The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Special Edition

The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Special Edition

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KatyaAnya04 Dec 28, 2019 @ 4:31pm
HELP! CTDs and missing plugins.
Ok so I am losing my mind and I need help. Two days ago I opened skyrim, super excited to play with the new Legacy V5 update. I've been waiting over a year for the update to finally release. I opened the game and it ran just fine but I noticed one of my bethesda mods wasn't working. So I exited my save and went to enable it and a few other bethesda.net mods that weren't enabled. I left the game and went to make sure I hadn't just enabled something I already had enabled through Nexus. After checking Vortex I saw that a few of my other mods on Nexus weren't enabled. So I enabled them then sorted my load order through LOOT. (only realized today that Vortex does that already). I entered my game and it said several of my plugins that had just been working just fine were disabled. So I exited the game and enabled them. I returned to the game to get another pop up saying even more plugins had been disabled. I went to vortex and saw they were all still enabled. I went back to the game and enabled them through the in game load order through Bethesda. This caused my game to crash. I then tried to open it several more times and got an instant CTD after the bethesda logo each time. So I went and sorted my load order again, checked for conflicts, used Xedit to clean things up, reinstalled and even removed each mod one by one to see if I could get the game to work. Still instant CTDs. I was informed by someone that I had missing masters. So I went and resolved that. The game loaded up this time but my plugins are still disabling even though Vortex says they are still enabled. I need help. I am so sick of trying to figure this out.


