Khajiit Caravans stuck at one city

[Nebiros]

An annoying bug, where one or more of the caravans stops moving around and just stays at one city.

In my case, it's Ma'dran's caravan stuck at Solitude, never moving to Windhelm.
On top of that, they haven't pitched their tents either and are just standing around in the shrubs.

People have mentioned before to wait one hour inside a building and it will reset them, but that hasn't worked for me.

Anyone have some suggestions?

[alexander_dougherty]

How long have they been there?, because a caravan will sit tight for a few days before moving on.

About the only way I can think of moving them on, would be to open the command console, click on them one by one and type Disable (followed by hitting the enter key) then enable (followed by hitting the enter key). This should reset any routines and get them moving on, i think.

[Nebiros]

Originally posted by Toast:

Sounds pretty conveniant to me... Personally, I wish they'd just stay in front of Whiterun all the time.

I'm sorry but I don't know how to fix it.

I mean i guess it is convenient in a way, but for me it isn't because:

I don't fast travel much, so im not just gonna teleport to Solitude whenever i need to sell sh/it.
And it's annoying when i'm around Windhelm and don't get that extra batch of merchants to use.

[Nebiros]

Originally posted by alexander_dougherty:

How long have they been there?, because a caravan will sit tight for a few days before moving on.

About the only way I can think of moving them on, would be to open the command console, click on them one by one and type Disable (followed by hitting the enter key) then enable (followed by hitting the enter key). This should reset any routines and get them moving on, i think.

They've been there for a long time now, I think it had started happening a little bit before i transferred my save over from original Skyrim to Special Edition, so it's pretty clear that it's bugging out and they're not moving.

I might try disabling and re-enabling them, but i often find using console commands a little risky so i'll probably keep a spare save left behind for when i do it.
I'll give that a go anyway. Not sure if it'll change whether or not they set up camp though.

[alexander_dougherty]

Originally posted by Nebiros:

Originally posted by alexander_dougherty:

How long have they been there?, because a caravan will sit tight for a few days before moving on.

About the only way I can think of moving them on, would be to open the command console, click on them one by one and type Disable (followed by hitting the enter key) then enable (followed by hitting the enter key). This should reset any routines and get them moving on, i think.

They've been there for a long time now, I think it had started happening a little bit before i transferred my save over from original Skyrim to Special Edition, so it's pretty clear that it's bugging out and they're not moving.

I might try disabling and re-enabling them, but i often find using console commands a little risky so i'll probably keep a spare save left behind for when i do it.
I'll give that a go anyway. Not sure if it'll change whether or not they set up camp though.

I leave console commands as a last resort myself, but that's all I could think of, and the disable-enable trick does seem to be less risky than some others I've had to use before, but having said that, it doesn't always do anything.

Oh well, good luck.

[Delta 1038]

What are your active quests?

[cfs111]

Is this a save that was originally made on oldrim and you are using it on se? If so, did you have any mods in oldrim?

[Nebiros]

Originally posted by Delta 1038:

What are your active quests?

In the middle of Dawnguard questline, Gauldur's quest, have a few miscellaneous ones here and there as well, then Dragonborn and Imperial Legion questlines have been shoehorned in.

But i don't think it really matters, the issue had started ages ago so my currently active quests are hardly going to be relevant.

[Nebiros]

Originally posted by cfs111:

Is this a save that was originally made on oldrim and you are using it on se? If so, did you have any mods in oldrim?

Yes, i originally made this guy at some point last year then ported him over to Special Edition.
I DID have SOME mods, but no where near as many as most people do. Just a few little ones like the Paarthunax dilemma, Clear Waters, and some other fairly minor mods that change a few nitpicking things.

The mods did cause an issue in the transfer though, but that was resolved simply by making sure my save in old Skyrim was done from inside a building before trying to load it in Special Edition.

[Nebiros]

Originally posted by 765654751476:

Originally posted by Nebiros:

...just standing around in the shrubs.

As soon as I pictured this in my head and your reaction, I couldn't stop laughing...

Anyway, I had this bug a few times but the Khajiit always end up leaving eventually so not sure how to fix it.

This how you imagined it?
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198039741155/screenshot/836952465877469010

[cfs111]

Try this set of console commands to fully reset skyrim
Make a backup save then try this;

coc qasmoke

once you load in (Note about this area if you are unfamiliar with it, some of the chests here have a huge amount of items in them and can lock up older systems) disable any mods you can in the MCM. Wait a couple of minutes then hardsave. Exit the game completely, not just to the main menu. Restart and load the save then in the console;

settimescale to 9000
exit the console and wait 5-6 minutes to allow Skyrim to respawn. Best to walk away from the computer, take a walk, make a sandwich...

set timescale to 20 (or whatever you play it at.)
Wait a couple of minutes to allow things to settle.

coc whiterun
Fast travel anywhere to insure all scripts that need to be running are.

