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sudfhe Feb 24, 2020 @ 12:16am
I accidentally made it illogical (RP wise) to do the thieves guild quest as my current character
So basically, I've befriended Madesi by doing his little quest things, so it's hard for me to justify blackmailing him for a job opportunity given by some random guy I met in a pub. I also am playing a generally good willed character which makes me more reluctant to do any thieves guild stuff... Any way around this?

There's a bunch of loot and alot of opportunity to level up by doing the thieves guild questline.
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Gerdruids Feb 24, 2020 @ 12:20am 
then try thieves guild for good guys mod. found on the nexus.
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DrNewcenstein Feb 24, 2020 @ 12:58am 
Better yet, get the Destroy The Thieves Guild mod and wipe them out.
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sudfhe Feb 24, 2020 @ 1:12am 
I've thought about this, would be a good solution but I don't want to screw my save up if I get a new computer in the coming months (which I plan on doing)

Are there any workarounds you can think of in game, or maybe a realistic reason to ♥♥♥♥ over a mate and abandon morals?
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Magic Spazm Feb 24, 2020 @ 2:16am 
Ok then teleport all the thieves guild people into jail then or whatever makes you feel better.
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tulle040657 Feb 24, 2020 @ 3:48am 
Blackmailing Madesi? What are you talking about. All you do is borrow his ring and plant it on Brand-Shei. It gets found and returned to Madesi. What is the blackmail of which you speak?
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Rez Elwin Feb 24, 2020 @ 5:21am 
Originally posted by tulle040657:
Blackmailing Madesi? What are you talking about. All you do is borrow his ring and plant it on Brand-Shei. It gets found and returned to Madesi. What is the blackmail of which you speak?

OP must be mixing up Madesi and Talen-Jei, both have quests involving rings and are both Argonioan, easy mistake. But you blackmail Keerava not Talen but he still takes a disposition hit and when you have done his quest it is a bit weird, he greets you as a friend and tells you to leave at the same time.

@OP Thieves Guild for good guys is the best option, even if you get a new computer you can just install it again. It makes enough sense in-game you are joining the Thieves Guild, you are not Robin Hood, you are a criminal. At that point you are not actually in the guild yet, it is another test, and unlike the previous one you can not fail.
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Hobo Misanthropus Feb 24, 2020 @ 5:45pm 
The Thieves guild is not a "Good guy" guild. It's literally the Riften Mafia. It's like wanting to be a good Jeffrey Dahmer. I don't care what your motivations are, at the end of the day, eating people after fornicating with their spilled entrails is a bad guy thing.
Last edited by Hobo Misanthropus; Feb 24, 2020 @ 5:46pm
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Uncle64 Feb 24, 2020 @ 6:36pm 
I truly hate that quest line. I go whit destroy them.
That guild feels like it kills the game I dont know. Dont like them at all.
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an entire Roman legion Feb 25, 2020 @ 5:01am 
Originally posted by Uncle64:
I truly hate that quest line. I go whit destroy them.
That guild feels like it kills the game I dont know. Dont like them at all.

wat
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fauxpas Feb 25, 2020 @ 6:23am 
Originally posted by Hobo Misanthropus:
The Thieves guild is not a "Good guy" guild. It's literally the Riften Mafia. It's like wanting to be a good Jeffrey Dahmer. I don't care what your motivations are, at the end of the day, eating people after fornicating with their spilled entrails is a bad guy thing.


But, but, but .... I WAAAAANT to be a good guy and not miss out on any quest rewards! 😭


Milk drinkers. Ugh!
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DrNewcenstein Feb 25, 2020 @ 7:18am 
Oblivion's Thieves Guild story was way better, because, although you were a thief, and thieves deserve to die, stealing was entirely optional (at least the random B&E), and you were trying to help the Grey Fox regain his lost identity. Although you did ruin a man's glorious career to do it, so meh.

But Skyrim's Thieves Guild is closer to an actual gang of b*tch-@$$ hood thugs, and deserve to be slaughtered. Use the Configuration power to disable the Odhaviing requirement so you can get the letter implicating Maven in a murder plot against Mjoll, and you can let Mjoll kill her.

If you do it just right, you can command Jenassa to kill Brynjolf to get things started, which will aggro Sapphire and Maul, and they will get killed early as well.

You can still get the skeleton key and be a Nightingale, if that's what you're into. And you can still do the Stones of Barenziah, as well as buy Dark Brotherhood stuff from Delvin's ghost.
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alexander_dougherty Feb 25, 2020 @ 7:33am 
Originally posted by fauxpas:
Originally posted by Hobo Misanthropus:
The Thieves guild is not a "Good guy" guild. It's literally the Riften Mafia. It's like wanting to be a good Jeffrey Dahmer. I don't care what your motivations are, at the end of the day, eating people after fornicating with their spilled entrails is a bad guy thing.


But, but, but .... I WAAAAANT to be a good guy and not miss out on any quest rewards! 😭


Milk drinkers. Ugh!
I have to agree with you there.
If you want to get the rewards, then you have to get a bit grubby.... At least it's not the Dark Brotherhood, where you have to kill people for money to get the rewards.... Until some "Genius" yes the quote marks are indicating irony.... and? decides to do a Dark Brotherhood for good guys mod.
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fauxpas Feb 25, 2020 @ 8:39am 
Originally posted by alexander_dougherty:
Originally posted by fauxpas:


But, but, but .... I WAAAAANT to be a good guy and not miss out on any quest rewards! 😭


Milk drinkers. Ugh!
I have to agree with you there.
If you want to get the rewards, then you have to get a bit grubby.... At least it's not the Dark Brotherhood, where you have to kill people for money to get the rewards.... Until some "Genius" yes the quote marks are indicating irony.... and? decides to do a Dark Brotherhood for good guys mod.


Sadly, that mod already exists, although it's my understanding that it's more of a "let's make the targets villains so you don't feel so bad about killing them" thing.
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TehSpoopyKitteh Feb 25, 2020 @ 8:58am 
Originally posted by fauxpas:
Originally posted by Hobo Misanthropus:
The Thieves guild is not a "Good guy" guild. It's literally the Riften Mafia. It's like wanting to be a good Jeffrey Dahmer. I don't care what your motivations are, at the end of the day, eating people after fornicating with their spilled entrails is a bad guy thing.


But, but, but .... I WAAAAANT to be a good guy and not miss out on any quest rewards! 😭


Milk drinkers. Ugh!
Continue doing quests for the Guild. When confronted about Madesi, give that person a chance and investigate Madesi....

The Thieves Guild is an honorable organization. They keep the crimes of the rich people in Riftin at bay.
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alexander_dougherty Feb 25, 2020 @ 9:51am 
Originally posted by TehSpoopyKitteh:
Originally posted by fauxpas:


But, but, but .... I WAAAAANT to be a good guy and not miss out on any quest rewards! 😭


Milk drinkers. Ugh!
Continue doing quests for the Guild. When confronted about Madesi, give that person a chance and investigate Madesi....

The Thieves Guild is an honorable organization. They keep the crimes of the rich people in Riftin at bay.
Oh dear lord.....

They target rich people because rich people have the stuff worth stealing, they don't target the poor because the poor have very little worth stealing. Given to join them you have to FRAME an innocent vendor, it's safe to conclude that honour doesn't enter into the equation.
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