my load order: (sorry it is super long)
0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
254 FE 0 ccbgssse002-exoticarrows.esl
254 FE 1 ccbgssse004-ruinsedge.esl
254 FE 2 ccbgssse006-stendarshammer.esl
254 FE 3 ccbgssse007-chrysamere.esl
254 FE 4 ccbgssse010-petdwarvenarmoredmudcrab.esl
254 FE 5 ccbgssse014-spellpack01.esl
254 FE 6 ccbgssse019-staffofsheogorath.esl
254 FE 7 ccbgssse020-graycowl.esl
254 FE 8 ccbgssse021-lordsmail.esl
254 FE 9 ccmtysse001-knightsofthenine.esl
254 FE a ccbgssse035-petnhound.esl
254 FE b ccbgssse037-curios.esl
254 FE c ccbgssse045-hasedoki.esl
254 FE d ccbgssse043-crosselv.esl
254 FE e cceejsse003-hollow.esl
5 5 ccbgssse016-umbra.esm
6 6 ccbgssse031-advcyrus.esm
254 FE f ccbgssse040-advobgobs.esl
254 FE 10 ccbgssse058-ba_steel.esl
254 FE 11 ccpewsse002-armsofchaos.esl
254 FE 12 ccbgssse041-netchleather.esl
254 FE 13 ccedhsse002-splkntset.esl
254 FE 14 ccbgssse064-ba_elven.esl
254 FE 15 ccbgssse063-ba_ebony.esl
254 FE 16 ccbgssse062-ba_dwarvenmail.esl
254 FE 17 ccbgssse060-ba_dragonscale.esl
254 FE 18 ccbgssse051-ba_daedricmail.esl
254 FE 19 ccbgssse057-ba_stalhrim.esl
254 FE 1a ccffbsse002-crossbowpack.esl
254 FE 1b ccbgssse013-dawnfang.esl
7 7 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
8 8 BSAssets.esm
9 9 BSHeartland.esm
10 a BS_DLC_patch.esp
11 b ApachiiHair.esm
12 c ApachiiHairFemales.esm
13 d LegacyoftheDragonborn.esm
14 e Unique Flowers & Plants.esm
15 f arnima.esm
16 10 Campfire.esm
17 11 Falskaar.esm
18 12 JSwordsD.esm
19 13 Vigilant.esm
20 14 Gray Fox Cowl.esm
21 15 AK - Placeable Statics SE.esp
22 16 JRSpellPackPatch.esp
254 FE 1c Qw_BeyondReach_USSEP Patch.esp
254 FE 1d Qw_BeyondSkyrimBruma_USSEP Hotfix Patch.esp
23 17 SMIM-SE-DragonbornTernFix.esp
24 18 SMIM-SE-FarmhouseFlickeringFix.esp
25 19 SMIM-SE-ShackRoofFixes.esp
26 1a SMIM-SE-RiftenDocksRopesObjectFix.esp
27 1b SMIM-SE-ShackRoofFixesDragonborn.esp
28 1c SMIM-SE-SolitudeDocksFixes.esp
29 1d SkyUI_SE.esp
30 1e iNeed.esp
31 1f iNeed - Extended.esp
32 20 Cutting Room Floor.esp
Tel_Nalta.esp
33 21 Book Covers Skyrim.esp
34 22 MoonAndStar_MAS.esp
35 23 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
36 24 Cloaks.esp
37 25 konahrik_accoutrements.esp
38 26 Gildergreen Regrown.esp
39 27 1nivWICCloaks.esp
40 28 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
41 29 dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp
42 2a Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
43 2b Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
254 FE 1e Qw_CloaksOfSkyrim_USSEP Patch.esp
44 2c Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp
45 2d LostTreasures.esp
46 2e Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp
47 2f JKs Skyrim.esp
48 30 magicalcollegeofwinterhold.esp
49 31 Immersive Jewelry.esp
50 32 ProudspiremanorTNFBP.esp
51 33 Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.esp
AllBooksHavePerks.esp
52 34 HearthfireMultiKid.esp
53 35 HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp
54 36 unreadbooksglow.esp
55 37 Audiobooks of Skyrim.esp
DBM_RSChildren.esp
56 38 Lakeview_Extended.esp
57 39 Beasts of Tamriel.esp
58 3a Helgen Reborn.esp
59 3b Extended Character Creation Options.esp
60 3c OpulentThievesGuild.esp
61 3d DIVERSE SKYRIM.esp
62 3e OBIS SE.esp
63 3f mrbs-uniqueloot-se.esp
64 40 The Hunting Game.esp
