Skyrim Special Edition won't launch with SKSE and mods from Nexus thru Vortex

[°NóOneknówS°]

I recently bought Skyrim SE on steam and started modding thru Vortex and added SKSE. Whenever I try to launch the game, it appears to be running on steam for a few secs and then stops and nothing appears on my screen. I tried using LOOT to resolve conflicts, using quick auto clean with sseedit, and even using MO2 to see what is causing the issue but still, I can't get it to run. I don't really know much about modding, just followed some guides and watched a few videos so please help. Below is my mod list.

0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 ETaC - RESOURCES.esm
6 6 RSkyrimChildren.esm
7 7 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
8 8 Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm
9 9 LegacyoftheDragonborn.esm
254 FE 0 Backshields.esl
10 a BSAssets.esm
11 b Lanterns Of Skyrim II.esm
254 FE 1 RealisticWaterTwo - Resources.esm
12 c BSHeartland.esm
13 d arnima.esm
14 e BS_DLC_patch.esp
15 f Wyrmstooth.esp
254 FE 2 Ecotone Dual Sheath.esl
16 10 LCHB_HomeBase.esm
17 11 hdtHighHeel.esm
18 12 SkyUI_SE.esp
19 13 Reverb and Ambiance Overhaul - Skyrim.esp
20 14 NAT.esp
21 15 SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
22 16 BDO Complete Pack by Team TAL.esp
23 17 MORDHAU Pack by TEAM TAL SMP SE.esp
24 18 MORDHAU Weapon Pack by Team TAL SE.esp
25 19 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
26 1a S3DTrees NextGenerationForests.esp
27 1b Tamriel Master Lights.esp
28 1c LoS II - Tamriel Master Lights.esp
29 1d DepthsOfSkyrim.esp
30 1e S3DLandscapes NextGenerationForests.esp
31 1f ETaC - Complete.esp
The Great Cities - Minor Cities and Towns.esp
32 20 JKs Skyrim.esp
The Great JK's Cities.esp
33 21 LC_Citadel.esp
34 22 AI Overhaul.esp
35 23 Undeath.esp
36 24 Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp
37 25 Cutting Room Floor.esp
38 26 Palaces Castles Enhanced.esp
39 27 Blues Skyrim.esp
40 28 JKs Skyrim_Dawn of Skyrim_Patch.esp
41 29 The Great Town of Ivarstead.esp
42 2a The Great Town of Karthwasten.esp
43 2b The Great Town of Shor's Stone.esp
44 2c Civil War Aftermath.esp
254 FE 3 BetterQuestObjectives.esp
45 2d JKs_Skyrim_No_Lights_Patch.esp
46 2e Helgen Reborn.esp
47 2f The Great Village of Old Hroldan.esp
254 FE 4 LoS II - JKs Skyrim patch.esp
48 30 OBIS SE.esp
49 31 The Great Village of Mixwater Mill.esp
254 FE 5 LoS II - ETaC patch.esp
50 32 Man Those Borders!.esp
51 33 Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp
52 34 BattleAftermath.esp
53 35 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
54 36 Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
55 37 Weapons Armor Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp
56 38 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
57 39 Reliquary of Myth.esp
58 3a Immersive Weapons.esp
254 FE 6 PCE - ELFX PATCH.esp
59 3b Guards_Armor_Replacer.esp
254 FE 7 AmuletsShowOnEverything.esp
254 FE 8 DBM_BeyondReach_Patch.esp
254 FE 9 Qw_BeyondReach_USSEP Patch.esp
60 3c AFT - USSEP Patch.esp
61 3d AFT_NoFriendlySpellDamage.esp
62 3e AFT_NoDances.esp
63 3f icepenguinworldmapclassic.esp
64 40 AMatterOfTime.esp
65 41 UIExtensions.esp
66 42 AddItemMenuSE.esp
67 43 iNeed.esp
68 44 iNeed - Extended.esp
69 45 Populated Lands Roads Paths Legendary.esp
70 46 Sepolcri.esp
254 FE a Sepolcri - JKs Skyrim - Cutting Room Floor patch.esp
71 47 Populated Cities Towns Villages Legendary.esp
72 48 Immersive Encounters.esp
73 49 Run For Your Lives.esp
74 4a VioLens SE.esp
254 FE b BSHeartland - Unofficial Patch.esp
254 FE c Qw_BeyondSkyrimBruma_USSEP Hotfix Patch.esp
