Alchemy potency.

[Golf Demon]

Someone has probably answered this before, but my rather inadequate google skills can’t find an answer, so i have a strange question. I know that adding more ingredients with the same effect does not increase the potency, but sometimes when i make poisons with absolutely no difference between one or the other in terms of skill or gear, only ingredients, the damage of one is almost double the other. At first I thought it was because the high damage one had -poison resist but i soon created another one with just damage health. And this isnt small increases from a level or so in alchemy, these are hugeincreases. Like from a base of 55 to all of a sudden 111 damage. The only thing I could find was that the high damage one used river betty. So, are there some ingredients that give stronger effects than others? Or was this just a strange glitch?

[DPMR]

Yes there is, and those are usaly the hardest to find.

[jreese46]

Deathbell and River Betty will give you considerably more damage (and a slowing effect) than Deathbell and Nightshade, which in turn is more damage than say Deathbell and Nirnroot. Some ingredients just react better, and others not so much. If you're looking for the strongest poison effect you can get, outside of Jarrin root, I haven't found anything better than Deathbell and River Betty yet.

It's been a while since I've played vanilla, but if I recall correctly, you can usually find several nightshade around Hamvir's Rest, up the road from Fort Greymoor.

[Golf Demon]

Thanks! It is interesting that there arent really any resources saying that different ingredients have different potencies. I feel like that would be good to know... I thought it was all the same if the effects matched up.

[voehringer_nitron]

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Alchemy_Effects

On the effects table, the little fire icon indicates non-standard magnitudes, while the coin is the resulting value.

[alexander_dougherty]

Originally posted by TehMerryMaynn:

I thought it was all the same if the effects matched up.

In real life different ingredients have different potencies, which makes herbal remedies problematic at times.

[jreese46]

Originally posted by voehringer_nitron:

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Alchemy_Effects

On the effects table, the little fire icon indicates non-standard magnitudes, while the coin is the resulting value.

I've come to view UESP as the best website in the world.

[jreese46]

Originally posted by TehMerryMaynn:

Thanks! It is interesting that there arent really any resources saying that different ingredients have different potencies. I feel like that would be good to know... I thought it was all the same if the effects matched up.

If it will help you any, what I usually do is a combination of recipes, taste testing, etc., to build the biggest list I can, in my alchemy menu. Then, when I want to make a potion, I click an ingredient, then click each other in turn, to see what changes, before I make anything.

[Golf Demon]

Thank you all for your help!

[mister_lobos]

try river betty, imp stool and slaughterfish scales (or slaughterfish eggs)
should do damage on hit and damage for xx seconds.. and i believe might be the most expensive damage doing combination you can make (outside of really rare ingredients like jarrin root)

also if you use "complete alchemy and cooking overhaul" it adds a bunch of new alchemy stuff.. new plants, new effects.