65 41 Realistic and Balanced Horses.esp
66 42 goodbrother.esp
67 43 Marriage_All.esp
68 44 skyBirds_SSE.esp
69 45 BirdsOfSkyrim_SSE.esp
70 46 moonpath.esp
71 47 JRMoonpathtoElsweyrPatch.esp
72 48 I5K Treasure Hunt.esp
73 49 Holidays.esp
74 4a FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp
254 FE 1f JKs Skyrim_Holidays_Patch.esp
75 4b SPTConsistentOlderPeopleSE.esp
OpulentOutfits_2017-SSE AIO.esp
76 4c ZIA_Complete Pack.esp
77 4d TKAA.esp
78 4e se_haste.esp
79 4f AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
80 50 Immersive Weapons.esp
81 51 Guards_Armor_Replacer.esp
82 52 AKSkyrimUnderground.esp
83 53 Serenity.esp
84 54 SkyrimsUniqueTreasures.esp
85 55 Wintersun - Faiths of Skyrim.esp
86 56 BirdsAndFlocks_SSE.esp
87 57 CowHerdsOfSkyrim.esp
88 58 PrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp
89 59 Keep It Clean.esp
90 5a HeljarchenFarm.esp
91 5b SL01AmuletsSkyrim.esp
92 5c LvxMagicksFactionBooks-Morebooks Please2.5.esp
254 FE 20 BSHeartland - Unofficial Patch.esp
93 5d MDWanngarnanngin.esp
94 5e Lakeview_Extended_Basement.esp
95 5f Dwarfsphere.esp
96 60 Artifacts.esp
97 61 Character Creation Overhaul.esp
98 62 More idle markers.esp
99 63 ajd_dommorepotentialmarriagecands_sse_pc.esp
254 FE 21 DBM_GuardsArmorReplacer_Patch.esp
254 FE 22 DBM_HelgenReborn_Patch.esp
100 64 Clockwork.esp
101 65 Mystic Condenser.esp
102 66 HearthFire Display Case Fix.esp
103 67 Trees in Cities.esp
104 68 Underwater_Treasure.esp
105 69 DivineCloaks.esp
106 6a Immersive Patrols II.esp
107 6b WZOblivionArtifacts.esp
108 6c Heljarchen Trophy Entryway.esp
109 6d BGCollectables.esp
110 6e Legendary Artifacts.esp
111 6f DaedricCloaks.esp
112 70 NarrativeLoot Complete.esp
113 71 VisualAnimatedEnchants.esp
254 FE 23 DBM_ImmersiveJewelry_Patch.esp
114 72 ImprovedDaedricArtifacts.esp
DBM_Artificer_Patch.esp
115 73 DawnguardArsenal.esp
116 74 Ars Metallica.esp
117 75 Frostfall.esp
254 FE 24 DBM_Vigilant_Patch.esp
118 76 Hold Riders.esp
119 77 Windstad Trophy Entryway.esp
120 78 Vigilant.esp
121 79 Vigilant Voiced.esp
122 7a Fossilsyum.esp
123 7b Tools of Kagrenac.esp
254 FE 25 DBM_AHO_Patch.esp
254 FE 26 DBM_IW_Patch.esp
124 7c Lakeview Trophy Entryway.esp
125 7d DoubleBedsAreForTwoPeople.esp
126 7e CCO - Permanent Birthsigns.esp
127 7f Hotsprings of Skyrim.esp
128 80 Saltdeposits.esp
129 81 Phenderix Magic Evolved.esp
130 82 gonkishvampdens.esp
131 83 CandyShopsRiftenD.esp
132 84 CandyShopsSolitude.esp
254 FE 27 DBM_TOK_Patch.esp
254 FE 28 DBM_JKSkyrim_Patch.esp
133 85 DarkBrotherhoodMotivations.esp
DBM_VigilantPatch.esp
134 86 AetheriumSwordsnArmor.esp
135 87 AllThievesGuildJobsConcurrently.esp
136 88 AMatterOfTime.esp
254 FE 29 DBM_AetheriumWeapons_Patch.esp
254 FE 2a JKs Skyrim_Clockwork_Patch.esp
137 89 PatronGodsOfSkyrim.esp
138 8a notice board.esp
254 FE 2b DBM_BeyondReach_Patch.esp
254 FE 2c DBM_NarrativeLoot_Patch.esp
139 8b AMX_TelvanniSpellsword.esp
140 8c SolitudeTempleFrescoes.esp
141 8d BooksBooksBooks.esp
254 FE 2d DBM_OblivionArtifacts_Patch.esp
254 FE 2e DBM_MAS_Patch.esp
142 8e MWGardens.esp
143 8f DBM_UniqueLoot_Patch.esp
254 FE 2f DBM_BBB_Patch.esp
254 FE 30 DBM_ZimsThaneWeapons_Patch.esp
254 FE 31 DBM_CloaksofSkyrim_Patch.esp
144 90 CandyShopsWhiterun.esp
145 91 CollectBonesAndScales.esp
146 92 ForgottenCity.esp
147 93 WheelsOfLull.esp
254 FE 32 DBM_Falskaar_Patch.esp
