SSEEdit Cleaning?

[ShafeDogg]

Since SSEEdit has been getting updates, I was wondering what the proper way to clean master files is now. All the guides I've seen seem pretty dated. So what is the proper and most efficient way? Does the process change with new releases? Thanks for any help!

[cfs111]

What mod management tool do you use?

[ShafeDogg]

Vortex :)

[cfs111]

Ok, you need to set a start arguments in an xEdit shortcut. The following, section 5.3.2 is from Tome of xEdit it shows how to set it up...
https://tes5edit.github.io/docs/5-mod-cleaning-and-error-checking.html#s_5-3-2
Once set up then just run once on each master file

Then there are still a few manual edits that need to be made to Dawnguard, they are covered lower down in this post in the section titled Dawnguard.esm needs manual cleaning aswell as automatic cleaning....
https://afkmods.iguanadons.net/index.php?/topic/4110-manual-cleaning-skyrim-and-skyrim-se-master-files/

[ShafeDogg]

Thanks for the answer, I appreciate it a ton. You rock man.

[smr1957]

Also, the two guides listed in Helpful Links and References are both still accurate and are based on the afkmods cleaning guide linked by cfs.

[alexander_dougherty]

The guides might seem old and dated, but why change it when the basics haven't altered.

[ShafeDogg]

Originally posted by alexander_dougherty:

The guides might seem old and dated, but why change it when the basics haven't altered.

Alex, I just wanted to make sure I was doing things correctly. With most software, I'm a bit concerned when documentation is outdated. These things are important, especially when doing something like this. I'm glad the old guides still work. However, it would be much more helpful to at least look them over and make sure these guides are still relevant for the most recent versions of all of the editing tools. Even with a simple notation at the end, like "Current as of version 4.0.1 of SSEEdit." It would help tremendously.

[alexander_dougherty]

Originally posted by ShafeDogg:

Originally posted by alexander_dougherty:

The guides might seem old and dated, but why change it when the basics haven't altered.

Alex, I just wanted to make sure I was doing things correctly. With most software, I'm a bit concerned when documentation is outdated. These things are important, especially when doing something like this. I'm glad the old guides still work. However, it would be much more helpful to at least look them over and make sure these guides are still relevant for the most recent versions of all of the editing tools. Even with a simple notation at the end, like "Current as of version 4.0.1 of SSEEdit." It would help tremendously.

Fair enough, I can see why that would help.

[smr1957]

And I'll get right on that as soon as I start getting paid a salary - until then, people should consider it up to date as long as it is listed in Helpful Links and References.

[smr1957]

The instructions and manner in which the Masters are cleaned has not changed - you clean them exactly the same way as always. Just make sure you follow the instructions as written in the guide as linked by cfs111. Most problems in cleaning occur because people try to clean them without following the steps in the guide. For example, cleaning something twice that should only be cleaned once, or cleaning something once that needs to be cleaned twice. The numbers have changed only because of the manner in which the new version of xEdit works.

[cfs111]

Even though I only posted the second guide a couple weeks ago I should say that I now think it is actually outdated. It seems that the 4.0.x versions of xEdit -AutoQuickClean is the preferred method for cleaning the master files. It is easier and faster, it automatically applies the filter for cleaning, cleans itm and udr, saves and then repeats twice more for a total of three passes. I have cleaned the masters a number of times with the new method and it works as intended.

Section 5.3.2 of the Tome of xEdit has instructions for setting it up for non-MO2 users.
https://tes5edit.github.io/docs/5-mod-cleaning-and-error-checking.html#s_5-3-2


For MO2 in the Modify Executables dialogue for your xEdit you would add -autoquickclean -iknowwhatimdoing to the arguments field. Then run xEdit once for each master file.

Note: there are still two manual edits that must be made to Dawnguard, the afk guide is still good for that and is covered towards the bottom of the guide.

Just want to insure the most up to date information is made available.

[smr1957]

^What cfs posted above. Thanks for updating the info!

[cfs111]

And if you do use MO2 here is a pick of how to set it up. You would not use the -SSE argument that is there because I use only one xEdit exe.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1654867912

[Drengade]

Yeah... Except here's the thing... I don't want to automatically run through the mod multiple times buggering about with it. Many mods need their dirty edits, but not their ITMs. It was always just open it up, apply filter on one mod and screen for ITMs. about a two minute process, if that, per mod. Now i move to a new computer, and SSE, try to download the TESVedit equivalent, and they've created one useless launcher that just sarcastically tells you that you are doing it wrong, and then another that tries to do far too much and has failed twice to 'rename a plugin'. why the hell it's trying to rename a plugin I don't know. Frankly, i don't think it's worth trawling through files and command lines to try and fix a program so it works when it is far more simple to just use an older version. Seriously, if they wanted to add the feature, fine, but don't bugger up how it's worked for years, and even if you do, actually complete the program and don't expect the user to fiddle with it so it works themselves. The creators obviously know they buggered it up since they turned off comments in a hissy fit instead of actually taking on the criticism and giving people both options.

[Stormsong]

Originally posted by Drengade:

Many mods need their dirty edits, but not their ITMs.

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useless launcher that just sarcastically tells you that you are doing it wrong

xEdit has always had a roadside billboard sized box telling you don't touch it unless you know you should touch it.

failed twice to 'rename a plugin'.

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Also, this thread is pretty much dead, but I'm so curious I've got to add on to the zombie you've made.