My character has no eyes

[XperienZ]

So I recently installed and started modding SSE on my new computer, and made the classic mistake of istalling 50+ mods in a row without checking ingame for issues. Now my character has no eyes, just empty eye sockets. I tried disabling the "Improved eyes" mod since I figured that might be the cause, but no, still no eyes. It shouldn't be the ENB either since it's just my character's eyes who are gone. I would post a modlist but screenshots aren't allowed..

[SpeedFreak1972]

tip host them on your profile page or an external site and link them here

[smr1957]

Please do the basic troubleshooting first - and then please remember - for your own sake - to install mods properly and with test along the way.

To test, turning off mods is not the way to go - any bad info may have been baked into the save. The way to test is to start off with a vanilla save (or a save that only has the mods you absolutely know are safe) - one made where the CTDs occur so it is easy to test - and then add in groups of mods till you find the one causing the crash - making a manual save each time so you can roll back when the CTD occurs and zero in on the specific mod. And although that may be time consuming, often it is far better and quicker using that systematic approach than trying to guess willy-nilly which mod it is (unless one of us happens to spot a mod we know is a problem when you post a load order).

Second, once you do find which mod is causing the crash, and have removed it, you cannot continue using the same save, again due to how Skyrim bakes data into the save (and this data CANNOT be removed - despite what some may say) . You must either go back to a save made prior to having installed the removed/disabled mod, or start a new game. There is no other option - unless the mod is one of the exceptions mentioned in the below linked discussion. For complete info on this, see:

For SSE
http://steamcommunity.com/app/489830/discussions/0/1520386297681801135/

As to posting your mod list, screenshots are NOT needed, nor are the recommended or wanted. Just use LOOT. To post your load order, just click on the 3 vertical dots in the upper right corner of the LOOT screen, click on copy load order from the drop-down menu, and then paste in the reply box.

But, that should not be needed as it is clearly a case that can be fixed by loading the mods up a few at a time to determine the issue.

[XperienZ]

0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 RSkyrimChildren.esm
6 6 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
7 7 BSAssets.esm
8 8 BSHeartland.esm
254 FE 0 RealisticWaterTwo - Resources.esm
9 9 BS_DLC_patch.esp
10 a ApachiiHairMales.esm
11 b ApachiiHairFemales.esm
12 c ApachiiHair.esm
13 d SkyUI_SE.esp
14 e Obsidian Weathers.esp
15 f SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
16 10 TKDodge.esp
17 11 FNISSexyMove.esp
18 12 FNIS.esp
19 13 Improved Eyes Skyrim.esp
20 14 Cutting Room Floor.esp
21 15 CRF_RSChildrenPatch.esp
22 16 RLO - Exteriors.esp
23 17 Eli_Breezehome.esp
24 18 Book Covers Skyrim.esp
25 19 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
26 1a Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
27 1b 1nivWICCloaks.esp
28 1c Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
29 1d AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
30 1e Immersive Weapons.esp
31 1f Bijin NPCs.esp
32 20 Bijin Warmaidens.esp
33 21 RSChildren Patch - BS Bruma.esp
34 22 RSChildren.esp
35 23 Footprints.esp
36 24 KS Hairdo's.esp
37 25 Unique Uniques.esp
38 26 RaceMenu.esp
39 27 XPMSE.esp
40 28 RaceMenuPlugin.esp
41 29 EmbersHD.esp
42 2a Immersive Patrols II.esp
43 2b The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
44 2c Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp
45 2d CBBE.esp
46 2e Perk Points at Skill Levels 50-75-100.esp
47 2f dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
48 30 Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
254 FE 1 Ordinator - Beyond Skyrim Bruma Patch.esp
49 31 Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp
50 32 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
51 33 RLO - Interiors.esp
52 34 RLO - CRF Patch.esp
53 35 RLO - Illuminated Spells.esp
54 36 EmbersHD - RLO Patch.esp
55 37 Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
56 38 RDO - AFT v1.66 Patch.esp
57 39 RDO - CRF + USSEP Patch.esp
RDO - USSEP Patch.esp
58 3a RealisticWaterTwo.esp
59 3b Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
60 3c IcePenguinWorldMapPaper.esp

[TSP]

Your loadorder is a real mess there.

[XperienZ]

It is? LOOT made no changes to the load order when I sorted load order.

[rallicknom]

Did you run FINIS after installing your mods?

The OP did not have a CTD but a problem with character creation.

[NaabiS]

Originally posted by smr1957:

Please do the basic troubleshooting first - and then please remember - for your own sake - to install mods properly and with test along the way.