254 FE 33 DBM_SkyrimUnderground_Patch.esp
148 94 CandyShopsMarkarth.esp
254 FE 34 DBM_NoticeBoard_Patch.esp
149 95 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
150 96 HoldBorderBanners.esp
151 97 BooksOfSkyrim.esp
HouseWaterPumps_RND.esp
254 FE 35 BSHeartland - Arnima Patch.esp
152 98 Imperial Post.esp
153 99 PaladinArtifactsAndArmor.esp
154 9a Khajiiteverywhere.esp
155 9b ArtifactsOfBoethiah.esp
254 FE 36 DBM_KA_Patch.esp
254 FE 37 DBM_TheGrayCowlofNocturnal_Patch.esp
254 FE 38 DBM_ArtifactsofBoethiah_Patch.esp
254 FE 39 DBM_iNeed_Patch.esp
254 FE 3a DBM_SUT_Patch.esp
254 FE 3b DBM_WheelsofLull_Patch.esp
156 9c Coldhaven.esp
157 9d Ravengate.esp
158 9e Whispers of Words.esp
159 9f pedsplayermannakinsfemale.esp
Dawnguard&VolkiharArtifactsQuests.esp
160 a0 ApachiiHelmetWigs.esp
161 a1 CCO - Diverse Races And Genders.esp
162 a2 CCO - Dynamic Skill Progression.esp
163 a3 CCO - Oblivion Carry Weights.esp
164 a4 ColovianNobleClothes.esp
165 a5 CowHerdsOfSkyrim TKAA Patch.esp
166 a6 Craftable Ultimate Potions.esp
167 a7 CraftableBloodPotions.esp
168 a8 DBRewards.esp
ECCO - Extended Slider Colors Patch.esp
169 a9 FaceSculptorsRacemenu.esp
170 aa Fixed body collision.esp
171 ab Mystic Condenser - USSEP Patch.esp
172 ac GetBothRewardsSeries.esp
173 ad Hearthfire Shrines Expanded.esp
174 ae HRElegantGown.esp
175 af ImperialFineClothes.esp
176 b0 Invisibility.esp
177 b1 JS Armored Circlets SE.esp
178 b2 Keep It Clean - Falskaar patch.esp
179 b3 MenusOfSkyrimAlduinDoom.esp
180 b4 more plants all extra.esp
181 b5 MountsInventory.esp
182 b6 NameYourHorse.esp
183 b7 PrvtIRoyalArmory.esp
184 b8 sirwho_Wizard_Hat.esp
185 b9 SmithingOils.esp
186 ba SolitudeTempleFrescoesBig.esp
187 bb SolitudeTempleFrescoesExpanded.esp
188 bc SolitudeTempleFrescoesSmall.esp
189 bd SummonsReleveled.esp
190 be TakeNotes.esp
191 bf TavernGames.esp
192 c0 TelvanniRobes.esp
Unique Uniques.esp
193 c1 Waterwalking Ring.esp
254 FE 3c Wintersun - BCS Patch.esp
254 FE 3d Wintersun - LotD Patch.esp
254 FE 3e Wintersun - ZIA Patch.esp
194 c2 WondersofWeather.esp
195 c3 zz_GDRAHoods.esp
196 c4 AK- Namira for Good Guys.esp
197 c5 CuyiPriestHoods.esp
254 FE 3f DBM_ArtifactsofSkyrim_Patch.esp
198 c6 DBM_Artifacts_Patch.esp
199 c7 DBM_ImmersiveCreatures_Patch.esp
DBM_Cloaks_Patch.esp
254 FE 40 DBM_ForgottenCity_Patch.esp
254 FE 41 DBM_AmuletsOfSkyrim_Patch.esp
254 FE 42 DBM_BGCollectables_Patch.esp
254 FE 43 DBM_RoyalArmory_Patch.esp
254 FE 44 DBM_IA_Patch.esp
254 FE 45 DBM_Apophysis_Patch.esp
254 FE 46 DBM_ArsMetallica_Patch.esp
254 FE 47 DBM_Clockwork_Patch.esp
254 FE 48 DBM_DaedricCloaks_Patch.esp
254 FE 49 DBM_DBGG_Patch.esp
254 FE 4a Wintersun - USSEP Patch.esp
254 FE 4b DBM_HA_Patch.esp
200 c8 RuinsEdge.esp
201 c9 StaffOfSheogorath.esp
254 FE 4c DBM_StaffofSheogorath_Patch.esp
254 FE 4d DBM_DGA_Patch.esp
254 FE 4e DBM_Fossils_Patch.esp
254 FE 4f DBM_ImprovedDaedricArtifacts_Patch.esp
254 FE 50 DBM_RuinsEdge_Patch.esp
254 FE 51 DBM_JaysusSwords_Patch.esp
202 ca NarrativeLoot Complete - Keep It Clean.esp
254 FE 52 DBM_KeepitClean_Patch.esp
254 FE 53 DBM_LegendaryArtifacts_Patch.esp
254 FE 54 DBM_Moonpath_Patch.esp
254 FE 55 DBM_MysticCondenser_Patch.esp
254 FE 56 DBM_Namira_Patch.esp
254 FE 57 DBM_OBIS_Patch.esp
254 FE 58 DBM_Serenity_Patch.esp
254 FE 59 DBM_TreesinCities_Patch.esp
254 FE 5a DBM_Wintersun_Patch.esp
