Smelter/shovel/broom animation bug

[AggroBuLLeT]

does anyone know how to fix this bug? it happens with brooms too i think. NPC dont hold shovels correctly.it just kinda glitches through 1 hand and the other hand is empty.

this is NOT an FNIS/Nemesis issue. i already tested this. i disabled xpmse, fnis and nemesis, started a completely new save, used LAL to get to dawnstar and walked to the smelter. and same bug persists.

anyone know why?

here is a screenshot: https://i.imgur.com/ItydIyw.jpg

EDIT: fixed. the mod Skyrim 2020 Parallax by Pfuscher is responsible

[Vlad 254]

I mean that does happen occasionally in my game. Does that always happen in your game and if so did the problem just start lately?

I've heard script lag can sometimes cause these types of issues for example the mod Ultimate Combat the MA had mentioned this a year or so ago although it was of course in regards to weapons.


Besides USSEP which does address some alignment issues & IMO is a must in all load orders.

I would also try the following. Not saying these two will fix this for sure but they are also staples in my load order:

SSE Engine Fixes
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/17230

Clothing and Clutter Fixes
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/18994

As for the same problem being there after you remove mods it is worth mentioning that the possibility always exists after having mod problems (not saying this is for sure a mod problem) when you remove those mods there is always the possibility of baked in data and/or files left behind that can cause problems so a clean vanilla reinstall would be in order.

So with all that being said, the first thing I would ask is do you use the USSEP?

[StreamWhenGuy]

I think this is a vanilla bug, has never been addressed by any fixes and maybe even is not fixable. NPCs also often hold invisible objects in their hands. When you go smithing with your shield equipped, the character would hold an iron bar in his left hand upside down. There is more. It is "normal" and just works.

[Vlad 254]

Originally posted by StreamWhenGuy:

I think this is a vanilla bug, has never been addressed by any fixes and maybe even is not fixable. NPCs also often hold invisible objects in their hands. When you go smithing with your shield equipped, the character would hold an iron bar in his left hand upside down. There is more. It is "normal" and just works.

Absolutely and like I said it does happen occasionally in my game but not the majority of the time. So that's my question to OP, does it always happen?

I also would use USSEP and SSE Engine Fixes regardless as they only improve the game.

[AggroBuLLeT]

Originally posted by Vlad 254:

I mean that does happen occasionally in my game. Does that always happen in your game and if so did the problem just start lately?

I've heard script lag can sometimes cause these types of issues for example the mod Ultimate Combat the MA had mentioned this a year or so ago although it was of course in regards to weapons.


Besides USSEP which does address some alignment issues & IMO is a must in all load orders.

I would also try the following. Not saying these two will fix this for sure but they are also staples in my load order:

SSE Engine Fixes
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/17230

Clothing and Clutter Fixes
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/18994

As for the same problem being there after you remove mods it is worth mentioning that the possibility always exists after having mod problems (not saying this is for sure a mod problem) when you remove those mods there is always the possibility of baked in data and/or files left behind that can cause problems so a clean vanilla reinstall would be in order.

So with all that being said, the first thing I would ask is do you use the USSEP?

hi

so to answer some questions:

im already using USSEP, SSE Fixes and SSE engine fixes.

im also using WACCF

as i said in the OP, this was tested on a brand NEW save.

im using MO2. the nature of that program makes it physically impossible to leave ANY files behind after disabling a mod. cause they were never in your skyrim directionary in the first place.

as for INI settings im using Bethini.

this problem happens everytime, no matter how many times i reload or even start a new character. its also not just NPCs. its the same when i activate the smelter. the animation is broken.

i dont think thats normal like the other person said. since i NEVER had that problem in enderal, which is heavily modded and has tons of script lag ( i guess ) . and since enderal uses LE engine i figure this bug didnt exist in LE as well.

so maybe its an SSE only bug? yet i have never seen this in youtube letsplays or something. but maybe i didnt notice.

but i just dont think thats 'normal' . it would have beene asy to google about this problem then. yet i cant find very little

[StreamWhenGuy]

It occasionally happens, yes. "Normal" was put in quotes for a reason, as in you can't do anything about it. I think you're just not familiar with memes. I tested out the vanilla game and watched some not too heavily modded Gopher playthroughs with the same bugs happening occasionally. I don't remember any of those being in Oldrim though, but don't quote me on that as it was long time ago.

[StreamWhenGuy]

Well if it happens literally 100% of the time then there's something wrong. Is your framerate capped at 60?

[StreamWhenGuy]

Going above 60 is a bad idea because of how the engine works. Stick to 60. There are some fixes for higher framerate but I'm not familiar with those.
I mean if it happens all the time during regular gameplay, with every NPC on your way, then it shouldn't be happening of course. If it happens occasionally here and there then it's "normal".

[Vlad 254]

I wouldn't advise raising the FPS Limit, fixes or not. There are some quests that can't handle higher FPS, That may have changed since I last tweaked my settings settings to run above 60 (actually it worked well outside of a couple of situations)but I also have a 144hz which makes a difference. I just don't see how that would help. There's no doubt you have a problem and that's why you're here. But I don't have an answer other than this happens occasionally in my game (but not that often) and I've learned to live with it. Your case is obviously different.

[Vlad 254]

ah didn't see your last post, I'm a slow typist lol what can I say.

edit: not only am I a hunt & peck typist I also see many errors in what I was trying to say like typing seetings twice and leaving out the word monitor after 144hz...more coffee