Infinite loading screen issue? Or is my game to big?

[✪ Rizz]

As far as i know no mods are causing any problems, i can load the game, load into a character, run around and interact with stuff, but whenever i try to leave the Realm of lorkhan (which is my starting place for a new game) my screen goes into the loading screen and it shows up as not responding in task manager, but the loading screen doesnt freeze, the text changes and fog still moves. It wont even let me force close my game trough task manager, i have to restart my PC completely.. Would the issue be with the Realm of lorkhan mod, or would it be any loading screen i pass through even without that mod? i tried even letting it load for like 20 mins and nothing, With all my mods which is 170 plugins (40/60 are just patches). I went to see how big the full game is with the mods on my program files (x84)>steam>steamapps>common>skyrim special edition and its at 81.1GB, 105,394 files, 4,770 folders..
My PC specs are, intel core i7k 8700k, GPU Nvidia GeForce GTX 1080 ti, 16GB DDR4 ram, 2 TB HD, 500gb ssd
Also the only reason i have the Realm of lorkhan on is because when i tried the vanilla start for whatever reason i spawned outside the wagon therefore not being able to continue :/

[Tonystarman]

Hmm...that kind of hard to explain but do you have too many mod enabled!? If so then it could crash your game mostly often.

And sorry if this doesn't help...try to add less mods on your game because when you add too many your game will auto close out or possibly crashed.

Try to use Vortex and LOOT to see there any issues on it as well. If you don't have Vortex or Loot then you might of need them as recommend!

Like I said Sorry if this doesn't help you problem. since I tried to help.

[Tikka]

Could be conflicts, could be that particular mod, if its that particular mod best way to see would be to test it on another load screen but due to the cart problem you can't so maybe the most efficient way to test would be try another mod that changes the start. Alternative start - live another life is always reliable and has multiple ways to begin your skyrim journey, if you crash loading in with that too you know its a deeper problem than just lorkan

[✪ Rizz]

Originally posted by Tikka:

Could be conflicts, could be that particular mod, if its that particular mod best way to see would be to test it on another load screen but due to the cart problem you can't so maybe the most efficient way to test would be try another mod that changes the start. Alternative start - live another life is always reliable and has multiple ways to begin your skyrim journey, if you crash loading in with that too you know its a deeper problem than just lorkan

I'm going to try to remove all my mods, than make a save right before the character creation screen and then turn them all back on to make my character, I'm hoping that'll fix it. Iv ran my load order through loot and loot has no issues or detected problems. After the first 50 or 60 mods I started added only one or two at a time and tested each by loading the game, that realm of lorkhan was also the last mod I put on

[Tikka]

Originally posted by ✪ Deja Vu:

Originally posted by Tikka:

Could be conflicts, could be that particular mod, if its that particular mod best way to see would be to test it on another load screen but due to the cart problem you can't so maybe the most efficient way to test would be try another mod that changes the start. Alternative start - live another life is always reliable and has multiple ways to begin your skyrim journey, if you crash loading in with that too you know its a deeper problem than just lorkan

I'm going to try to remove all my mods, than make a save right before the character creation screen and then turn them all back on to make my character, I'm hoping that'll fix it. Iv ran my load order through loot and loot has no issues or detected problems. After the first 50 or 60 mods I started added only one or two at a time and tested each by loading the game, that realm of lorkhan was also the last mod I put on

Probably the smart thing to do, I personally use the life another life mod for starts as it gives you a fair few options on how and where to start your game especially for some good role-playing characters. Hopefully getting to character creation fixes your problems!

[✪ Rizz]

Originally posted by Tikka:

Originally posted by ✪ Deja Vu:

I'm going to try to remove all my mods, than make a save right before the character creation screen and then turn them all back on to make my character, I'm hoping that'll fix it. Iv ran my load order through loot and loot has no issues or detected problems. After the first 50 or 60 mods I started added only one or two at a time and tested each by loading the game, that realm of lorkhan was also the last mod I put on

Probably the smart thing to do, I personally use the life another life mod for starts as it gives you a fair few options on how and where to start your game especially for some good role-playing characters. Hopefully getting to character creation fixes your problems!