75 4b CliffsideCottage.esp
76 4c HearthfireMultiKid.esp
77 4d Inigo.esp
254 FE d DBM_GuardsArmorReplacer_Patch.esp
254 FE e DBM_HelgenReborn_Patch.esp
78 4e Nevah's Keep.esp
79 4f haafinheim.esp
254 FE f DBM_JKSkyrim_DawnOfSkyrimDC_Patch.esp
80 50 Populated Lands Roads Paths.esp
Sepolcri - The Great Cities patch.esp
81 51 Bring Out Your Dead.esp
82 52 Immersive Patrols II.esp
83 53 amelia follower.esp
84 54 DeadlyDragons.esp
85 55 LeanWolfs Aemers Refuge SE.esp
PCE - Immersive Citizens AI Overhaul Patch.esp
86 56 MiraakFollower.esp
254 FE 10 Immersive Weapons_WACCF_Patch.esp
254 FE 11 DBM_IW_Patch.esp
254 FE 12 JKs Skyrim_BOYD_Patch.esp
254 FE 13 JKs Skyrim_3D Trees_Patch.esp
87 57 ElysiumEstate.esp
254 FE 14 PCE - SPO Patch.esp
88 58 Phenderix Magic World.esp
254 FE 15 Qw_WACCF_CRF Patch.esp
254 FE 16 DBM_CRF_Patch.esp
254 FE 17 DBM_Undeath_Patch.esp
254 FE 18 Sepolcri - Dawn of Skyrim patch.esp
254 FE 19 JKs Skyrim_Cutting Room Floor_Patch.esp
254 FE 1a Qw_S3DTrees_CRF Patch.esp
89 59 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
254 FE 1b BSHeartland - Arnima Patch.esp
254 FE 1c LoS II - Bruma patch.esp
254 FE 1d PCE - No Custom Music patch.esp
90 5a ScenicViewLodge.esp
91 5b SeranaDialogAddon.esp
254 FE 1e PCE - USSEP+CRF Patch.esp
92 5c Darkend.esp
93 5d icebladeofthemonarch.esp
254 FE 1f DBM_IceBladeMonarch_Patch.esp
94 5e ETaC - Complete S3D Patch.esp
254 FE 20 DBM_WACCF_Patch.esp
95 5f imp_helm_legend.esp
254 FE 21 DBM_Wyrmstooth_Patch.esp
254 FE 22 ImprovedClosefacedHelmets_WACCF.esp
96 60 Mix And Match DLC Fix.esp
254 FE 23 Mix And Match.esp
97 61 Ritual Armor of Boethiah.esp
254 FE 24 LoS II - TML - JKs Skyrim patch.esp
98 62 isilNarsil.esp
99 63 ktWeaponPackSE.esp
254 FE 25 DBM_iNeed_Patch.esp
254 FE 26 Qw_S3DLandscapes_CRF Patch.esp
DBM_TheGreatCitiesMinor_Patch.esp
254 FE 27 LoS II - SMIM patch.esp
254 FE 28 DBM_DepthsofSkyrim_Patch.esp
100 64 My Home Is Your Home.esp
254 FE 29 JKs Skyrim_Thunderchild_Patch.esp
101 65 Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp
102 66 AutoHideAmmo.esp
103 67 Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp
104 68 DSerArcheryGameplayOverhaul.esp
beltfastenedquivers.esp
254 FE 2a Bruma - Violens Patch.esp
254 FE 2b Bruma - iNeed Patch.esp
105 69 Bijin AIO.esp
Bijin NPCs.esp
Bijin Warmaidens.esp
254 FE 2c Qw_BijinAIO_AIOverhaul Patch.esp
Bijin Wives.esp
106 6a CBBE.esp
254 FE 2d 3BBB.esp
107 6b RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
108 6c DSerCombatGameplayOverhaul.esp
109 6d DCR_KingCrusaderMegaPack_SSE.esp
110 6e DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp
111 6f ogSplendorDragons.esp
254 FE 2e Deadly Dragons - DDC and Splendor.esp
112 70 Deadly Dragons and Splendor Dragon Variants SE (PATCH).esp
254 FE 2f Deadly Dragons - Wyrmstooth.esp
113 71 DeadlySpellImpacts.esp
114 72 ETaC - Complete RSC Patch.esp
115 73 Ecotone Dual Sheath Patch.esp
116 74 Elisabeth.esp
117 75 FNIS.esp
118 76 Evil MasterMind Armor.esp
254 FE 30 BetterQuestObjectives - LOTD Patch.esp
254 FE 31 BetterQuestObjectives-AFTPatch.esp
254 FE 32 BetterQuestObjectives-CRFPatch.esp
254 FE 33 BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp
119 77 Footprints.esp
120 78 12FemaleBrows.esp
121 79 FollowerWander2.esp
254 FE 34 GDOS - Splendid Mechanized Dwemer Door.esp
254 FE 35 GoToBed.esp
122 7a Perfect Legionnaire - Full Helmet.esp
254 FE 36 LoS II - LotD patch.esp
254 FE 37 GDOS - Glorious Solitude Door - Rotation Fix.esp
123 7b Haem Projects Shalidor.esp
124 7c HothFollower.esp
125 7d HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp
126 7e iHUD.esp