254 FE 5b DBM_ZimsImmersiveArtifacts_Patch.esp
203 cb EBT - IC PATCH.esp
204 cc EBT - skyBirds Patch (mid).esp
205 cd ForgottenCity TKAA Patch.esp
254 FE 5c Inn Soaps.esp
206 ce JRArcaneArcherPack.esp
207 cf KS_Hairdo's_Lite.esp
208 d0 LegacyoftheDragonborn TKAA Patch.esp
209 d1 mgp bruma patch.esp
210 d2 MoonAndStar_MAS TKAA Patch.esp
211 d3 Ophelia.esp
212 d4 Realistic Haircolors.esp
213 d5 RichMerchantsSkyrim_x5.esp
214 d6 Skyland_Watercolor_Blue_iNeed.esp
215 d7 True Scholar.esp
216 d8 UE_Royal_Vampire_Armor.esp
254 FE 5d WoLPatch-DBM.esp
217 d9 HearthfireMultiKid TKAA Patch.esp
218 da Helgen Reborn TKAA Patch.esp
219 db JiubQuestMarkers.esp
220 dc JS Barenziah SE - Johnskyrim.esp
254 FE 5e JSwords-ImmersiveWeaponsPatch.esp
221 dd KS Hairdo's.esp
222 de YOT - Keep it Clean.esp
223 df Apophysis_DPM_SE.esp
224 e0 EnhancedArvak.esp
225 e1 arvak_replace.esp
226 e2 BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
254 FE 5f Qw_BarenziahQuestMarkers_USSEP Patch.esp
227 e3 BecomeABard.esp
254 FE 60 Beyond Skyrim - Bruma - Guard Cloaks.esp
228 e4 BooksOfSkyrim TKAA Patch.esp
254 FE 61 Bruma - iNeed Patch.esp
229 e5 Keep It Clean - Bruma patch.esp
BS_Campfire.esp
230 e6 BSHeartland TKAA Patch.esp
231 e7 BSHeartlandFRF.esp
232 e8 Campfire Shrines.esp
233 e9 CBBE.esp
234 ea Cloaks&Capes.esp
254 FE 62 Qw_CloaksAndCapes_USSEP Patch.esp
235 eb CompanionsTweaks.esp
236 ec CraftableSkaalforFrostfall.esp
237 ed imperiallightarmorvariant.esp
238 ee DecoratorHelper.esp
239 ef Fixed Strongboxes.esp
240 f0 Furscarves.esp
241 f1 NS_Eilhart_Dress.esp
RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
254 FE 63 WheelsOfLull - Forgotten City - Bruma Patch.esp
242 f2 Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
243 f3 Ordinator - Beyond Skyrim Bruma Patch.esp
244 f4 Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp
245 f5 Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp
246 f6 Apocalypse - Waterstride Spell Addon.esp
247 f7 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
248 f8 DBM_RelicHunter.esp
254 FE 64 PCE - Live Another Life Patch.esp
249 f9 Coldhaven LAL Extension.esp
250 fa Alternate Start LAL TKAA Patch.esp
251 fb Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
252 fc Palaces Castles Enhanced.esp
254 FE 65 PCE - Marked Droppable Barenziah Stones.esp
253 fd Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
254 FE 66 Qw_BeyondReach_RDO Patch.esp
254 fe CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp
DBM_CWIPatch.esp
BUVARP.esp
ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp
254 FE 67 DBM_BUVARP_Patch.esp
254 FE 68 PCE - Immersive Citizens AI Overhaul Patch.esp
254 FE 69 PCE - Holidays Patch.esp
254 FE 6a PCE - No Custom Music patch.esp
254 FE 6b DBM_PCE_Patch.esp
254 FE 6c PCE - USSEP Patch.esp
RDO - AFT v1.66 Patch.esp
RDO - CRF + USSEP Patch.esp
RDO - USSEP Patch.esp
CWIFemmannequinSE.esp
CWIOOSEPatchReplacer.esp
254 FE 6d DBM_ImmersiveCollegeofWinterhold_Patch.esp
254 FE 6e CWIOrdinatorPatchSSE.esp
Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp
Originally posted by smr1957:
Okay, good. Had to post that because we are getting a lot of people recently with no experience thinking they can just drop a bunch of, mods and create large builds, without even knowing the most basic things about modding.