So if made some little progress, I think it was because I have the entire Daggerfall game on as a mod, and when its active you spawn in daggerfall before tamerial, therefore when I was leaving then realm of lorkhan it was trying to send me to daggerfall but I was trying to force my character to spawn in skyrim. It could be that, I have to finish the daggerfall game first and wait until I'm back in skyrim to test it, my game works fine as long as I'm in daggerfall.. I also made a save as a prisoner before the character creation screen, and for some reason my race is stuck as a nord and cant be changed. Is this caused by legacy of the dragon born? And if I try to open my world map in tamerial it crashes, but can open it done when I'm in the daggerfall mod

[Tikka]

Originally posted by ✪ Deja Vu:

Originally posted by Tikka:

Probably the smart thing to do, I personally use the life another life mod for starts as it gives you a fair few options on how and where to start your game especially for some good role-playing characters. Hopefully getting to character creation fixes your problems!

So if made some little progress, I think it was because I have the entire Daggerfall game on as a mod, and when its active you spawn in daggerfall before tamerial, therefore when I was leaving then realm of lorkhan it was trying to send me to daggerfall but I was trying to force my character to spawn in skyrim. It could be that, I have to finish the daggerfall game first and wait until I'm back in skyrim to test it, my game works fine as long as I'm in daggerfall.. I also made a save as a prisoner before the character creation screen, and for some reason my race is stuck as a nord and cant be changed. Is this caused by legacy of the dragon born? And if I try to open my world map in tamerial it crashes, but can open it done when I'm in the daggerfall mod

I literally don't have a clue for that, your start up is pretty heavy with the daggerfall and the new start mods etc so it sounds chaotic to try get it all in working, hopefully you can find a resolution though

[✪ Rizz]

Originally posted by Hunterofprograms00:

Hmm...that kind of hard to explain but do you have too many mod enabled!? If so then it could crash your game mostly often.

And sorry if this doesn't help...try to add less mods on your game because when you add too many your game will auto close out or possibly crashed.

Try to use Vortex and LOOT to see there any issues on it as well. If you don't have Vortex or Loot then you might of need them as recommend!

Like I said Sorry if this doesn't help you problem. since I tried to help.

