress.esp
49 31 Zipsuit.esp
50 32 SSE High Quality Music.esp
51 33 CharacterMakingExtender.esp
52 34 YunDao_Hdt_Hair.esp
Realistic Haircolors.esp
53 35 Player Blink Fix.esp
54 36 Easy lockpicking.esp
55 37 Extra Effect x3.esp
56 38 yurica_kimono.esp
57 39 SexyVest.esp
SimplyFasterArrows.esp
58 3a VioLens SE.esp
59 3b DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp
60 3c ogSplendorDragons.esp
61 3d Book Covers Skyrim.esp
Skyrim Unlimited Rings And Amulets SSE.esp
ZedUnlimitedWeaponEnchant.esp
62 3e SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp
WeightLessTrueAll.esp
63 3f mrbs-uniqueloot-se.esp
64 40 skyBirds_SSE.esp
65 41 BirdsOfSkyrim_SSE.esp
66 42 Ambriel.esp
67 43 EEKs Arcadia's Cauldron.esp
DW Commoners.esp
68 44 AKSkyrimUnderground.esp
69 45 MrissiTailOfTroubles.esp
70 46 moonpath.esp
71 47 JRMoonpathtoElsweyrPatch.esp
72 48 Holidays.esp
73 49 EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp
74 4a AnimalPajama by keung.esp
75 4b Point The Way.esp
76 4c zMirai.esp
77 4d Run For Your Lives.esp
78 4e Inigo.esp
79 4f Black Viper's Will.esp
80 50 EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp
81 51 Better Dynamic Snow.esp
82 52 FollowerWander2.esp
83 53 Mjoll the Lioness (Frida ver1).esp
84 54 Aela the Huntress (Kristen ver).esp
85 55 Miqo'te Follower.esp
86 56 FNIS_PCEA2.esp
87 57 Combat Evolved.esp
88 58 TheCleaner.esp
89 59 FastTravelSpeedMultiplier.esp
90 5a HearthfireMultiKid.esp
91 5b HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp
92 5c High Level Enemies.esp
93 5d High Level Enemies - Dragonborn.esp
94 5e High Level Enemies - Dawnguard.esp
95 5f LazyTools.esp
96 60 sandboxcylinderheight.esp
97 61 NoBSAIProjectileDodge.esp
98 62 Predator Vision.esp
Proper Aiming.esp
99 63 Realistic-Voice.esp
100 64 BetterQuestObjectives.esp
101 65 BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
Fixed body collision.esp
BetterQuestObjectives - BCS Patch.esp
102 66 GoToBed.esp
103 67 20 arrows attached.esp
5 minutes.esp
104 68 _001_SelfFillingBookshelves.esp
105 69 UnlimitedSummons.esp
106 6a Facelight.esp
107 6b Slow and Freeze Time Spells -TwinCrows.esp
108 6c JS Armored Circlets SE.esp
109 6d LingerieSetCBBE3_2ByNausicaa.esp
110 6e SofiaFollower.esp
111 6f Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
LittleRocksBeGone.esp
112 70 Recorder Follower Base.esp
113 71 Public Executions.esp
114 72 Apachii_DivineEleganceStore_Patch.esp
115 73 ElysiumEstate.esp
116 74 ForgottenCity.esp
117 75 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
118 76 Qw_SofiaFollower_USSEP Patch.esp
119 77 gifts of akatosh.esp
120 78 FoxMerged.esp
121 79 _ImoMegane.esp
122 7a j3x-autocrossbows.esp
123 7b CraftingSupplies_AIO_ALL.esp
124 7c R18Pn - Eisen Platte Armor.esp
125 7d R18pn - Shanoa Armors.esp
126 7e R18Pn - Ritter Armor - Heavy.esp
127 7f Jormundandr Dragon.esp
128 80 FNISspells.esp
129 81 Hermit.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp
130 82 BBLSmusic.esp
131 83 Ring of AirWalking - Skyrim Edition.esp
132 84 Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp
133 85 BBLuxurySuiteENM.esp
134 86 ValkyrieSwordShield.esp
135 87 RGMsAlchemistsCompendium.esp
136 88 Dark Envoy.esp
137 89 Nightingale Prime remaster.esp
138 8a Apocalypse - Cheat Chests.esp
139 8b RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp
140 8c Animated Eating Redux.esp
141 8d Toccata as Elisif.esp
142 8e Men of Winter.esp
All armor - All enchantments.esp
143 8f aion_opulent.esp
144 90 NINI_Collection_9DMJINGYU.esp
145 91 IcyV Crystalia withouthdtHH.esp
146 92 IcyV Crystalia hdtHH.esp
147 93 Gothic Lynn.esp
148 94 Temptressdressv1.esp
149 95 AngelArmor.esp
150 96 R.B Frea Standalone Follower.esp
151 97 childskeletonfix.esp
152 98 SlowTimePower.esp
153 99 Psychokinesis Spell SSE.esp
154 9a 1.esp
155 9b AMatterOfTime.esp
156 9c icepenguinworldmapclassic.esp
157 9d AHZmoreHUD.esp
158 9e UIExtensions.esp
Realistic Pickpocket Chance.esp
159 9f DisableHDREffects.esp
160 a0 FireBurns.esp
No More Ugly Effects SE.esp
NoRadialBlur.esp
161 a1 Mythical Ages.esp
162 a2 dragonslayerarrows - temper.esp
163 a3 ElementalArrows.esp
164 a4 PDCrossbow - Feykrosah Nin.esp
Qw_ISC_USSEP Patch.esp
165 a5 RUSTIC SOULGEMS - Sorted.esp
166 a6 DankTempest.esp
167 a7 Magicka Sabers Unique.esp
168 a8 LorkhanMoonlightGreatswordPack.esp
169 a9 CiriOutfit.esp
170 aa Skysan_GlassAW.esp
171 ab Skysan_Stalhrim.esp
172 ac Qw_BookCoversSkyrim_USSEP Patch.esp
Qw_BarenziahQuestMarkers_USSEP Patch.esp
Qw_DeadlySpellImpacts_ISC Patch.esp
Qw_RusticSoulgemsSorted_ISC Patch.esp
173 ad earring.esp
174 ae EFFDialogue.esp
175 af Luminosity - Lightweight Lighting.esp
176 b0 RealisticWaterTwo.esp
177 b1 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp
178 b2 One ImCH Patch.esp
Merged Patch.esp
179 b3 Bashed Patch, 0.esp