I would say, your best bet, is to start right at the beginning again. I know you said you reinstalled, but just check against this to ensure that there are no leftover files hanging about:
Resetting SkyrimSE to Vanilla or A Clean Reinstall by grimus -
http://steamcommunity.com/app/489830/discussions/0/312265589446940121/

Just a quick aside - make sure that all the patches for LOTD are actually up to date for version 6 of the mod. Also ensure that all you SHSE dependent mods have been updated to work with the latest version.

Then, the pita part, but the best way as opposed to just trying helter-skelter to figure out the problem. Start with just the vanilla game (well, vanilla except for the Unofficial Patch, Alternate start so that you can test, and SKSE64). If the game loads no problem, add in what you need to create your character and start again - presuming there is no problem, create your character and save. Now, using that save, start adding in mods gradually - making a save before you do so. (By the way, all saves should be manual saves - it is best to avoid auto and quicksaves). Exit and start up using that save - test by using the various start options to take you to different locations - if they all work, make a new save - that will be your new base to build upon. Exit, add some more mods, repeat, and keep doing so until you encounter a problem - once you do, it is likely that the culprit is in the last group you added, so load that previous save and repeat - this time adding in one mod of that group at a time, saving if it works and repeating, until the specific mod is located.

And refer to the Section 6 in the pinned topic Helpful Links and References titled Reliable Forum Regulars (Johnny Sparta is one such).
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smr1957 Dec 28, 2019 @ 5:00pm 
A few things - and it may sound snarky, but it is the truth.

First, as to plugins not being activated, you may be over the plugin limit and thus some are not loading.

Second, if you are going to make a build of that size, you should know how to troubleshoot it - if you do not know, then you need to make a build more in line with your level of experience and ability - it's that simple,

It's like wanting to drive a Formula 1 race car, without even knowing the basics of driving first.

Read the following and then create a build that you are able to handle and that is more in line with what you can do - and, it is STRONGLY recommended NOT to use mods from Bethesda - they have all the same problems that were involved in using the Workshop in Oldrim.

Excellent advice regarding modding Skyrim (essay written by PeggleFrank - written for original Skyrim, but basic principles apply to SSE, as well) http://steamcommunity.com/app/72850/discussions/0/343787920127409994/#c343787920127583150

Skyrim SE: Guides and Resources by Ilja
http://steamcommunity.com/app/489830/discussions/0/340412122413706606/
VERY IMPORTANT if you wish to successfully mod your game

And refer to this resource for links to guides, tutorials, vids, and other important information:
HELPFUL LINKS AND REFERENCES
https://steamcommunity.com/app/489830/discussions/0/2828702372997628701/

We are all willing to help, but you need to be able to take care of basic issues yourself - especially if you intend to create a large build.
KatyaAnya04 Dec 28, 2019 @ 5:39pm 
I'm familiar with almost all the links you have provided. I am usually pretty good at troubleshooting mod issues on my own. I promise I am not inexperienced. I've never had issues with the build I am currently using before now. I don't usually ask for help on these forms because I can usually figure out the issue on my own or after a quick internet search. This time I am just stumped. I will look over the links you provided again to see if there is anything I missed but this isn't my first rodeo. Admittedly I struggle from time to time, but experience level isn't my issue typically.

