CTD on Fort Hraggstad

[Alibenrentai]

Been playing having a good time for a good couple of hours not having any crashes. When trying to play the join the legion quest and going to fort hraggstad my game crashes every single time. Not when actually entering the fort though when still outside going further in. No idea what's causing it. Here are the mods I use.

0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 RSkyrimChildren.esm
6 6 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
7 7 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
8 8 MajesticMountains_Landscape.esm
9 9 SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
10 a SkyUI_SE.esp
11 b Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp
12 c dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
13 d dD-Medium Script Range.esp
14 e EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
S3DTrees NextGenerationForests.esp
15 f Cutting Room Floor.esp
16 10 S3DLandscapes NextGenerationForests.esp
17 11 MajesticMountains_Moss.esp
18 12 Vivid WeathersSE.esp
19 13 IcePenguinWorldMap.esp
20 14 20 More Perk Points.esp
21 15 Veydosebrom.esp
22 16 CBBE.esp
23 17 RaceMenu.esp
24 18 RaceMenuPlugin.esp
25 19 WetandCold.esp
26 1a BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
27 1b RichMerchantsSkyrim_x5.esp
28 1c RSChildren.esp
29 1d Footprints.esp
30 1e beltfastenedquivers.esp
31 1f Immersive Weapons.esp
32 20 BlendedRoads.esp
33 21 Bijin AIO.esp
Bijin Wives.esp
Bijin NPCs.esp
Bijin Warmaidens.esp
34 22 DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp
35 23 RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
254 FE 0 Qw_BarenziahQuestMarkers_USSEP Patch.esp
254 FE 1 Qw_BijinAIO_CRF Patch.esp
254 FE 2 Qw_ISC_CRF Patch.esp
36 24 RSC CRF Patch.esp
37 25 SkyHUD.esp
38 26 Vivid Weathers SE - Classic.esp
254 FE 3 Vivid Weathers - Wet and Cold patch.esp
39 27 Trees in Cities.esp
40 28 MajesticMountains.esp
41 29 Run For Your Lives.esp
42 2a S3DRocks.esp
43 2b Serana.esp
44 2c The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
254 FE 4 Qw_S3DLandscapes_CRF Patch.esp
45 2d Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
46 2e Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
47 2f RealisticWaterTwo.esp
254 FE 5 RealisticWaterTwo - Watercolor.esp
254 FE 6 RealisticWaterTwo - ELFX Patch.esp

[Black Album]

First couple of questions .....

What mod manager do you use?
Have you used LOOT to sort your mods??

[Alibenrentai]

MO2 and yes. Loot only gives me "errors" of the DLC's you always get. Also of not when teleporting myself into the fort I get no crashes.

[Black Album]

It’s just that your load order does not look like it’s been sorted by LOOT

[Alibenrentai]

Looks like I exported the wrong list. Here's the one from Loot.

0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 RSkyrimChildren.esm
6 6 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
7 7 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
8 8 MajesticMountains_Landscape.esm
9 9 SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
10 a SkyUI_SE.esp
11 b Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp
12 c dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
13 d dD-Medium Script Range.esp
14 e EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
S3DTrees NextGenerationForests.esp
15 f Cutting Room Floor.esp
16 10 S3DLandscapes NextGenerationForests.esp
17 11 MajesticMountains_Moss.esp
18 12 Vivid WeathersSE.esp
19 13 IcePenguinWorldMap.esp
20 14 20 More Perk Points.esp
21 15 Veydosebrom.esp
22 16 CBBE.esp
23 17 RaceMenu.esp
24 18 RaceMenuPlugin.esp
25 19 WetandCold.esp
26 1a BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
27 1b RichMerchantsSkyrim_x5.esp
28 1c RSChildren.esp
29 1d Footprints.esp
30 1e beltfastenedquivers.esp
31 1f Immersive Weapons.esp
32 20 BlendedRoads.esp
33 21 Bijin AIO.esp
Bijin Wives.esp
Bijin NPCs.esp
Bijin Warmaidens.esp
34 22 DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp
35 23 RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
254 FE 0 Qw_BarenziahQuestMarkers_USSEP Patch.esp
254 FE 1 Qw_BijinAIO_CRF Patch.esp
254 FE 2 Qw_ISC_CRF Patch.esp
36 24 RSC CRF Patch.esp
37 25 SkyHUD.esp
38 26 Vivid Weathers SE - Classic.esp
254 FE 3 Vivid Weathers - Wet and Cold patch.esp
39 27 Trees in Cities.esp
40 28 MajesticMountains.esp
41 29 Run For Your Lives.esp
42 2a S3DRocks.esp
43 2b Serana.esp
44 2c The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
254 FE 4 Qw_S3DLandscapes_CRF Patch.esp
45 2d Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
46 2e Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
47 2f RealisticWaterTwo.esp
254 FE 5 RealisticWaterTwo - Watercolor.esp
254 FE 6 RealisticWaterTwo - ELFX Patch.esp

[Black Album]

Hi .... that’s better ... the real experts will be around before too long and will be able to go through your list much better than I can.

If I may suggest .... replace that old list with your new list in your 1st post .... so people don’t waste any time reading the wrong list.

[mainer]

Which Quality World Map file are you using (IcePenguinWorldMap.esp). For some reason, some of those files are form 43, while others are form 44. You can read about it in the posts section on the mod page. Don't know if that's your issue or not, but if you are using a form 43 mod, it's best to change in the CK, or switch to one of the form 44 files.

[smr1957]

Originally posted by dransaw:

Which Quality World Map file are you using (IcePenguinWorldMap.esp). For some reason, some of those files are form 43, while others are form 44. You can read about it in the posts section on the mod page. Don't know if that's your issue or not, but if you are using a form 43 mod, it's best to change in the CK, or switch to one of the form 44 files.

Form type is only relevant if the Form 43 mod contains critical errors due to not being updated . If there are not critical errors, than the mod does not require being updated to form 44. This is a misunstanding that many people have, in part brought about by people blindly saying that EVERY mod and its records need to be Form 44, and informed people finding easier to say all need to be updated because it is easier than explaining the particulars. In the vast majority of cases, CTDs are due to mod interaction - a CTD due to Form 43 is extremely rare to the point of being, for all practucal purposes, non-existent. Almost EVERY SINGE INSTANCE of a CTD has been found to be due to a poorly made mod or mod conflict, and NOT Form 43. Unfortunately, like many myths, it has become accepted wisdom. (In fact, converting some mods to Form 44 in the CK can break them as well - though this is also as rare as a CTD caused by wrong form).

So, to be safe, it is commonly recommended to convert from 43 to 44, it is by no means necessary in all cases, and when diagnosing CTD, that is the absolute last thing to look at, and only if no other solutions work (just because it is not a cause the vast majority of time - because, in fact - it is not really necessary in most cases)

[Alibenrentai]

I've started a new game with no mods and been going through them to see what could cause this and it seems it was the Skyrim 3D Trees and Plants. Seems like there is a different problem though since, while it worked when I had that mod disabled, when i installed a different tree mod, namely Simply Bigger Trees the crash was there again.

[smr1957]

Originally posted by Alibenrentai:

I've started a new game with no mods and been going through them to see what could cause this and it seems it was the Skyrim 3D Trees and Plants. Seems like there is a different problem though since, while it worked when I had that mod disabled, when i installed a different tree mod, namely Simply Bigger Trees the crash was there again.

If it is only when tree overhauls are installed, it could just be that the tree mods are too much for your PC to handle - some of them do add a good hit to the system.