The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Special Edition

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Malaman Nov 8, 2016 @ 1:09pm
Weird water reflection
I'm having this weird water reflection where it looks like there's a line dividing the reflection depending on how I look to the water.

Notice in the screenshots below:


In this first one I'm looking directly to the bridge and everything is fine.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=796128599


In this second one I look slightly below and the reflection is cut in half.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=796128692


And finally this third picture you clearly see the line that divides where the reflection is different.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=796128761



In these screenshots I have all my mods enabled but I already tried disabling them all one by one to see if any of those were causing it to no success. It turns out this isn't so visible with vanilla water textures because they are too blurry but when I installed Realistic Water Two this poped out because the water is cleaner.

Here's my mod list:

USSEP
Lanterns of Skyrim
Even Better Quest Objectives
Combat Evolved
Vigor
Run for your Lives
When Vanpires Attack
Book Covers Skyrim
Day night city lights
realistic conversations
Enhanced Blood Textures
Wet and Cold
No Snow under the roof
Realistic water two
True Storms
SMIM
Noble Skyrim Textures HD 2K
aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Weapons and Armor
Superior Lore Friendly Hair


My System Specs:

CPU i5 4570 3.2 GHz
GPU GTX 670 2 GB
RAM 8 GB
Windows 8.1
Latest drivers installed.

Any idea if this is a vaniila thing?

Can anyone test this in their game to see if this happens also?
Last edited by Malaman; Nov 8, 2016 @ 1:10pm
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frankstahl Nov 15, 2016 @ 5:03am 
Today I submitted a request on Bethesda's site for support and technical issues.
I hope they take notice. Believe it or not, when you have to choose the "product title", you can't even chose "Skyrim Special Edition", you have to chose "The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim".
I really hope this will work out.
Ordellus Nov 15, 2016 @ 5:39am 
Turn all mods off: Does issue persist?

If yes, bug report.

If no, test mods one by one unti you find the issue.
Last edited by Ordellus; Nov 15, 2016 @ 5:39am
frankstahl Nov 15, 2016 @ 10:04am 
Yes, it is definitely already in the vanilla game. No mods whatsoever.
It's clearly a bug.
The main effect seems to be: When you are looking across a water surface at a scene, observe the reflections on the water. Under certain angles everything seems ok (if looking straight ahead or slightly upwards).
Then start looking down slowly. You will notice the reflection on the water surface developing a horizontal divide (it first appears as kind of a shadow, clearly divided by a sharp horizontal line).
The reason is that there are still screen space reflections below this line but above it has no screen space reflections at all, only the normal 'fake' reflections (as if Screen Space Reflections had been turned off in the area above the dividing line).
Last edited by frankstahl; Nov 15, 2016 @ 10:06am
KenG10 Nov 16, 2016 @ 8:23pm 
I'd like to also confirm that I get the "green glow" water reflection. I made a post on reddit about this just now.

This is what I see in an unmodded vanilla game:
http://imgur.com/a/xLkOv
No suggestions Nov 16, 2016 @ 9:05pm 
I've also noticed this, my game is completely vanilla though.
Bozz Collin Nov 16, 2016 @ 9:21pm 
Originally posted by KenG10:
I'd like to also confirm that I get the "green glow" water reflection. I made a post on reddit about this just now.

This is what I see in an unmodded vanilla game:
http://imgur.com/a/xLkOv
There is a specific mod that causes the green reflection.... Can't remember it for the life of me right now, but I recently had it and uninstalled it because of this glow.
Last edited by Bozz Collin; Nov 16, 2016 @ 9:21pm
Hate Crime Nov 16, 2016 @ 11:11pm 
I get that line from bad reflections, Boris fixed it with enb for skyrim2011, hopefully SSE can get the same treatment. This crap drives me nuts: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=801104806
frankstahl Nov 17, 2016 @ 4:03am 
@BozzCollin
"There is a specific mod that causes the green reflection"
No, it's not in my case. Definitely not. It's in the newly setup, completely mod-free game as well.
Just Chill Nov 17, 2016 @ 4:21am 
Originally posted by Vazkulator:
enhanced blood textures caused serious issues for me both at smoke and water, try uninstalling it and reinstalling real water two
Dude, you had way more issues than the OP.
Look at his screenshots.
Furthermore we just found out that it is a vanilla issue for the OP, not an installation issue of Enhanced Blood Textures as you had.

I'm really thinking of installing Enhanced Blood Textures as soon as I can, just to take a few screenshots about and post them in your thread.