I took off Realm of lorkhan and it seems to be working. I also have every new world space/new lands mods too. I also noticed that im missing a couple small mods, (shout perks and a unarmed still tree with perks). This is my entire load order copied directly from LOOT
0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
254 FE 0 ccbgssse057-ba_stalhrim.esl
5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
6 6 BSAssets.esm
7 7 LegacyoftheDragonborn.esm
8 8 RT_Morrowind.esm
9 9 PiratesNorth.esp
10 a ShumerWorld.esm
11 b ShumerNWa.esp
12 c rochester.esm
13 d DA_Skyship.esm
14 e Black Marsh.esm
15 f BSHeartland.esm
16 10 arnima.esm
17 11 HammetDungeons.esm
18 12 ERF - Kerrigan.esm
19 13 RaceCompatibility.esm
20 14 SC_Drow Race.esm
21 15 SkyrimBordersDisabled.esm
22 16 Snow_Elf_Race.esm
23 17 Highrock.esp
24 18 BosmerArmorMATY743.esm
25 19 BS_DLC_patch.esp
26 1a Deep_Elf_Race.esm
27 1b Campfire.esm
28 1c Falskaar.esm
29 1d Daggerfall.esp
30 1e Midwood Isle.esp
31 1f Phoe.esm
32 20 Gray Fox Cowl.esm
33 21 SkyUI_SE.esp
34 22 Vivid WeathersSE.esp
35 23 Black Marsh North.esp
36 24 nile.esp
37 25 MoonAndStar_MAS.esp
38 26 Undeath.esp
39 27 Cutting Room Floor.esp
40 28 Wintersun - Faiths of Skyrim.esp
41 29 RLO - Interiors.esp
42 2a CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp
43 2b TheBawbsShire.esp
44 2c Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.esp
45 2d RT_Morrowind.esp
46 2e Lothbruk Village.esp
47 2f Vominheim.esp
48 30 Helgen Reborn.esp
49 31 RLO - Exteriors.esp
50 32 DragonStar.esp
51 33 moonpath.esp
52 34 JRMoonpathtoElsweyrPatch.esp
53 35 SPTConsistentOlderPeopleSE.esp
54 36 OpulentOutfits_2017-SSE AIO.esp
55 37 AKSkyrimUnderground.esp
56 38 The Haven From The Cold And Dark.esp
57 39 Cloaks.esp
58 3a SL01AmuletsSkyrim.esp
59 3b Dwarfsphere.esp
60 3c Artifacts.esp
254 FE 1 DBM_HelgenReborn_Patch.esp
61 3d WZOblivionArtifacts.esp
254 FE 2 DBM_OblivionArtifacts_Patch.esp
62 3e Clockwork.esp
63 3f Winterhold Restored.esp
64 40 Arcanum.esp
65 41 Valenwood.esp
66 42 minotaurplayable.esp
67 43 Ars Metallica.esp
68 44 ShoutPerks.esp
69 45 BetterUnarmedPerks.esp
70 46 Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
71 47 Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp
72 48 Dwemer Race.esp
73 49 DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp
74 4a MorePlayableRaces.esp
254 FE 3 DBM_AHO_Patch.esp
75 4b Worldtree.esp
76 4c konahrik_accoutrements.esp
77 4d Hardrock.esp
78 4e TheIsland.esp
79 4f Folkvangr.esp
80 50 Tools of Kagrenac.esp
81 51 MiraakFollower.esp
254 FE 4 DBM_TOK_Patch.esp
82 52 Phenderix Magic World.esp
83 53 111KevinVanNordIsland.esp
84 54 The Asteria Dwemer Airship.esp
254 FE 5 DBM_CRF_Patch.esp
254 FE 6 Wintersun - Balance Tweaks.esp
85 55 Undeath Ascension.esp
86 56 Undeath Immersive Lichdom.esp
254 FE 7 DBM_MAS_Patch.esp
254 FE 8 DBM_Undeath_Patch.esp
254 FE 9 CWIOOSEPatchAIO.esp
87 57 ForgottenCity.esp
88 58 WheelsOfLull.esp
254 FE a DBM_Falskaar_Patch.esp
254 FE b DBM_ImmersiveCollegeofWinterhold_Patch.esp
89 59 Dorchadas.esp
254 FE c DBM_SkyrimUnderground_Patch.esp
90 5a magic of the magna-ge.esp
91 5b bhabhilon.esp
92 5c The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
93 5d Darkend.esp
94 5e FC02.esp
95 5f AetheriumSwordsnArmor.esp
254 FE d mihailesocenturion.esp
96 60 Deep_Elf_Extra_Automatons.esp
254 FE e DBM_AetheriumWeapons_Patch.esp
254 FE f DBM_Wintersun_Patch.esp
254 FE 10 DBM_KA_Patch.esp
97 61 Darkglade.esp
254 FE 11 Wintersun - USSEP Patch.esp
254 FE 12 DBM_BeyondReach_Patch.esp
254 FE 13 DBM_CloaksofSkyrim_Patch.esp
254 FE 14 DBM_AmuletsOfSkyrim_Patch.esp
254 FE 15 DBM_TheGrayCowlofNocturnal_Patch.esp
254 FE 16 DBM_ArtifactsofSkyrim_Patch.esp
254 FE 17 DBM_Clockwork_Patch.esp
98 62 ktWeaponPackSE.esp
254 FE 18 DBM_WheelsofLull_Patch.esp
254 FE 19 DBM_DevAvezaAirship_Patch.esp
99 63 BVLT - Deep Elf.esp
100 64 TimeAndSpace.esp
254 FE 1a DBM_ktWeaponPackSE_Patch.esp
254 FE 1b DBM_ForgottenCity_Patch.esp
254 FE 1c DBM_Moonpath_Patch.esp
101 65 Spectral Horse.esp
102 66 Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp
103 67 Apocalypse - Cheat Chests.esp
104 68 Indoril_Armor.esp
105 69 Neverend.esp
106 6a RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp
107 6b RLO - Effects.esp
108 6c Daggerfall - Update.esp
109 6d BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
110 6e Snow_Elf_Race_No_IVG_Smithing_Start.esp
254 FE 1d TOK_AetheriumWeapons_Patch.esp
111 6f SGEyebrows.esp
112 70 UnreadBooksGlow.esp
113 71 Vivid Weathers SE - Bruma Patch.esp
114 72 Vivid Weathers SE - Classic.esp
115 73 Vivid Weathers SE - Falskaar.esp
116 74 Deep_Elf_Nubbin_Mode.esp
117 75 HighrocklandmassEdited.esp
118 76 FNIS.esp
119 77 RaceMenu.esp
120 78 XPMSE.esp
121 79 RaceMenuPlugin.esp
122 7a StaffOfSheogorath.esp
254 FE 1e CWICRFSEPatch.esp
254 FE 1f WheelsofLull-Skyship.esp
254 FE 20 DBM_StaffofSheogorath_Patch.esp
254 FE 21 WoLPatch-DBM.esp
254 FE 22 DBM_ArsMetallica_Patch.esp
254 FE 23 DBM_UnreadBooksGlow_Patch.esp
254 FE 24 WheelsOfLull - Forgotten City - Bruma Patch.esp
123 7b RLO - Illuminated Spells.esp
124 7c RLO - CRF Patch.esp
125 7d Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp
126 7e Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
127 7f Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp
128 80 Deep_Elf_Ordinator_Patch.esp
254 FE 25 Ordinator - Beyond Skyrim Bruma Patch.esp
254 FE 26 CWIOrdinatorPatchSSE.esp