To test, turning off mods is not the way to go - any bad info may have been baked into the save. The way to test is to start off with a vanilla save (or a save that only has the mods you absolutely know are safe) - one made where the CTDs occur so it is easy to test - and then add in groups of mods till you find the one causing the crash - making a manual save each time so you can roll back when the CTD occurs and zero in on the specific mod. And although that may be time consuming, often it is far better and quicker using that systematic approach than trying to guess willy-nilly which mod it is (unless one of us happens to spot a mod we know is a problem when you post a load order).

Second, once you do find which mod is causing the crash, and have removed it, you cannot continue using the same save, again due to how Skyrim bakes data into the save (and this data CANNOT be removed - despite what some may say) . You must either go back to a save made prior to having installed the removed/disabled mod, or start a new game. There is no other option - unless the mod is one of the exceptions mentioned in the below linked discussion. For complete info on this, see:

For SSE
http://steamcommunity.com/app/489830/discussions/0/1520386297681801135/

As to posting your mod list, screenshots are NOT needed, nor are the recommended or wanted. Just use LOOT. To post your load order, just click on the 3 vertical dots in the upper right corner of the LOOT screen, click on copy load order from the drop-down menu, and then paste in the reply box.

But, that should not be needed as it is clearly a case that can be fixed by loading the mods up a few at a time to determine the issue.

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/5031 you can clean your save don't spread false information

[smr1957]

I will only post this here once, as I do not wish to sidetrack the discussion. Saves CANNOT be cleaned of information that has been baked in. All the information regarding that is in the link I posted. Tools such as Falrim Tools or other save cleaners can rid a save of obsolete entries and orphaned scripts, but not the data or scripts which have been baked in. All the info is in the linked thread - and it is not just my words - but the words of Arthmoor, Ilja, and the experience of Bethesda developers themselves - unless it is being claimed that they, too, are spreading false information - and if so, then a person claiming this should start a thread and expose this with any proof they may have (though, of course, this would be akin to proving the world to be flat).

My apologies, XperienZ, but these type of statements by those who are uniformed need to be stamped out on the spot.

And no, your load order is not a "real mess." But, have you troubleshooted it as instructed? Because, in the end, that is most likely what you will need to do regardless.

[NaabiS]

Originally posted by smr1957:

I will only post this here once, as I do not wish to sidetrack the discussion. Saves CANNOT be cleaned of information that has been baked in. All the information regarding that is in the link I posted. Tools such as Falrim Tools or other save cleaners can rid a save of obsolete entries and orphaned scripts, but not the data or scripts which have been baked in. All the info is in the linked thread - and it is not just my words - but the words of Arthmoor, Ilja, and the experience of Bethesda developers themselves - unless it is being claimed that they, too, are spreading false information - and if so, then a person claiming this should start a thread and expose this with any proof they may have (though, of course, this would be akin to proving the world to be flat).

My apologies, XperienZ, but these type of statements by those who are uniformed need to be stamped out on the spot.

And no, your load order is not a "real mess." But, have you troubleshooted it as instructed? Because, in the end, that is most likely what you will need to do regardless.

fair enough but why the f people dont just use google theres 2 fixes for this what op mention or are people just so f simple idk pisses me off

[XperienZ]

Originally posted by rallicknom:

Did you run FINIS after installing your mods?

The OP did not have a CTD but a problem with character creation.

You mean the GenerateFNISforModders? Yes I have

[XperienZ]

Originally posted by Ghost:

Originally posted by smr1957:

I will only post this here once, as I do not wish to sidetrack the discussion. Saves CANNOT be cleaned of information that has been baked in. All the information regarding that is in the link I posted. Tools such as Falrim Tools or other save cleaners can rid a save of obsolete entries and orphaned scripts, but not the data or scripts which have been baked in. All the info is in the linked thread - and it is not just my words - but the words of Arthmoor, Ilja, and the experience of Bethesda developers themselves - unless it is being claimed that they, too, are spreading false information - and if so, then a person claiming this should start a thread and expose this with any proof they may have (though, of course, this would be akin to proving the world to be flat).

My apologies, XperienZ, but these type of statements by those who are uniformed need to be stamped out on the spot.

And no, your load order is not a "real mess." But, have you troubleshooted it as instructed? Because, in the end, that is most likely what you will need to do regardless.

fair enough but why the f people dont just use google theres 2 fixes for this what op mention or are people just so f simple idk pisses me off

I tried googling it but none of those so called solution worked.

[Uncle64]

What tool did you use for installing your mods?

[Kussin]

verify cache maybe in case the whatever-eye mod you installed before somehow messed with it.
otherwise i have no clue what could cause it. start new game anyways

FNIS wont be the case. You just have sexymove and tk dodge and in case u wouldnt have installed it correctly you would see other problems such as static T pose.

[XperienZ]

Originally posted by Uncle64:

What tool did you use for installing your mods?

Vortex

[XperienZ]

I figured it out! It was Total Character makeover that caused the issue. Probably it was a mod conflict with the eye mod or something else.