127 7f Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
128 80 Immersive Encounters - RS Children Patch.esp
254 FE 38 KSHairdosSMP.esp
129 81 LadyMiraak.esp
254 FE 39 LoS II TML - Guard Armor Replacer patch.esp
254 FE 3a DBM_ELFX_Patch.esp
254 FE 3b DBM_ktWeaponPackSE_Patch.esp
254 FE 3c DBM_IA_Patch.esp
254 FE 3d DBM_OBIS_Patch.esp
254 FE 3e DBM_PCE_Patch.esp
254 FE 3f DBM_RSChildren_Patch.esp
254 FE 40 DBM_SMIM_Patch.esp
130 82 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
131 83 dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp
132 84 MoonlightTalesMCM.esp
254 FE 41 Mix And Match Immersive Armors Patch.esp
133 85 sandboxcylinderheight.esp
134 86 Moonlight Tales Special Edition.esp
135 87 Nemesis PCEA.esp
136 88 NoBSAIProjectileDodge.esp
137 89 dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp
138 8a OBIS SE - Immersive Weapons Patch.esp
139 8b PC Head Tracking - MCM.esp
140 8c PC Head Tracking - Patch.esp
254 FE 42 PCE - Marked Droppable Barenziah Stones.esp
254 FE 43 Peacekeeper Armour.esp
254 FE 44 Guards Armor Replacer - WACCF Patch.esp
141 8d Perfect Legionnaire - Troops Re-equipment.esp
142 8e Masters of Death.esp
254 FE 45 Qw_AIOverhaul_CRF Patch.esp
143 8f RAO - ELFX Patch.esp
254 FE 46 Qw_BijinAIO_CRF Patch.esp
144 90 RSChildren.esp
254 FE 47 RSChildren + AI Overhaul Patch.esp
254 FE 48 Qw_RSChildren_AIOverhaul Patch.esp
Qw_SofiaFollower_GDO Patch.esp
Qw_SofiaFollower_USSEP Patch.esp
254 FE 49 Qw_WACCF_BSHeartland Patch.esp
254 FE 4a Qw_WACCF_RSChildren Patch.esp
254 FE 4b Qw_WACCF_arnima Patch.esp
145 91 CRF_RSChildrenPatch.esp
146 92 RaceMenuHH.esp
147 93 Realistic AI Detection 2 SE Lite.esp
148 94 RaceMenu.esp
149 95 RaceMenuPlugin.esp
150 96 RSChildren Patch - BS Bruma.esp
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
151 97 RichMerchantsSkyrim_x10.esp
254 FE 4c RoM - Apocalypse + Summermyst Patch.esp
254 FE 4d RoM - CRF + LOTD Patch.esp
254 FE 4e RoM - Dragon Priest Masks Pack.esp
254 FE 4f RoM - ICH Patch.esp
152 98 Runandwalkpaces.esp
153 99 Serana.esp
154 9a ShowRaceMenuAlternative.esp
155 9b S3DRocks.esp
156 9c TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
157 9d Valerica.esp
158 9e Summermyst - WACCF Patch.esp
159 9f WetandCold.esp
160 a0 Vivace.esp
161 a1 WondersofWeather.esp
162 a2 XPMSE.esp
163 a3 Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp
164 a4 Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
165 a5 Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp
254 FE 50 Ordinator - Beyond Skyrim Bruma Patch.esp
254 FE 51 Ordinator_WACCF_Patch.esp
166 a6 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
167 a7 Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp
168 a8 Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
169 a9 RDO - AFT v1.66 Patch.esp
170 aa Convenient Horses.esp
254 FE 52 CH BRU_BRE_WYR.esp
254 FE 53 BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp
254 FE 54 PCE - Live Another Life Patch.esp
254 FE 55 PCE - RDO Patch.esp
254 FE 56 Qw_BeyondReach_RDO Patch.esp
Qw_SofiaFollower_RDO Patch.esp
171 ab RAO - Alternate Start Patch.esp
172 ac RDO - CRF + USSEP Patch.esp
RDO - USSEP Patch.esp
173 ad RealisticWaterTwo.esp
254 FE 57 RealisticWaterTwo - Beyond Skyrim Bruma.esp
254 FE 58 RealisticWaterTwo - ELFX Patch.esp
254 FE 59 JKs Skyrim_RWT_Patch.esp
254 FE 5a RealisticWaterTwo - ASLAL Patch.esp
254 FE 5b RealisticWaterTwo - Cutting Room Floor Patch.esp
254 FE 5c RealisticWaterTwo - Needs Mod Patch.esp
SRG Enhanced Trees Activator.esp
174 ae Veydosebrom.esp
175 af RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Wyrmstooth.esp
WACCF_BashedPatchLvlListFix.esp


