Crashing from entering Dragonsreach - Fixed

[Zblueman]

Hi,
I am having trouble with this crash from only entering Dragonsreach and it would be my first time entering it ever, if that makes a difference. I enter, it goes to loading for a couple of seconds and then CTD's. Same thing happens if I try to COC into the cell as well.
I seemingly have no other problems in the game at all besides this one crash.
I installed my mods based on the S.E.P.T.I.M. guidelines on nexus ( https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/2846/? ) but I didn't use all of them.

I have ran FNIS, Wyre bash, Mod Organizer, TES5EDIT/SEEEDIT, LOOT and use NMM to install most of the mods. However, none of those programs register any problems at all in the load order or mod conflicts.

I am on windows 10, with a GTX 1070, and I7 5820k cpu.

I am currently not useing an ENB at this time as I thought that may help fix or eliminate problems.

Load order:

0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
6 6 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
7 7 ApachiiHair.esm
8 8 ApachiiHairFemales.esm
9 9 ApachiiHairMales.esm
10 a Cutting Room Floor.esp
11 b SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
12 c RichMerchantsSkyrim_x10.esp
13 d Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp
14 e XPMSSE.esp
15 f dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Medium.esp
16 10 FastTravelSpeedMultiplier.esp
17 11 beltfastenedquivers.esp
18 12 Real Roads.esp
19 13 12FemaleBrows.esp
20 14 TrueBrows.esp
21 15 SkyUI_SE.esp
22 16 SkyHUD.esp
23 17 Joy of Perspective.esp
24 18 CharacterMakingExtender.esp
25 19 EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp
26 1a ogSplendorDragons.esp
27 1b Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp
28 1c EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
29 1d Vivid WeathersSE.esp
30 1e IcePenguinWorldMap.esp
31 1f EliAtrociousRiftenTextureFix.esp
32 20 ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥s of SkyrimSE - Light.esp
33 21 ScopedBows.esp
34 22 Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
35 23 Book Covers Skyrim.esp
36 24 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
37 25 mihailrusticweaponspack.esp
38 26 Point The Way.esp
39 27 SimplyBiggerTreesSE.esp
40 28 cowherdsofskyrim.esp
41 29 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
42 2a Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin SSE Version.esp
43 2b JKs Whiterun.esp
44 2c TKAA.esp
45 2d JK's Riverwood.esp
46 2e Immersive Wenches.esp
47 2f Shor's Stone.esp
48 30 SkyrimImprovedPuddles-DG-HF-DB.esp
49 31 Immersive Followers.esp
50 32 BetterQuestObjectives.esp
51 33 Facelight.esp
52 34 MattAddonOP.esp
53 35 SoundsOfBarenziah.esp
54 36 Amaya.esp
55 37 Zoe FX117.esp
56 38 RM Unicorn Girls.esp
57 39 TrueEyes.esp
58 3a LindsWoodlandAlchemist.esp
59 3b Insanity'sServatorMashup.esp
60 3c [enz] ESO - Bosmer Antlers.esp
61 3d DeerHoovesAndTail.esp
62 3e Sleeveless Samfu X117.esp
63 3f SideDragonPriestMasks.esp
64 40 PerkPointPotion.esp
65 41 AliciaFollower.esp
66 42 GomaperoFollower.esp
67 43 KS Hairdo's.esp
68 44 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
69 45 PandaOutfit.esp
70 46 S&D shadow walker.esp
71 47 UIExtensions.esp
72 48 AddItemMenu2.esp
73 49 WeightLessTrueAll.esp
74 4a CC'sEnhancedOreVeinsSSE-HearthfirePatch.esp
75 4b Beards.esp
76 4c DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp
77 4d dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
78 4e dD-Medium Script Range.esp
79 4f dD-No Screen Blood.esp
80 50 dD-Reduced Splatter Size.esp
81 51 dD-Reduced Wound Size.esp
82 52 Ivarstead.esp
83 53 Helarchen Creek.esp
84 54 Kynesgrove.esp
85 55 Soljund's Sinkhole.esp
86 56 Karthwasten.esp
87 57 ElysiumEstateSSE.esp
88 58 mihailmmaminotaur.esp
89 59 mihailfleshatronach.esp
90 5a Prometheus_BeastSkeletons.esp
91 5b Immersive Wenches -Apachii hairs- Patch.esp
92 5c BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
93 5d BetterQuestObjectives - BCS Patch.esp
94 5e BetterQuestObjectives-DBForevertoMisc.esp
95 5f BetterQuestObjectives-CRFPatch.esp
96 60 Blacksmith Forge Water Fix SE USSEP.esp
97 61 mihailbolgan.esp
98 62 mihailcentaur.esp
99 63 mihailcurseddoll.esp
100 64 JKs Whiterun exterior.esp
101 65 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
102 66 Gildergreen Regrown.esp
103 67 Rorona Zoro Weapons.esp
104 68 Iron-ScalesAndCinder-TailBeastRaceFollowers.esp
105 69 Forge Water Fix - CRF Patch.esp
106 6a BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp
107 6b dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp
108 6c 50 More Perk Points.esp
109 6d Simple AUA.esp
110 6e Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp
111 6f ISC Enhanced Blood Patch.esp
112 70 1nivWICCloaksNoGuards.esp
113 71 Unique Uniques.esp
114 72 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
115 73 JS Armored Circlets SE.esp
116 74 WeaponsOf3E_SSE.esp
117 75 RUSTIC SOULGEMS - Unsorted.esp
118 76 Footprints.esp
119 77 Vivid Weathers - Extended Snow.esp
120 78 Vivid Weathers - Extended Rain.esp
121 79 DustEffectsSSE.esp
122 7a mcgFemaleWalk for SkyrimSE.esp
123 7b FNIS.esp
124 7c FNISspells.esp
aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
125 7d Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
126 7e Darkwater Crossing.esp
127 7f Whistling Mine.esp
128 80 Immersive Wenches -Immersive Citizens AI Overhaul Patch-.esp
129 81 RealisticWaterTwo.esp
130 82 RealisticWaterTwo - Watercolor.esp
131 83 My Home Is Your Home.esp
132 84 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
133 85 Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
134 86 RDO - CRF + USSEP Patch.esp
135 87 BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp
RDO - USSEP Patch.esp

