All my saves are corrupt

[Otter]

Hello, I was wondering if I could get some help. So I am playing Skyrim SE with mods on it, however all of my save games keep being corrupted. The way it goes is that I start the game, make a character and explore the world. Everything seems fines. I then save the game and turn it off and return a few hours later only to get one of two errors. Either the game CTD after it is done loading or I get a message saying the file is corrupt and I am taken back to the main menu. I don't know why it is doing this and I have tested it with 4 different save games, all corrupted. I am not adding or removing any mods during the playthrough. The only error I am getting from the game during game-play is that when I open my map I get a message about an error with SKYUI and that something is overriding it. I'm not sure what is overriding SKYUI or why that message only appears when I look at the map, unless it is my map mod causing the issue. I use SSEEdit to clean all of my files and LOOT to organize it. Loot doesn't detect any issues or errors with my mods. I also use a Wrye Bash patch. If someone could please take a look at my Load Order or think of anything that could cause this issue, that would be greatly appreciated.

0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 RSkyrimChildren.esm
6 6 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
7 7 BSAssets.esm
8 8 BSHeartland.esm
9 9 RaceCompatibility.esm
10 a BS_DLC_patch.esp
11 b SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
12 c ELFX - Exteriors.esp
13 d Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp
254 FE 0 Qw_ISC_USSEP Patch.esp
14 e EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
15 f Book Covers Skyrim.esp
16 10 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
17 11 ELFX - Weathers.esp
18 12 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
19 13 EmbersHD.esp
20 14 SkyUI_SE.esp
21 15 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
22 16 dD-Reduced Wound Size.esp
23 17 FNIS.esp
360WalkandRunPlus-RunBackwardSpeedAdjust.esp
24 18 IcePenguinWorldMap.esp
25 19 Andromeda - Unique Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp
26 1a DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp
27 1b Facelight.esp
28 1c HearthfireMultiKid.esp
29 1d HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp
30 1e CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp
31 1f Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.esp
32 20 Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
33 21 Blues Skyrim.esp
34 22 TW3MO.esp
35 23 OBIS SE.esp
36 24 OpulentThievesGuild.esp
37 25 Man Those Borders!.esp
38 26 LC_BuildYourNobleHouse.esp
39 27 0Kaidan.esp
40 28 CWIELnFXSEPatch.esp
41 29 SPTConsistentOlderPeopleSE.esp
42 2a VioLens SE.esp
43 2b 3PCOFull.esp
44 2c Animallica.esp
45 2d dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
RSChildren Patch - BS Bruma.esp
46 2e GuildStarter.esp
47 2f Fort(ified) Dawnguard.esp
48 30 skyBirds_SSE.esp
49 31 OpulentOutfits_2017-SSE AIO.esp
50 32 Wintersun - Faiths of Skyrim.esp
51 33 Run For Your Lives.esp
52 34 Immersive Weapons.esp
53 35 KS_Hairdo's_Lite.esp
CBBE.esp
54 36 RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
55 37 RaceMenu.esp
56 38 XPMSE.esp
57 39 RaceMenuPlugin.esp
58 3a Bijin NPCs.esp
59 3b Bijin Wives.esp
60 3c CrimsonTwilightArmor.esp
61 3d SkyrimReputation_SSE.esp
62 3e iHUD.esp
63 3f Unique Uniques.esp
64 40 FranklyHDImperialArmorsAndWeapons.esp
65 41 Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp
tmtNecromancyNoAshPiles.esp
66 42 THMeeko.esp
67 43 Visible Favorited Gear.esp
68 44 Better Vampire NPCs.esp
69 45 RSChildren.esp
70 46 Inigo.esp
254 FE 1 Qw_BeyondSkyrimBruma_USSEP Hotfix Patch.esp
71 47 Immersive Patrols II.esp
72 48 sofiafollower.esp
254 FE 2 Qw_SofiaFollower_GDO Patch.esp
73 49 Recorder Follower Base.esp
74 4a notice board.esp
254 FE 3 Qw_SofiaFollower_USSEP Patch.esp
75 4b Lucien.esp
76 4c CWIOOSEPatchAIO.esp
77 4d naruto overhaul.esp
78 4e UchihaClan.esp
254 FE 4 Qw_BookCoversSkyrim_USSEP Patch.esp
79 4f The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
80 50 Bijin Warmaidens.esp
81 51 BlackSacramentArmor.esp
82 52 PathOfTheAntiMage.esp
83 53 DIVERSE SKYRIM.esp
84 54 XavierNecromancerFollower.esp
85 55 Better Vampires.esp
86 56 RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp
87 57 EBT - skyBirds Patch (mid).esp
88 58 12FemaleBrows.esp
89 59 Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
90 5a Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp
91 5b CWIOrdinatorPatchSSE.esp
92 5c Ordinator - Beyond Skyrim Bruma Patch.esp
93 5d Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp
94 5e Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp
95 5f Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
96 60 Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp
97 61 ELFXEnhancer.esp
98 62 RealisticWaterTwo.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Beyond Skyrim Bruma.esp
99 63 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp
100 64 Bashed Patch, 0.esp

[Iceira]

could be same as oldrim skyui map issue, in skyui turn off something that do a check version as i recall
https://github.com/schlangster/skyui/wiki/SkyUI-Errors#ERR_SWF_VERSION

i got this myself after change woldmap in olddrim.

ps.
it was not corrupt, just map warning

[Otter]

Originally posted by Iceira:

could be same as oldrim skyui map issue, in skyui turn off something that do a check version as i recall
https://github.com/schlangster/skyui/wiki/SkyUI-Errors#ERR_SWF_VERSION

i got this myself after change woldmap in olddrim.

ps.
it was not corrupt, just map warning

So I don't really understand what the page is saying to do. It's saying you have to pick one of the two mods. So I disabled the map mod and the game loaded, said it was corrupt and took me back to the main menu.