PS. some of the mods in that load order are disabled. I already tried lowering my active mod plugins to less than 250 but it still isn't working. Vortex says I have 176 plugins and 93 light plugins active.

[every1hasnames]

Jesus christ you dont know much about modding so you throw yourself to the deep end by really maxing the amount of mods you can have.



1. Make sure you have downloaded the requirements for each and every mod. On each mods page there is a section called requirements usually under the mods description. If a mod requires another mod to be installed it wont work without that mod.



2. Make sure none of the mods you use stated it had to be downloaded manually if the mod states it has to be downloaded and installed manually it wont work if you used vortex to install it.




3. Mod mergers and script merger programs can help merge mods or scripts to help take care of conflicts.


4. The ultimate way to get your game working when mods cause an issue (and it is the issue) Is disabling a mod checking if the game works. Disable another check if the game works rinse and repeat until your game works. The last mod you disabled is the likely culprit for the problem.


NOte 4 is garaunteed to work. But it also has a high chance of corrupting your save. Meaning ruining a playthrough. And the more mods you have the longer it takes.


I dont know if you even have a playthrough currently. But just fyi.

[NaabiS]

don't use vortex it's bad use nexus mod manager and i don't know but you need to use skse to launch your game if you have mods

[BlackD]

when you start vortex it should tell you whats wrong in the upper right corner (where the bell icon is)

basically what every1hasnames said.
and of course you can keep using vortex (i do with 354 mods without any problems) and i have no idea why people alyways say "its bad" without any context why.

[alexander_dougherty]

Originally posted by Sankari:

don't use vortex it's bad use nexus mod manager and i don't know but you need to use skse to launch your game if you have mods

Ignore this one.

Vortex is a perfectly fine mod manager, as is MO2. There are guides in the pinned topics for setting up SKSE64 so it launches via Vortex/MO2.

NMM is currently relying on community support to keep it going, but as that support slowly moves away, it will reach a point were it's no longer viable. Bare that in mind when people keep recommending NMM.

[°NóOneknówS°]

Thank you guys for your insights. I'm trying to deactivate one mod at a time and testing eveytime to know what is causing the issue as per every1hasnames. I'll continue to do this until I find out what's causing the issue. I have always tried to resolve whatever error or conflict is appearing on LOOT, Vortex, or MO2. I also installed tons of patches and made sure every requirement is met and also read every 'compatibility' section or in the forums of every mod to make sure I didn't install a conflicting mod. I guess I missed something. Will try to research more about this. Please just post anything that will help me resolve this issue here and will help thousands of Skyrim SE players like me who are newbies about modding. Thanks again guys!

[alexander_dougherty]

Originally posted by ~°NóOneknOwS°~:

Thank you guys for your insights. I'm trying to deactivate one mod at a time and testing eveytime to know what is causing the issue as per every1hasnames. I'll continue to do this until I find out what's causing the issue. I have always tried to resolve whatever error or conflict is appearing on LOOT, Vortex, or MO2. I also installed tons of patches and made sure every requirement is met and also read every 'compatibility' section or in the forums of every mod to make sure I didn't install a conflicting mod. I guess I missed something. Will try to research more about this. Please just post anything that will help me resolve this issue here and will help thousands of Skyrim SE players like me who are newbies about modding. Thanks again guys!