There are some mods that have no .esp's or .esm's such as texture mods or other mods that aren't on my load order but are on the S.E.P.T.I.M. guide. As well as any oldrim mod that is on my load order was ported by me and works perfectly in my game.

Any ideas or help are appreciated, Thanks.

Edit: Replaced NMM's load order with LOOT's.

Edit: The crash was caused by an incorrectly ported follower which caused the crash in only that area.

[Magicktech]

So you ran everything except LOOT.

[Zblueman]

Originally posted by ∞Phantasm:

So you ran everything except LOOT.

Oh, I forgot to include that lol. Yes I have ran LOOT and there weren't any problems with the load order when I ran that either. But I also based my load order off of the guidelines and what others have said so its all manually placed at this point.

[Chef]

Download the newest version of LOOT (12) and run that. Let it place stuff where it wants and then give it a try.

[Zblueman]

Originally posted by Chef:

Download the newest version of LOOT (12) and run that. Let it place stuff where it wants and then give it a try.

Unfortunately, I am already running LOOT 0.12.1 (newest).

[Chef]

Post your load order straight from LOOT (the 3 ... in the upper right hand corner, then Copy Load Order) and paste that here. I'm not as good with Skyrim as I am with FO4, but there are a couple of things there that don't look right. The one you posted is from NMM or MO.

Edit: Just to be clear, post the sorted order.

[Zblueman]

Originally posted by Chef:

Post your load order straight from LOOT

Sorry for the late reply, appreciate the help. Yeah the one I orignally posted was from NMM.
I put LOOT's order in my original post instead of NMM's.

[Zblueman]

Any suggestions?

[Magicktech]

Yeah, learn how to use SSEEdit/xEdit and look for conflicts in red as well as get rid of mods you don't need, such as beltfastenedquivers which is already an option in XPMSSE.

[Lava Alien 1000]

check verfiy intergerity of files.

your game could be crashing due to missing files.

[Chef]

One thing right off the bat. This 114 72 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp needs to be above 36 24 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

Thats all I have till i can look at mine tonight, we use some of the same mods so I may have an idea then.

[Zblueman]

Originally posted by Darkalien100:

check verfiy intergerity of files.

I actually did that last night but it didn't change anything unfortunately. It's still just this one weird crash from only dragonsreach.

Originally posted by ∞Phantasm:

Yeah, learn how to use SSEEdit/xEdit and look for conflicts in red as well as get rid of mods you don't need, such as beltfastenedquivers which is already an option in XPMSSE.

I actually did go through with SSEEdit and nothing comes up as a conflict. I believe there was one mod being overwritten before but I removed it and it didn't change it. I will try removing unnecessary things, such as the quivers, as soon as I get home. Although I can't see something like that causing an issue in only one area.

Is it possible there is a corrupt mesh or texture causing the crash?

[Zblueman]

Originally posted by Chef:

One thing right off the bat. This 114 72 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp needs to be above 36 24 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

Oh, alright. I will try it as soon as I get home. Although, I believe that's how it was before I sorted it with LOOT lol.

[Zblueman]

Fixed the crash. Somehow a follower mod was incompatible in general because the author didn't port it correctly so it only crashed the area it was located in. I think it also conflicted with one of the weapon mods.
Either way, it's fixed. Thank you all for your suggestions and tips.

Originally posted by Zblueman:

Oh, alright. I will try it as soon as I get home. Although, I believe that's how it was before I sorted it with LOOT lol.

[Magicktech]

Originally posted by Zblueman:

Originally posted by Chef:

One thing right off the bat. This 114 72 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp needs to be above 36 24 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

Oh, alright. I will try it as soon as I get home. Although, I believe that's how it was before I sorted it with LOOT lol.

yeah LOOT gets that one wrong, or LOOT might not even have the mod in the database and it just gets jumbled up from sorting other stuff. Even reading the mod description page it tells how it should be. That wouldn't cause a crash, but it might causes some missing textures or something.