Bandits sometimes spawning without weapons

[Khadafi]

HI,

I´m having an issue with bandits sometimes spawning without any weapon in their inventory, just using their fists.
I went through all the corresponging leveled lists in SSEdit and I´m not finding any error, even with mod added weapons, since I corrected bashed patch lists myself.
Weapon mods I have installed are Immersive Weapons, Expanded Skyrim Weaponry, Jaysus Swords and Heavy Armory.
On top I´m running a few other NPC editing mods like Diversive Skyrim, Immersive Patrols and ASIS (which I´m somehow suspecting, although I went through all leveled lists, and even fixed every single NPC).
Is there a maximum amount of items for one leveled list that the game can proesses, for example?

It´s really annoying, so any idea whould be appriciated!

[alexander_dougherty]

Post your load order, without that nobody can even begin to troubleshoot.

[Perplex]

It is your 25th mod from the top, and you need to change the order of the 27th and 31st ones.

[Khadafi]

Originally posted by alexander_dougherty:

Post your load order, without that nobody can even begin to troubleshoot.

Yeah I tried posting it but its way to long. I posted it here:
https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/8634738-bandits-sometimes-spawning-without-weapons[/url]

[Stormsong]

Did you run LOOT on this Load Order? I ask because you've got the Modern Brawl Bug Fix and Trade and Barter significantly higher up than I'm accustomed to seeing them.

[Khadafi]

Originally posted by Stormsong the Fallen:

Did you run LOOT on this Load Order? I ask because you've got the Modern Brawl Bug Fix and Trade and Barter significantly higher up than I'm accustomed to seeing them.

I initially did that but it completly messed everything up, so I had to redo it. But I will give it another try and see.

[Stormsong]

Originally posted by Khadafi:

Originally posted by Stormsong the Fallen:

Did you run LOOT on this Load Order? I ask because you've got the Modern Brawl Bug Fix and Trade and Barter significantly higher up than I'm accustomed to seeing them.

I initially did that but it completly messed everything up, so I had to redo it. But I will give it another try and see.Also after doing so right now,

Edit: For example I just noticed LOOT is placing ASIS above the bashed patch, which is not supposed to happen and WICO and Bijin way to high, where I already know I`m going to see black faces again.

Hm yeah, it can get a few things wrong, but I like to use it as foundation.

My process with it: go on a nexus shopping spree, once I have everything I think I'll want (and I always end up grabbing more >.<) I'll run LOOT, then I'll move things around as I patch with xEdit. Still, highly recommend at least starting with LOOT and then working from the sorted template.

[Khadafi]

Originally posted by Stormsong the Fallen:

Originally posted by Khadafi:

I initially did that but it completly messed everything up, so I had to redo it. But I will give it another try and see.

Hm, it can get a few things wrong, but I like to use it as foundation.

My process with it: go on a nexus shopping spree, once I have everything I think I'll want (and I always end up grabbing more >.<) I'll run LOOT, then I'll move things around as I patch with xEdit. Still, highly recommend at least starting with LOOT and then working from the sorted template.

Yeah I get your point, but for example I just noticed LOOT is placing ASIS above the bashed patch, which is not supposed to happen and WICO and Bijin way to high, where I already know I`m going to see black faces again.I simplydon´t really trust LOOT.

[Khadafi]

OK I gave it another try and went to embershard mine.
The first bandit standing outside only used his fists so I just left him standing there and went inside. As soon as I came back out, he was suddenly using weapons... Could this be caused by too big leveled lists or scipts? Maybe loading the lists is taking to long?

[alexander_dougherty]

Originally posted by Khadafi:

OK I gave it another try and went to embershard mine.
The first bandit standing outside only used his fists so I just left him standing there and went inside. As soon as I came back out, he was suddenly using weapons... Could this be caused by too big leveled lists or scipts? Maybe loading the lists is taking to long?

Always a possibility, stuff takes time to load up when you enter a new area.

[Khadafi]

Well gave it try insdie, didnt work there...

[Khadafi]

Anyone?

[Vlad 254]

Sounds like you know what you are doing

BUT

A load order that size

coupled with no sorting through Loot or a ModManager with LOOT API

I'm surprised that is the only problem you have

[Khadafi]

Ok, I sorted my load order with loot...
Same result...

[Doom Sayer]

Originally posted by Khadafi:

Ok, I sorted my load order with loot...
Same result...

Well yes it would be. Your using bashed patch so you should need to recreate it. Even then it might mean certain mods need patching. Character editing mods (aka clothing, weapons, stats, magic, skills, appearance can all cause issues when used together. Also you exported mod list incorrectly. (I could be incorrect as I havent made one in a while but my understanding is bashed patch is based off your load order.)

"Modwatch not working is NOT an excuse to not share your mod info. Use one of the other methods described

Modwat.ch (preferred)
The quickest way to share all the information we need is to use modwatch. This shares your ini files, modlist.txt (if you're using MO), and plugins.txt.

How do you use modwatch? Download the new downloader. Unzip the folder anywhere on your computer (like maybe the same place you keep all your other skyrim modding utilities). Run the executable. If you are using MO, do not run through MO. Fill out the information at the top. Then you need to find the files.

For MO users, click on "Mod Organizer", then click on the folder button, then navigate to \mod organizer\profiles<name of profile you want to upload>. The folder will look empty. Click "open" and then click the "save" button in modwatch.

For NMM, Bash, and Vortex users, click on "nexus mod manager", then click on the top folder button, then navigate to C:\Users\<computer user name>\AppData\Local\Skyrim. The folder will look empty. Click "open". Then click on the bottom folder button, and navigate to C:\Users<computer user name>\Documents\Documents\my games\Skyrim. Again, it will look empty. Click "open". Then click the "save" button in modwatch.

For both: Then you can click the upload button. The modlist will be found at modwat.ch/u/<usernameyoufilledoutbefore>. The url is case sensitive.

If the modlist does not appear correctly on the website, try uploading it again. There's some issues with data storage on the server but usually uploading it again will fix it. (I've only ever had it break once out of dozens of uploads, so you shouldn't have to try very hard).

If for some reason you can't get the above to work, you should uninstall Skyrim and quit modding. Wait... um... er, no that's not right. I mean you should move on to plan B for sharing your info!"
-skyrim mods subreddit.

The main issue currently is unless I am incorrect we currently see ALL the mods you have not just whats enabled. (Note I dont even have a Skyrim setup far along as yours. (No patches or anything), so dont take my word as gospel.

[Khadafi]

Thank you!
I rebuild the patch right after using LOOT.
Here´s my modwatch link: https://modwat.ch/u/Khadafi/plugins