If you post your load order, someone might spot something,

After that it tends to be take off the last mods you installed, if it still crashes on a new game, remove half of them, if it still crashes repeat, etc. One you have a load order that doesn't crash, add them one at a time, and do a test play before adding more.



Also please note that if you remove/disable mods you need to either start a new game or use a save from before you added them, because mods bake data into saves and there is no way of removing it.

[Radio Demon]

Originally posted by Sankari:

don't use vortex it's bad use nexus mod manager and i don't know but you need to use skse to launch your game if you have mods

I just read NMM has a few flaws, specially with big mods. Rather use Vortex. Source [www.nexusmods.com]. Look after the "Do Not Use NMM" part for more details. (Thats the Mod with other Tamriel Regions, thatswhy it is so big xD)

[Daywalker]

to start the game via vortex you should set the default program for running to skse64_loader.exe not the skyrim exe

[Wolfpack]

Originally posted by Sankari:

don't use vortex it's bad use nexus mod manager and i don't know but you need to use skse to launch your game if you have mods

Seconded. Ignore.

[Jonny Sparta]

Idk about vortex but for MO2 skse needs to be installed manually into your game folder. Figured i'd mention that just in case.

I could be wrong but if you're not making it to the main menu either your skse isn't installed / setup correctly or you have mods that are missing masters (requirements)

[Wolfpack]

Question: did you load up all these mods prior to starting a game? Generally better to add a few at a time, start the game and test, then add the next few, test, until you have everything working smoothly. This looks to me like your eyes were bigger than your stomach.

Read each mod description carefully before you add it - there often are special instructions for installing as well as compatibility notes. Slow down and test, and your modding life will be better all around.

[Jonny Sparta]

An issue i worry about for this load order once you get it launching is your script load.

Skyrims engine can only handle so many scripts running at once and with too much you'll see major delays in scripted combat actions.

Wildcat is a very scipt heavy mod and combined with those populated npc etc mods you've got I'd say chances are pretty good you're going to be clogging your script pipeline pretty badly.


I see you've also got both FNIS and nemesis installed, I've seen reports that they can get along but the nemesis page does explicity say it's not compatible with fnis.

I've recently replaced fnis with nemesis to try out cgo and have found nemesis to be handling all my previously fnis dependant animation mods just fine.

[Jonny Sparta]

I opted for ultimate combat over wildcat to reduce the script lag, its far more script light.

With a large load order there are a LOT of variables to deal with, some mods are finicky about their place in the load order relative to other mods and it's not uncommon for LOOT to miss this.

And going over 200+ mod description pages and the pages of posts to figure out an issue isn't particularly feasible starting from square one.

Being new to modding you've bitten off a lot to chew here, it'd probably be a lot easier and more fun to just pick your favourite 50 mods, install half of them, test it, and then go from there.

I don't wanna rain on ur parade or anything and I applaud your glorious vision for skyrim but i spent months trying to fix borked gameplay before I realized that large and complex load orders are quite hard to get right and having mod managers and loot doesn't automate the process by a long shot.

keep us posted :)

[NaabiS]

Originally posted by ✌ Buddhy ✌:

Originally posted by Sankari:

don't use vortex it's bad use nexus mod manager and i don't know but you need to use skse to launch your game if you have mods

I just read NMM has a few flaws, specially with big mods. Rather use Vortex. Source [www.nexusmods.com]. Look after the "Do Not Use NMM" part for more details. (Thats the Mod with other Tamriel Regions, thatswhy it is so big xD)

not for me i have been using it long time now not a single crash or anything like that last week i tried vortex couldn't not even launch my game and i'm not the only one but use it if you wanna have mod issues and crash your game every time you play

[kristoferdswhite13]

I have a similar problem. I'm new to modding and am unable to get my game to launch. I downloaded SKSE64 and tried to run it without the library addresses file. When I realized, I fixed it. Vortex shows no errors, conflicts, everything seems kosher, but the game still won't launch from my desktop, Steam, Vortex, anywhiere. I'm so frustrated! Someone please take pity and help me!