Can't get skyui to work properly [SOLVED]

[RazorSpark]

I've been trying to figure out what I've done wrong for over 2 hours now but i still can't figure it out. Yesterday i finally converted over to Special Edition from Legacy Edition and started rebuilding my load order and obviously, skyUI is a staple mod if you want to use a lot of the high quality mods out there but low and behold, its decided it wants to act out and not work for me, so i'm hoping i could get some help as the people on here likely know far more about modding than me.

I've installed SkyUI through vortex but it doesn't seem to work. i don't get any form of error message and whenever i boot up Skyrim SE through the SKSE loader, Vortex or even through steam itself the mod is disabled so i have to reactivate it inside the game, using the bethesda net load order options. But even then, it still fails to work upon starting a new game, and if i quit to desktop and restart Skyrim again, through any of the before mentioned clients it is once again disabled. it is listed as enabled inside of vortex.

At first i thought maybe i had improperly installed SKSE so i deleted it and installed it again, downloading the 'Current SE build 2.0.17 (runtime 1.5.97): 7z archive' from skse.silverlock.org and extracted it and merged it into the skyrim special edition directory, as i was instructed by a youtube tutorial, and when i type "getskseversion" into the console it says "SKSE64 version 2.0.17, release idx 64, runtime 01050610" which i think means it is installed correctly.

i've tried sorting my load order with LOOT but even when sorted it still is listed as disabled, as it lacks the green tick next to its name, which is listed as SkyUI_SE.esp if that's relevant.

Neither Vortex or LOOT have notified me of any incompatibilities or redundant files, and they used to be pretty good at pointing that stuff out when i used Legacy Edition.

[Wolfpack]

It may seem simple, but did you enable and deploy SkyUI in Vortex?

[RazorSpark]

Originally posted by Wolfpack:

It may seem simple, but did you enable and deploy SkyUI in Vortex?

yeah i did, i tried reinstalling a few times and did so each time

[Vlad 254]

Can you post your load order.

[RazorSpark]

Originally posted by Vlad 254:

Can you post your load order.

Here it is after its been sorted

0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
6 6 bsassets.esm
7 7 bsheartland.esm
8 8 bs_dlc_patch.esp
9 9 Falskaar.esm
10 a ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
11 b konahrik_accoutrements.esp
SkyUI_SE.esp
12 c The Great Cities - Minor Cities and Towns.esp
13 d perkpointsperlevel.esp
14 e sl99marrymeserana.esp
15 f Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp
16 10 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Darker.esp
17 11 Severin Manor.esp
18 12 Sjel Blad Castle_SE.esp
19 13 Guards_Armor_Replacer.esp
20 14 UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp
21 15 wintersun - faiths of skyrim.esp
22 16 dwarfsphere.esp
23 17 authentic_legion.esp
24 18 ShadowstarCastle.esp
25 19 WindstadMine.esp
26 1a Immersive Patrols II.esp
27 1b PsijicTeleportSpells.esp
28 1c Phenderix Magic Evolved.esp
29 1d Tools of Kagrenac.esp
30 1e quest_pitfighter.esp
31 1f Convenient Horses.esp
32 20 the paarthurnax dilemma.esp
33 21 haem projects goblands.esp
34 22 quest_pitfighter_dlc01.esp
35 23 Andromeda - Unique Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp
36 24 JiubQuestMarkers.esp
37 25 Black Mage Armor SE.esp
254 FE 0 dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp
38 26 BetterDremoraMerchant.esp
39 27 BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
40 28 My Home Is Your Home.esp
41 29 Moonlight Tales Special Edition.esp
42 2a Konahriks Privilege by Edhelsereg.esp
43 2b DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp
44 2c ElementalFuryFix.esp
45 2d CrossbowsOfSkyrim.esp
254 FE 1 Jorrvaskr Map Marker.esp
46 2e Enhanced Familiars_SE.esp
47 2f dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Reduced.esp
48 30 LeftHandRings-1stPersonView.esp
49 31 StormLord.esp
50 32 MorrowindImports.esp
51 33 RGMsAlchemistsCompendium.esp
52 34 ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp
53 35 LeftHandRings.esp
54 36 ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-L2.esp
55 37 bspatch.esp
56 38 Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp
57 39 Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
58 3a Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp
59 3b sacrosanct - vampires of skyrim.esp
60 3c Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

as you can see SkyUI is the only thing not loaded

[RazorSpark]

So i heard that a problem with SkyUI can be caused when you try to use mods from vortex, and also bethesda net at the same time. The fix for this is to use SSEEdit to set Skyrim.esm as a master file for SkyUI and the problem seems to have fixed itself. admittedly this has now caused $ to appear in front of almost every piece of menu text, but that's a separate issue that ill start working on now.

[Wolfpack]

Originally posted by RazorSpark:

So i heard that a problem with SkyUI can be caused when you try to use mods from vortex, and also bethesda net at the same time. The fix for this is to use SSEEdit to set Skyrim.esm as a master file for SkyUI and the problem seems to have fixed itself. admittedly this has now caused $ to appear in front of almost every piece of menu text, but that's a separate issue that ill start working on now.

Okay, next thing to do is remove the Bethesda mods and install them thru Vortex. Don't mix mod managers.