I do really appreciate the quick response and the links however.
Last edited by KatyaAnya04; Dec 28, 2019 @ 5:40pm
Blonde Travolta (Banned) Dec 28, 2019 @ 5:50pm 
You will mod more than play the game. Unfortunate. And now you cant even play it.
KatyaAnya04 Dec 28, 2019 @ 5:54pm 
Like the articles/essays you listed above suggested, I already checked and resolved any missing masters issues. That is all they suggest for the CTD after the bethesda logo and that was already something I dealt with. I removed some mods to lower my plugin count and that didn't seem to help the issue either. I cleaned dirty plugins, validated my game files. I completely reinstalled the game and also installed each mod individually and checked to see if I could locate the specific issue. I looked into my crash logs and couldn't find a specific issue. I already jumped through all the usual hoops. I came here for help because none of those things were working.
Blonde Travolta (Banned) Dec 28, 2019 @ 6:06pm 
What you going to do now ?
KatyaAnya04 Dec 28, 2019 @ 6:24pm 
Originally posted by obidogo:
What you going to do now ?

I am not sure. I am reading up on resources to try and find an answer, but that is why I came here to see if I could get help. If not I guess I'm just going to have to purge my mods.
Blonde Travolta (Banned) Dec 28, 2019 @ 6:37pm 
Hope you can troubleshoot it and find a way to work.

If it does not work, I suggest you purge them. What matters at the end of the day is having fun with the game and playing. Even vanilla is fun. Many mods are not good at all and game breaking. Even the ones rated the highest are not as good as you they say. They sound cool, they sell good but in essence are inferior to vanilla concept.

Rlo, elfx, and so on, in fact I find vanilla better done than what they claim
KatyaAnya04 Dec 28, 2019 @ 6:41pm 
My frustration with this situation in particular is that I've played with all of these mods enabled at the same time before, very successfully. Now I suddenly can't get them to cooperate and I cannot figure out what mods are causing my issues.
Blonde Travolta (Banned) Dec 28, 2019 @ 6:41pm 
Let me talk with examples

RLO is a very famous mod. Right. However this mod is only fake famous, it is terrible compared to vanilla. I went into the Thief Guild Cistern and I can't see the face of the NPCs, dark and bad tasteless illumination, utter garbage. Yet they claim they do amazing illumination. What ? What ? The illumination compared to vanilla is complete trash
Jonny Sparta Dec 28, 2019 @ 6:48pm 
I feel like I had trouble with mods disabling themselves once, struggling to remember tho.

Googling it now just cuz its bugging me, there are a lot of results for mods disabling themselves
The author of this thread has indicated that this post answers the original topic.
smr1957 Dec 28, 2019 @ 6:50pm 
Okay, good. Had to post that because we are getting a lot of people recently with no experience thinking they can just drop a bunch of, mods and create large builds, without even knowing the most basic things about modding.

I would say, your best bet, is to start right at the beginning again. I know you said you reinstalled, but just check against this to ensure that there are no leftover files hanging about:
Resetting SkyrimSE to Vanilla or A Clean Reinstall by grimus -
http://steamcommunity.com/app/489830/discussions/0/312265589446940121/

Just a quick aside - make sure that all the patches for LOTD are actually up to date for version 6 of the mod. Also ensure that all you SHSE dependent mods have been updated to work with the latest version.

