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DestinySlayer96 Jul 9, 2020 @ 6:13pm
Hand Seams? Any Mods to Fix That?
I'm having a lot of fun playing Skyrim SE, but one thing I'm noticing that I don't remember noticing much on LE are these seams where the hand meets the rest of the arm. On any character that isn't wearing gloves, there's a noticeable seam.

Are there any mods to fix this? I can live with it, but if there's a way to make it so the transition from hand and wrist to arm is smoother, I'd love to know about it.

In case it matters, I'm not using any body mods. Pure vanilla. I do have texture mods, but none of them affect the vanilla bodies or skin.
Last edited by DestinySlayer96; Jul 10, 2020 @ 6:19am
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Originally posted by DarkestLight:
Originally posted by amberjeanwolfe:
I'm not spotting any fixes online concerning that companion mod.

Oh, well.

I guess Kaiden 2 will have to go, which kind of sucks, because I was interested in that one.

Guess I'm starting a new game.
Kaiden 2 has female body textures in its BSA, probably by complete accident because it has no head or hand textures (thus it will always cause problems if it gets loaded).

You could use Cathedral Assets Optimizer[www.nexusmods.com] to unpack the BSA, delete the textures (everything in the textures\actors\character\female folder) and then use Cathedral Assets Optimizer again to repack the BSA. I can help walk you through this process if you'd like.

You could also just find a skin mod you like and install it. That will eliminate this problem by overriding those textures. Either of these options can be done mid playthrough.
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Jonny Sparta Jul 9, 2020 @ 8:17pm 
My guess is cbbe body, hands, and feet need to be built in bodyslide so that the body mesh matches the skin texture that comes with it.

I *think* that's the usual cause of seams, though there can also be wrist gaps much larger caused by other things that i can't remember
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Havok Jul 9, 2020 @ 8:28pm 
Originally posted by Jonny Sparta:
My guess is cbbe body, hands, and feet need to be built in bodyslide so that the body mesh matches the skin texture that comes with it.

I *think* that's the usual cause of seams, though there can also be wrist gaps much larger caused by other things that i can't remember

Or you have multiple bodies and the resources from one are overriding the one you’re using

I know that one from experience.. I’ve had the seams on the wrist, ankles and neck for a while until I finally said to hell with it and had CBBE + Physics overwrite everything else.

My guess is you have 2 or more bodies OP? Disable the rest except the one you are using and rebuild it.

Also make sure you are batch building to your body
Last edited by Havok; Jul 9, 2020 @ 8:30pm
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Jonny Sparta Jul 9, 2020 @ 8:40pm 
If needed, it all works the exact same for skyrim.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wkwtgp3x25s
Last edited by Jonny Sparta; Jul 9, 2020 @ 8:41pm
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DestinySlayer96 Jul 10, 2020 @ 6:21am 
Originally posted by Jonny Sparta:
My guess is cbbe body, hands, and feet need to be built in bodyslide so that the body mesh matches the skin texture that comes with it.

I *think* that's the usual cause of seams, though there can also be wrist gaps much larger caused by other things that i can't remember

I'm not using any body mods, though--and I'm actually not certain whether "seams" is the correct term. It's just that the color of the hands (which are usually "dirty") meet an arm that's cleaner, and there's this line that goes all the way around.
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DestinySlayer96 Jul 10, 2020 @ 6:23am 
Originally posted by Samurai:
Originally posted by Jonny Sparta:
My guess is you have 2 or more bodies OP? Disable the rest except the one you are using and rebuild it.

No body mods here. See my post above, answering Jonny.

I suppose I can live with it. I just wish the transition from wrist to arm was smoother than it is.
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Havok Jul 10, 2020 @ 6:35am 
Originally posted by amberjeanwolfe:
Originally posted by Jonny Sparta:
My guess is cbbe body, hands, and feet need to be built in bodyslide so that the body mesh matches the skin texture that comes with it.

I *think* that's the usual cause of seams, though there can also be wrist gaps much larger caused by other things that i can't remember

I'm not using any body mods, though--and I'm actually not certain whether "seams" is the correct term. It's just that the color of the hands (which are usually "dirty") meet an arm that's cleaner, and there's this line that goes all the way around.