[Iceira]

well atleast you have ID now, ( its like it get corrupted then you access that area where content on map is then all go bad from there.

i cant says if Skyui has same turn off option in SE version ( still playthrough with no mods )

but i do recall that SWF turn off check version. ( olddrim issue )

[Otter]

Originally posted by Iceira:

well atleast you have ID now, ( its like it get corrupted then you access that area where content on map is then all go bad from there.

i cant says if Skyui has same turn off option in SE version ( still playthrough with no mods )

but i do recall that SWF turn off check version.

I've tired loading previous saves as well in different areas. The whole save file is corrupted. I want to try and disable SKYUI completely, but so many of my mods require it.

[Otter]

So I was looking at loot and it was saying this regarding my Sofia Follower Mod

"Includes an old script from SkyUI. This script ski_playerloadgamealias.pex must be deleted for SkyUI to function correctly"

Could that be causing the issue. It specifies SKYUI and mentions loadgame. I don't want to alter it in case I screw something up. If this is the issue where do I find this script?

[Iceira]

most of us is not modders, you need to contact them with it. there is no other way.

only choise we have is disable mod /erase crappy mods that screw up our game.

so contact skyui and sofie mod and explan that loot have a issue.

but yeah welcome to 101 hell, in mods solving issue.

and have you tryed the load order of those 2 sometimes that can also fix it, but in this case i doubt it.

[Uncle64]

It sounds like you have installed your mods in wrong order.
You may use one mod that contains old files that is overwriting new and fixed.

What modding tool do you use?
You will have need for reverting your game to one new fresh start.

Have you changed your load during your play?

[Otter]

Originally posted by Uncle64:

It sounds like you have installed your mods in wrong order.
You may use one mod that contains old files that is overwriting new and fixed.

What modding tool do you use?
You will have need for reverting your game to one new fresh start.

Have you changed your load during your play?

I use NMM. I don't think I installed in the wrong order though, but I'll double check. My load order has not changed during gameplay. I have tested some more things out though. I created a new game. Everything worked fine and I made sure not to open the map and get the error. I saved the game and turned Skyrim off. Came back and I still couldn't load the file. Perhaps that error isn't the issue. I also created another save where I walked around for a few minutes and then saved.That save loaded. I think it might have to do with how long I play.

[Uncle64]

NMM is outdated, you should consider update to Vortex or MO2.
NMM cant handle mods whit the new esl format not sure but it dont activate the plugins.

It dont have anything to do how long you have played, I have one 640+ hour in LE no issues at all. But if you do the modding wrong you will crash your save the first 10 hours.

Is there any reason you dont have the patches for Bruma inactive?

[Otter]

Originally posted by Uncle64:

NMM is outdated, you should consider update to Vortex or MO2.
NMM cant handle mods whit the new esl format not sure but it dont activate the plugins.

It dont have anything to do how long you have played, I have one 640+ hour in LE no issues at all. But if you do the modding wrong you will crash your save the first 10 hours.

Is there any reason you dont have the patches for Bruma inactive?

I was just noticing a pattern that if a play the game for a while the save becomes corrupted. I did try to use Mod Organizer but it was too confusing for me and I had no idea what I was doing. I'm not sure if I understand the Bruma question though. Are you saying that the patch I have should not be active? I did download the Patch provided by the mod author.

[Jeruzalem]

did you try deleting all SKSE and SKYUI files, and then reinstalling them? to me, skyui is as unstable as skyrim was at release, every time i add a mod, the game fails to load the first time afterwards and i need to reinstall skyui. turned out there was a mismatch between skyui and script extender. when one updates, the other lags behind.

[Uncle64]

They should be active and placed at the correct places.

Several of your mods are lose files mods, those must be installed in proper order since some mods shares files, they may use the same textures but different versions. You get my point.
All small errors in the load/install order may create small issues that will create savebloat.

I suggest you try MO2 again, it works well and are supported and gets updates regulary.
But as you say, it can be confusing from start since it have one steeper learning curve.
Check some tubes, there is several that are tryly good. Goopher is one of them.

[Uncle64]

Originally posted by *{GAF}*Jeruzalem:

did you try deleting all SKSE and SKYUI files, and then reinstalling them? to me, skyui is as unstable as skyrim was at release, every time i add a mod, the game fails to load the first time afterwards and i need to reinstall skyui. turned out there was a mismatch between skyui and script extender. when one updates, the other lags behind.

I should say that you have overwrited the script files whit wrong versions. Common modding error.

[Otter]

So I have uninstalled SKYUI and every mod that requires it. I reinstalled the mods in the order I think is correct. Just to see what would happen, I then ran Skyrim SE (Bethesda Launcher) without Special Edition Script Extender. I loaded my save and the game loaded into the world without CTD. The game gave me some errors about mods failing, probably because they couldn't use SESE. I was able to walk around for about 5 sec and then it CTD. It seems that something with the Script Extender isn't working right. Should I just uninstall it and reinstall it? If so, what is the safest way to remove it?

Update, I loaded another save and this one gave the errors at the start too, but it didn't CTD after playing.

[Otter]

Hello, So I ended up uninstalling all of my mods and then uninstalled Skyrim SE. I then re-installed it and then all of the mods. It fixed nothing and the problems are still there.