Then, the pita part, but the best way as opposed to just trying helter-skelter to figure out the problem. Start with just the vanilla game (well, vanilla except for the Unofficial Patch, Alternate start so that you can test, and SKSE64). If the game loads no problem, add in what you need to create your character and start again - presuming there is no problem, create your character and save. Now, using that save, start adding in mods gradually - making a save before you do so. (By the way, all saves should be manual saves - it is best to avoid auto and quicksaves). Exit and start up using that save - test by using the various start options to take you to different locations - if they all work, make a new save - that will be your new base to build upon. Exit, add some more mods, repeat, and keep doing so until you encounter a problem - once you do, it is likely that the culprit is in the last group you added, so load that previous save and repeat - this time adding in one mod of that group at a time, saving if it works and repeating, until the specific mod is located.

And refer to the Section 6 in the pinned topic Helpful Links and References titled Reliable Forum Regulars (Johnny Sparta is one such).
Last edited by smr1957; Dec 28, 2019 @ 6:54pm
DrNewcenstein Dec 28, 2019 @ 6:52pm 
Sounds like you've "updated" Windows since the last time you played (I use the term "update" loosely here, as that indicates some improvement. What MS typically does with these patches can rarely be considered improvements.)

Remember that uninstalling the entire game also requires manual deletion of all folders created by the game, notably those found in Username\AppData (which is a hidden by default folder).
Not sure if those links mention that.

Otherwise, Steam puts the new install in those existing folders, using the existing files which may have problems.

If you've gotten everything back where it was - plugins sorted, still getting errors - delete your plugins.txt file from username\appdata\SSE, launch the game through Skyrim launcher directly (NOT Vortex or SSE), so the game generates a new plugins.txt file, then exit and do all your Vortex stuff again.

Alternatively, delete the vanilla plugins.txt file altogether, and let Vortex use its own.
Or, delete Vortex's plugins.txt from its virtual folder, and let it rebuild a new one.

Failure to record what is activated and what's disabled is indicative of an access issue, which is controlled by Windows' User Account Control. This is precisely why you should never install anything on C:\ drive except the OS. Even in the "allowed" folders Windows sets up, some things are not allowed like they would be if your games and things were under a different drive letter.
KatyaAnya04 Dec 28, 2019 @ 7:16pm 
Originally posted by smr1957:
Okay, good. Had to post that because we are getting a lot of people recently with no experience thinking they can just drop a bunch of, mods and create large builds, without even knowing the most basic things about modding.

I would say, your best bet, is to start right at the beginning again. I know you said you reinstalled, but just check against this to ensure that there are no leftover files hanging about:
Resetting SkyrimSE to Vanilla or A Clean Reinstall by grimus -
http://steamcommunity.com/app/489830/discussions/0/312265589446940121/

Just a quick aside - make sure that all the patches for LOTD are actually up to date for version 6 of the mod. Also ensure that all you SHSE dependent mods have been updated to work with the latest version.

Then, the pita part, but the best way as opposed to just trying helter-skelter to figure out the problem. Start with just the vanilla game (well, vanilla except for the Unofficial Patch, Alternate start so that you can test, and SKSE64). If the game loads no problem, add in what you need to create your character and start again - presuming there is no problem, create your character and save. Now, using that save, start adding in mods gradually - making a save before you do so. (By the way, all saves should be manual saves - it is best to avoid auto and quicksaves). Exit and start up using that save - test by using the various start options to take you to different locations - if they all work, make a new save - that will be your new base to build upon. Exit, add some more mods, repeat, and keep doing so until you encounter a problem - once you do, it is likely that the culprit is in the last group you added, so load that previous save and repeat - this time adding in one mod of that group at a time, saving if it works and repeating, until the specific mod is located.

And refer to the Section 6 in the pinned topic Helpful Links and References titled Reliable Forum Regulars (Johnny Sparta is one such).


I've tried starting from scratch already, but considering my luck so far I don't think I am losing anything by trying it again. I'll let you know if this works. Thank you.
Blonde Travolta (Banned) Dec 28, 2019 @ 7:20pm 
Why are you starting all over again to replicate the same problem ?
smr1957 Dec 28, 2019 @ 7:25pm 
Also check what DrNewcenstein posted (especially regarding Windows and its updates). Though Window updatest may not be the cause of this particular issue, it is worth checking just because it IS the cause of so many problems.
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