[RazorSpark]

Originally posted by Wolfpack:

Originally posted by RazorSpark:

So i heard that a problem with SkyUI can be caused when you try to use mods from vortex, and also bethesda net at the same time. The fix for this is to use SSEEdit to set Skyrim.esm as a master file for SkyUI and the problem seems to have fixed itself. admittedly this has now caused $ to appear in front of almost every piece of menu text, but that's a separate issue that ill start working on now.

Okay, next thing to do is remove the Bethesda mods and install them thru Vortex. Don't mix mod managers.

is it really that big of an issue? i used to use both vortex and the steam workshop and that was fine on LE. is steam different in some way? Or is it an issue with SE?

[Wolfpack]

Originally posted by RazorSpark:

Originally posted by Wolfpack:

Okay, next thing to do is remove the Bethesda mods and install them thru Vortex. Don't mix mod managers.

is it really that big of an issue? i used to use both vortex and the steam workshop and that was fine on LE. is steam different in some way? Or is it an issue with SE?

It's for the exact reason you created this thread. There isn't a Steam Workshop for SE, and having half your mods in the in game manager and half in Vortex will lead to confusion and ultimately problems like you just experienced.

[alexander_dougherty]

Vortex can adopt mods (from Bethesda for SE/Workshop for LE), allowing it to manage them easily, you just can't update the adopted mods.

Some people say they have no issues with mixing Bethesda mods and Nexus mods, others do have problems, so it depends on who you ask.

But as everybody keeps saying SE doesn't have a workshop, if you have workshop mods in your load order they are LE/Oldrim mods. Unless you are unable to type Bethesda mods in your posts......

[Vlad 254]

Originally posted by alexander_dougherty:

Vortex can adopt mods (from Bethesda for SE/Workshop for LE), allowing it to manage them easily, you just can't update the adopted mods.

Some people say they have no issues with mixing Bethesda mods and Nexus mods, others do have problems, so it depends on who you ask.

But as everybody keeps saying SE doesn't have a workshop, if you have workshop mods in your load order they are LE/Oldrim mods. Unless you are unable to type Bethesda mods in your posts......

This and This = all true
You can now download a add-on for Vortex that allows you to dl Beth mods but can't update.

I am one of those people that uses Vortex and mix the 2 (nexus and beth, albiet I only have 2 beth mods) and have zero problems.

throw in one more "this" as there is no workshop for sse.

[Wolfpack]

I guess I just don't see the value in not being able to manage adopted mods. Why not just reinstall them from Vortex so you can properly manage everything from one place?

[RazorSpark]

Originally posted by alexander_dougherty:

Vortex can adopt mods (from Bethesda for SE/Workshop for LE), allowing it to manage them easily, you just can't update the adopted mods.

Some people say they have no issues with mixing Bethesda mods and Nexus mods, others do have problems, so it depends on who you ask.

But as everybody keeps saying SE doesn't have a workshop, if you have workshop mods in your load order they are LE/Oldrim mods. Unless you are unable to type Bethesda mods in your posts......

Sorry, i probably should have made myself clearer, when i asked about workshop mods i was talking about when i used to use the workshop for LE (oldrim as you put it). obviously i don't use workshop mods now i've transitioned over to SE. i simply brought it up because i used both the workshop and vortex on LE, meaning i used mods from two differing sites, and it worked fine. i was wondering what is the difference between Vortex+bethesda on SE and Vortex+Workshop on LE, and if i was just lucky that i didn't hit a problem on LE. Sorry for any confusion.

[alexander_dougherty]

Originally posted by RazorSpark:

Originally posted by alexander_dougherty:

Vortex can adopt mods (from Bethesda for SE/Workshop for LE), allowing it to manage them easily, you just can't update the adopted mods.

Some people say they have no issues with mixing Bethesda mods and Nexus mods, others do have problems, so it depends on who you ask.

But as everybody keeps saying SE doesn't have a workshop, if you have workshop mods in your load order they are LE/Oldrim mods. Unless you are unable to type Bethesda mods in your posts......

Sorry, i probably should have made myself clearer, when i asked about workshop mods i was talking about when i used to use the workshop for LE (oldrim as you put it). obviously i don't use workshop mods now i've transitioned over to SE. i simply brought it up because i used both the workshop and vortex on LE, meaning i used mods from two differing sites, and it worked fine. i was wondering what is the difference between Vortex+bethesda on SE and Vortex+Workshop on LE, and if i was just lucky that i didn't hit a problem on LE. Sorry for any confusion.

Ah that makes sense.

It all depends on who you ask, some people do mix Nexus and Bethesda mods with no issues, others can't get their load orders sorted no matter what they do, it literally depends on who you ask.

[RazorSpark]

Originally posted by alexander_dougherty:

Originally posted by RazorSpark:

Sorry, i probably should have made myself clearer, when i asked about workshop mods i was talking about when i used to use the workshop for LE (oldrim as you put it). obviously i don't use workshop mods now i've transitioned over to SE. i simply brought it up because i used both the workshop and vortex on LE, meaning i used mods from two differing sites, and it worked fine. i was wondering what is the difference between Vortex+bethesda on SE and Vortex+Workshop on LE, and if i was just lucky that i didn't hit a problem on LE. Sorry for any confusion.

Ah that makes sense.

It all depends on who you ask, some people do mix Nexus and Bethesda mods with no issues, others can't get their load orders sorted no matter what they do, it literally depends on who you ask.

ah i see. In that case ill probably continue as i am for now, and if do encounter any issues ill put them all on vortex. Thanks for the help.