[Karnettech]

Errors so far:

SkyUI cannot recognize menu.swf version (wrong version), and all following .swfs are wrong too.
(Error code 5
containermenu.swf
skyui/itemcard.swf
skyui/inventorylists.swf
skyui/bottombar.swf)

Some minor problems with missing animations (but only limited animations such as when player is tied up at the beginning, which will almost never happen again during the game)(Unable to enter 1st person until untied after opening sequence.
Dragon does not correctly blow apart side wall of tower during openining sequence, had to use tcl to exit tower and jump onto roof. (Sequence runs correctly on a second time)
Additem menu cannot recognize SKSE, fails to work.
That's basically it.

[Karnettech]

At the current stage I am "guessing" (if it's not a problem with SkyUI) then it's a problem with the custom race ygnord I am using, which should be identical to Nord, but is evidently not. I will try to progress to Gerdur key stage and see with a default Nord. (I have no idea how this could even be remotely be linked to the issue but just guessing. It's probably still SkyUI.)

If this fails to provide any leads I'll probably just uninstall SkyUI and Additemmenu and start a new run. Not worth the hassle.

[Grumpy]

#1 which mod manager are you using?

#2 when writing getskseversion into the console ( ~ ) which output you get?

#3 as for the error code 5, you have other mods overriting the mentioned UI elements of skyUI

[ferhatcancskun]

This is a for aa

[Karnettech]

1) I use NMM because one of my mods require custom patching with MO and virtual installs.
2) SKSE64 version: 2.0.1.0, release idx 59, runtime 01050350
3) Probably a copy SkyUI from a modpack, lemme check, very good point, very very good point .....

[Karnettech]

Oh ♥♥♥♥ it "does" include a SkyUI copy, probably outdated too, though I'm almost sure I overwrote that with my standalone SkyUI, (I mean there's option in the installer to not install the included "outdated" SkyUI, and in the packmaker's defense there is probably an up-to-date version mine is just a month old) but jesus.
However it still doesn't explain why Additemmenu fails to recognize the SKSE version, but I'm gonna need to do a clean reinstall of my whole frickin mod list now.
Thanks for the help.

[Grumpy]

I would not recommend mod packs for special edition because it updates quite often.

Originally posted by Karnettech:

1) I use NMM because one of my mods require custom patching with MO and virtual installs.

what? which mod?

[Karnettech]

Hmm this is confusing because when I install SkyUI standalone, it does not prompt me to overwrite anything thus I assume it is the topmost installation ... I have no idea how a partial SkyUI outdated version can remain. It's just a single Bsa and Esp .. wait, could the modpack be using loose files? Loose files no good for SE gotta check....

And the most recent modpack date is Nov.9th which isn't that far back (but mine is a bit far back though from September which may have caused probles), but I disabled skyrim autoupdate and use offline mode. Modpack most of it is just non-script stuff such as textures and animations which usually are update safe.

Can't remember which mod. Maybe the children mod? idk.

[Karnettech]

Ye there's a loose SkyUI folder in Data.
Hmm...

Deleted
tabbedinventorylists.swf
inventorylists.swf
containermenu.swf

Let's try again.
Edit: This worked. Loose outdated files were the problem.

[Karnettech]

YESSSSSSSSSSS fixed. GOdanit loose files.
Apparently Gerdur trades with you in direct transition from the dialogue, and some outdated swfs with loose trademenu files etc. screwed up.

Modding this game is more fun than actually playing it.

[bLaCkShAd0w]

Originally posted by Karnettech:

Modding this game is more fun than actually playing it.

Indeed!