[gasoliner68]

I got the same problem!
In my case Ahkaris Caravan stucks in Dawnstar and they won't build up their tents and never move to Riften. The others Caravans are fine.
I tried everything i could think of and absolutly nothing helped!
I also tried with attacking skeletons and Ahkari died.
With Zaynabi in charge it's still the same - NO TENTS and they DON'T MOVE TO ANOTHER CITY!
I don't know what went wrong, but when i load a very first Save "after escape of Helgen" the caravans are okay!
Is there really no solution?

[Nebiros]

Yeah in my case Akhari's caravan won't move to Riften either, but they at least have their tents set up and move around in the camp normally.

I still haven't been able to fix it for mine and honestly I can't be bothered with any workarounds if they require too much fiddling with console or whatnot.

[qruk]

Guys, seems i found a solution :D
That is happening bcse script "CaravanScript" usually bugs if caravan was in Whiterun/Windhelm/Solitude while city was attacked (Civil War quest). So we have to change necessary values by ourselves to fix it.

Firstly, u should understand, how it sh*t works. Caravan wont move if Leader of caravan is "3dLoaded", what means that player is around caravan. So, before u start using console commands, just try to wait 24 hours inside city and check caravan again.

If it isnt helping, there is only one way for u:
A - Risaad's caravan, B - Madran's caravan, C - Ahcari's caravan

0. Make hardsave
1. Open console (~)
2. Make diabled bugged caravan's tents in both cities (even if they are already disabled, just in case)

A:
prid 0010372F
disable
prid 001030E2
disable

B:
prid 00104AD6
disable
prid 00103774
disable

C:
prid 0010311B
disable
prid 0010332A
disable

3. Switch global value CaravanIsCamped to 0 (its binary value)

A:
set CaravanIsCampedA to 0

B:
set CaravanIsCampedB to 0

C:
set CaravanIsCampedC to 0

4. Get caravan a new campsite (select only one for each caravan)

A:
set CaravanLocationA to 0 - Risaad's caravan should go to Whiterun from Markarth
set CaravanLocationA to 1 - Risaad's caravan should go to Markarth from Whiterun

B:
set CaravanLocationB to 0 - Madran's caravan should go to Solitude from Windhelm
set CaravanLocationB to 1 - Madran's caravan should go to Windhelm from Solitude

C:
set CaravanLocationC to 0 - Ahcari's caravan should go to Riften from Dawnstar
set CaravanLocationC to 1 - Ahcari's caravan should go to Dawnstar from Riften

5. If they wont move instanly, wait inside city 24 hours to restart srypt for Leader

6. Enjoy the game ;)

P.S Could u please send report about that bug to USSEP's team so they pay attention to it?
My English is not very perfect and it's complicated and time-consuming for me to write large amounts of text :C

[Nebiros]

Cheers for the tip, i'll give it a try next time.

Although i'm not entirely sure if it'll work since they were bugged before i began any civil war related quests if that's what you're thinking caused the bug.

Regardless thanks anyway

[gasoliner68]

Originally posted by qruk:

Guys, seems i found a solution :D
That is happening bcse script "CaravanScript" usually bugs if caravan was in Whiterun/Windhelm/Solitude while city was attacked (Civil War quest). So we have to change necessary values by ourselves to fix it.

Firstly, u should understand, how it sh*t works. Caravan wont move if Leader of caravan is "3dLoaded", what means that player is around caravan. So, before u start using console commands, just try to wait 24 hours inside city and check caravan again.

If it isnt helping, there is only one way for u:
A - Risaad's caravan, B - Madran's caravan, C - Ahcari's caravan

0. Make hardsave
1. Open console (~)
2. Make diabled bugged caravan's tents in both cities (even if they are already disabled, just in case)

A:
prid 0010372F
disable
prid 001030E2
disable

B:
prid 00104AD6
disable
prid 00103774
disable

C:
prid 0010311B
disable
prid 0010332A
disable

3. Switch global value CaravanIsCamped to 0 (its binary value)

A:
set CaravanIsCampedA to 0

B:
set CaravanIsCampedB to 0

C:
set CaravanIsCampedC to 0

4. Get caravan a new campsite (select only one for each caravan)

A:
set CaravanLocationA to 0 - Risaad's caravan should go to Whiterun from Markarth
set CaravanLocationA to 1 - Risaad's caravan should go to Markarth from Whiterun

B:
set CaravanLocationB to 0 - Madran's caravan should go to Solitude from Windhelm
set CaravanLocationB to 1 - Madran's caravan should go to Windhelm from Solitude

C:
set CaravanLocationC to 0 - Ahcari's caravan should go to Riften from Dawnstar
set CaravanLocationC to 1 - Ahcari's caravan should go to Dawnstar from Riften

5. If they wont move instanly, wait inside city 24 hours to restart srypt for Leader

6. Enjoy the game ;)

P.S Could u please send report about that bug to USSEP's team so they pay attention to it?
My English is not very perfect and it's complicated and time-consuming for me to write large amounts of text :C