[✪ Rizz]

Originally posted by Tikka:

Originally posted by ✪ Deja Vu:

So if made some little progress, I think it was because I have the entire Daggerfall game on as a mod, and when its active you spawn in daggerfall before tamerial, therefore when I was leaving then realm of lorkhan it was trying to send me to daggerfall but I was trying to force my character to spawn in skyrim. It could be that, I have to finish the daggerfall game first and wait until I'm back in skyrim to test it, my game works fine as long as I'm in daggerfall.. I also made a save as a prisoner before the character creation screen, and for some reason my race is stuck as a nord and cant be changed. Is this caused by legacy of the dragon born? And if I try to open my world map in tamerial it crashes, but can open it done when I'm in the daggerfall mod

I literally don't have a clue for that, your start up is pretty heavy with the daggerfall and the new start mods etc so it sounds chaotic to try get it all in working, hopefully you can find a resolution though

The mod forcing me to start as a nord is Beyond Reach. I took off all new world spaces from my game and it seems to be running perfect, so for the last 2 days iv just been added one at a time to see what it effects and causes crashes. Beyond Reach is still playable, I can easily use the command ShowRaceMenu when i leave helgen so i can still use it. But kinda worried it maybe affecting more then just the race that i know of. Now idea why reach is doing that, went back to the mod page and i dont seem to be missing anything.. UPDATE: Turns out the realm of lorkhan alt start with the daggerfall comp patch, and removing TR_Morrowind. Everything seemed to fix itself, no games crashes, map works, can pick my race right in the creation screen.. Yet everything else works