Can you share your load order? You only get seams (generally) with conflicting bodyslide models..

You dont have any CBBE, XPMSSE, UNP, UUNP, or any body replacers that you downloaded as part of a mods requirements?


It's just that the color of the hands (which are usually "dirty") meet an arm that's cleaner
you may want to double check your bodyslide presets.. are you batch building to a body that isnt your PC model body?
Last edited by Havok; Jul 10, 2020 @ 6:37am
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DestinySlayer96 Jul 10, 2020 @ 6:42am 
Originally posted by Samurai:
Originally posted by amberjeanwolfe:

I'm not using any body mods, though--and I'm actually not certain whether "seams" is the correct term. It's just that the color of the hands (which are usually "dirty") meet an arm that's cleaner, and there's this line that goes all the way around.

Can you share your load order? You only get seams (generally) with conflicting bodyslide models..

You dont have any CBBE, XPMSSE, UNP, UUNP, or any body replacers that you downloaded as part of a mods requirements?


It's just that the color of the hands (which are usually "dirty") meet an arm that's cleaner
you may want to double check your bodyslide presets.. are you batch building to a body that isnt your PC model body?

I can share my load order, yeah. And I'm also going to try to grab a screenshot to show what I'm talking about. Just give me a couple minutes.
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Havok Jul 10, 2020 @ 6:44am 
Originally posted by amberjeanwolfe:
Originally posted by Samurai:

Can you share your load order? You only get seams (generally) with conflicting bodyslide models..

You dont have any CBBE, XPMSSE, UNP, UUNP, or any body replacers that you downloaded as part of a mods requirements?



you may want to double check your bodyslide presets.. are you batch building to a body that isnt your PC model body?

I can share my load order, yeah. And I'm also going to try to grab a screenshot to show what I'm talking about. Just give me a couple minutes.

Yea i think i know what you mean.. Seams is an accurate word..

you normally see it on the neck, wrists and ankles.. because thats where the body presets cut off in bodyslide
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DestinySlayer96 Jul 10, 2020 @ 7:01am 
Originally posted by Samurai:
Yea i think i know what you mean.. Seams is an accurate word..

you normally see it on the neck, wrists and ankles.. because thats where the body presets cut off in bodyslide

Here's my load order:

0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
6 6 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
7 7 EFFCore.esm
8 8 3DNPC.esp
254 FE 0 RealisticWaterTwo - Resources.esm
9 9 Campfire.esm
10 a Falskaar.esm
11 b SkyUI_SE.esp
12 c SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
13 d UIExtensions.esp
14 e Footprints.esp
15 f EFFDialogue.esp
16 10 iNeed.esp
17 11 iNeed - Extended.esp
18 12 Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.esp
19 13 SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp
20 14 MrissiTailOfTroubles.esp
21 15 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
22 16 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
23 17 Combat Evolved.esp
24 18 Holidays.esp
25 19 iHUD.esp
26 1a UltimateCombat.esp
27 1b NoRadialBlur.esp
28 1c Moonlight Tales Special Edition.esp
29 1d Real Feeding V3.esp
30 1e MoonlightTalesMCM.esp
31 1f AchieveThat_SE_en.esp
32 20 DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp
254 FE 1 3DNPC0.esp
33 21 PumpingIron.esp
34 22 icepenguinworldmapclassic.esp
35 23 Walklikeanormalperson.esp
36 24 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
37 25 AMatterOfTime.esp
38 26 DeadlySpellImpacts.esp
39 27 3PCO.esp
40 28 DSerArcheryGameplayOverhaul.esp
41 29 imp_helm_legend.esp
42 2a hmkLockOn.esp
43 2b EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp
44 2c Wintersun - Faiths of Skyrim.esp
45 2d 0Kaidan.esp
46 2e Tentapalooza.esp
47 2f Dwarfsphere.esp
48 30 zMirai.esp
49 31 Morning Fogs SSE.esp
50 32 Cloaks.esp
51 33 OBIS SE.esp
52 34 Immersive Weapons.esp
53 35 Inigo.esp
54 36 MilkSSE.esp
55 37 Immersive Patrols II.esp
56 38 Frostfall.esp
57 39 DiverseWerewolvesCollection.esp
58 3a MoreWerewolves.esp
59 3b Convenient Horses.esp
60 3c HothFollower.esp
61 3d iNeed-Milk_USSEP_patch.esp
62 3e notice board.esp
63 3f Lucien.esp
64 40 Faallokaar.esp
65 41 Missives.esp
66 42 garm_companion.esp
67 43 Maelstrom.esp
68 44 Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp
69 45 Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
70 46 Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp
71 47 WetandCold.esp
72 48 Blaze Of Eventide.esp
73 49 BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
74 4a AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp
75 4b Differently Ebony.esp
76 4c aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
77 4d RUSTIC SOULGEMS - Unsorted.esp
78 4e dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
79 4f EBT - IC PATCH.esp
80 50 DustEffectsSSE.esp
254 FE 2 HD Lods SSE.esp
81 51 iNeed - Dangerous Diseases.esp
82 52 TKDodge.esp
83 53 Black Mage Armor SE.esp
84 54 FireBurns.esp
85 55 FranklyHDImperialArmorsAndWeapons.esp
86 56 imp_helm_Immersive_Armors.esp
87 57 imp_helm_USSEP.esp
254 FE 3 CH FAL.esp
88 58 PickUpBooksSimple.esp
89 59 Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
90 5a Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp
91 5b Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp
92 5c Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
93 5d RealisticWaterTwo.esp
94 5e SSEMerged.esp
254 FE 4 Bashed Patch, 0.esp[[/quote]

And here's a couple screenshots I snapped of the one Companion (I forget her name), where I first noticed it. I think my eye caught on it because she's not wearing any gloves:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2161171165

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2161170971
Last edited by DestinySlayer96; Jul 10, 2020 @ 7:01am
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DestinySlayer96 Jul 10, 2020 @ 7:02am 
I think it's just jarring because her hands are dirty but then up from that, it transitions straight into a clean arm? As I said, I can ignore it, but I was just curious if it was supposed to be that way or not.
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DestinySlayer96 Jul 10, 2020 @ 7:37am 
Here's another screenshot, with better lighting:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2161207044
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Havok Jul 10, 2020 @ 8:10am 
Originally posted by amberjeanwolfe:
Here's another screenshot, with better lighting:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2161207044

Thats 100% your body coliding with a texture... I cant see any body morphs in your load order so i have no idea whats going on with that.. One thing i would try doing though is download CBBE and build that body in body slide, see if that fixes it, other than that im stumped..
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DestinySlayer96 Jul 10, 2020 @ 8:23am 
Originally posted by Samurai:
Originally posted by amberjeanwolfe:
Here's another screenshot, with better lighting:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2161207044

Thats 100% your body coliding with a texture... I cant see any body morphs in your load order so i have no idea whats going on with that.. One thing i would try doing though is download CBBE and build that body in body slide, see if that fixes it, other than that im stumped..

That's actually not my body. It's one of the Companions.

I'm going to try loading up the game vanilla-style and see what happens (using the coc Whiterun on the main menu) to see if it's still happening that way.
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Jonny Sparta Jul 10, 2020 @ 8:39am 
make sure you don't orphen your mod scripts
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Jonny Sparta Jul 10, 2020 @ 9:30am 
I think you're probably getting hand or body textures from a mod that might not explicitly say it.

Just to see what it overwrites you could install a skin mod, i would think that would reveal the culprit if it's a texture issue.

making it win the conflict would probably stop it for now and let you keep playing.

If it's meshes then maybe that armor comes with prebuilt meshes for a cbbe preset, even if it's a fairly normal looking one.

But i imagine you're tried wearing different armors or have seen this happening on characters with different armor at this point.

This thread seem to be dealing with the same issue, his image looks to me like it's the same thing. Might learn something.

https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/6179903-hand-body-color-mismatch/
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