I mean, it's just not right to blame a mod for issues others don't have.
If I get those issues myself, I will support your thread, otherwise you should realize that you did something wrong by yourself.
Last edited by Just Chill; Nov 17, 2016 @ 4:32am
KenG10 Nov 17, 2016 @ 10:46am 
Originally posted by BozzCollin:
Originally posted by KenG10:
I'd like to also confirm that I get the "green glow" water reflection. I made a post on reddit about this just now.

This is what I see in an unmodded vanilla game:
http://imgur.com/a/xLkOv
There is a specific mod that causes the green reflection.... Can't remember it for the life of me right now, but I recently had it and uninstalled it because of this glow.

Nope. It is definitely an issue in the base game. Small waterfalls reflect bright green in the surrounding waters when using screen space reflections.

Location on map: http://imgur.com/a/u02EH

What I see: http://imgur.com/a/xLkOv
frankstahl Nov 17, 2016 @ 2:56pm 
@KenG10
Yepp, that's the exact same location where I have the exact same issue.
I already sent a screenshot to Bethesda, and after a lot of (really *very* basic and totally useless) advice they gave me, they finally acknowledged "it appears that this may be a bug".
Last edited by frankstahl; Nov 17, 2016 @ 2:56pm
Rem NL Dec 19, 2016 @ 7:16am 
Originally posted by KenG10:
Originally posted by BozzCollin:
There is a specific mod that causes the green reflection.... Can't remember it for the life of me right now, but I recently had it and uninstalled it because of this glow.

Nope. It is definitely an issue in the base game. Small waterfalls reflect bright green in the surrounding waters when using screen space reflections.

Location on map: http://imgur.com/a/u02EH

What I see: http://imgur.com/a/xLkOv


I know a wayy to fix this but you will lose reflection of clouds. Adjust your skyrim.ini file !!! not skyrimprefs.ini !!!

Search for: [Water]

Make sure you have bReflectsky=0

bReflectLODLand=1
bReflectLODObjects=1
bReflectLODTrees=1
bReflectSky=0
frankstahl Dec 22, 2016 @ 3:24pm 
Originally posted by Rem_NL:
Originally posted by KenG10:

Nope. It is definitely an issue in the base game. Small waterfalls reflect bright green in the surrounding waters when using screen space reflections.

Location on map: http://imgur.com/a/u02EH

What I see: http://imgur.com/a/xLkOv


I know a wayy to fix this but you will lose reflection of clouds. Adjust your skyrim.ini file !!! not skyrimprefs.ini !!!

Search for: [Water]

Make sure you have bReflectsky=0

bReflectLODLand=1
bReflectLODObjects=1
bReflectLODTrees=1
bReflectSky=0


@Rem_NL: Erm, no.
You are talking about the old Skyrim of 2011: In that game's Skyrim.ini the values you are writing about actually exist.
In the Skyrim.ini of Skyrim Special Edition however, there simply is no [Water] section, and if you create it with the values you are talking about, nothing changes whatsoever.
Last edited by frankstahl; Dec 22, 2016 @ 3:26pm
Rem NL Dec 23, 2016 @ 12:51pm 
Originally posted by frankstahl:
Originally posted by Rem_NL:


I know a wayy to fix this but you will lose reflection of clouds. Adjust your skyrim.ini file !!! not skyrimprefs.ini !!!

Search for: [Water]

Make sure you have bReflectsky=0

bReflectLODLand=1
bReflectLODObjects=1
bReflectLODTrees=1
bReflectSky=0


@Rem_NL: Erm, no.
You are talking about the old Skyrim of 2011: In that game's Skyrim.ini the values you are writing about actually exist.
In the Skyrim.ini of Skyrim Special Edition however, there simply is no [Water] section, and if you create it with the values you are talking about, nothing changes whatsoever.


It does for me, make sure you change it in skyrimprefs.ini not skyrim.ini located somewhere in your documents folder/games. Alternativly (and highly reccomended) use bethini http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/4875/?
frankstahl Dec 23, 2016 @ 2:22pm 
Well, now it's SkyrimPrefs.ini. In your previous post you said Skyrim.ini, *not* SkyrimPrefs.ini.
Still, if I insert this under the [Water] section in SkyrimPrefs.ini nothing changes whatsoever. Even if I use BethIni: no changes of the bad reflections at all.
Last edited by frankstahl; Dec 23, 2016 @ 2:36pm
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