Civil War Quest: Message to Whiterun bug

[Markus]

Hello, I joined the stormcloaks and have done the jagged crown mission and now im on the Message to Whiterun. Im supposed to give the Jarl of Whiterun an Axe and to do so i need to click on an dialogue option. However this dialogue option doesn't appear in the dialogue options. Only these dialogue options appear: "Whose side are you on?" "Why do you think Ulfric murdered the high king?" "How can you protect Whiterun from the dragons?"

I have finished the main quest and the only quests that i have are: "Message to Whiterun" "Dark Brotherhood forever" "Impatience of a saint" "No Stone unturned" "Return to your Roots" Are the only big quests i have. I have the axe that ulfric gave me. Only issue is that the dialogue doesnt appear. I've tried loading older saves, fast travelling to other places in Skyrim. But none of them have fixed it.

I hope someone has an idea about what the problem is.

[SpeedFreak1972]

sigh take your pick: https://www.google.be/search?ei=EZJhW7CDOoq00gWc_Ly4Bw&q=message+to+whiterun+bug&oq=message+to+whiterun+bug&gs_l=psy-ab.12...0.0.0.25119.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0....0...1c..64.psy-ab..0.0.0....0.42M6kd1x3bg

that was hard

[Markus]

None of these helped me, Most of them were bugged because the main quest wasn't finished. I also searched it up. But none of them helped me so i started up my own discussion. Well, im glad atleast someone responded.

[Markus]

Google doesn't fix all issues now does it?

[SpeedFreak1972]

yea sorry didn't realized it was with Balgruuf most of them are with Ullfric upon return

[Markus]

Yeah. No worries. This is a really buggy quest.

[GLsimtam]

Nay, Message To Whiterun is solid. It's Battle of Whiterun that gets ugly; sometimes it does not even start at all, and the bug report sticks to Message To Whiterun since that's the last quest listed in the journal then.

But you, sir, are in luck, your issue happened long before Battle of Whiterun is about to start, and it seems Message To Whiterun started successfully (cause it's listed in the quest journal). That's fairly easy to work with, whether you want to figure out the root cause, or just skip to the next quest stage.

[Markus]

I want to figure out how to make the dialogue appear. But im glad to hear that some things are working.

[Markus]

But yeah, skipping this quest and proceeding to the next one would be great, but i dont know how.

[GLsimtam]

Usually these help:
setstage cw03 20
-- skips to where jarl starts scene to give the answer
setstage cw03 50
-- skips to the end of that scene, gives you the axe back

The dialogue that should be available, though is

'Jarl Ulfric Stormcloak asked me to deliver this axe to you.' -> "Did he now? The man is persistent, I'll give him that.", CW03BalgruufTopic in CW03BalgruufBranch in CW03 quest, and you can find it in Creation Kit or SSEEdit, see the list of all conditions and use console commands to check which of those conditions are not true, for example

condition GetQuestRunning Quest: 'MQ302' == 0.00
-- check with console command "getqr mq302"
condition GetStageDone Quest: 'CW03', 20 == 0 .00
-- check with console command "sqs cw03"

[fauxpas]

Your best bet that is safest for your save game is to simply reload a game from before starting the quest and avoiding the console alltogether though.

[bLaCkShAd0w]

Originally posted by GLsimtam:

Usually these help:
setstage cw03 20
-- skips to where jarl starts scene to give the answer
setstage cw03 50
-- skips to the end of that scene, gives you the axe back

The dialogue that should be available, though is

'Jarl Ulfric Stormcloak asked me to deliver this axe to you.' -> "Did he now? The man is persistent, I'll give him that.", CW03BalgruufTopic in CW03BalgruufBranch in CW03 quest, and you can find it in Creation Kit or SSEEdit, see the list of all conditions and use console commands to check which of those conditions are not true, for example

condition GetQuestRunning Quest: 'MQ302' == 0.00
-- check with console command "getqr mq302"
condition GetStageDone Quest: 'CW03', 20 == 0 .00
-- check with console command "sqs cw03"

This more than likely will result in game breaking issues, You should never have to console a quest stage ahead, Use the unofficial patch instead, They have gone through and properly edited all variables, Using a few console commands to "skip" portions of a quest will not properly change all factors, Especially skipping stages from 30-50 for example.

Bethesda themselves admit consoke commands can break your save, And unfortunately the patch doesnt resolve all issues in an ongoing game, Best to start fresh.

There are plenty of good guides on these forums for a proper stable modded game.

[Markus]

Yeah,i dont think im going to use those commands. But i'll try to find a save before that whole quest. Not right now though i'll do it later.

[GLsimtam]

Yeah yeah, the setstage commands are so that you could make sure that you still have CW03 running.

If that dialogue is broken because MQ302 is running, you will run into same problem somewhere down the civil war quest line, for sure.

[Markus]

Hmm i cant find an save before the message of whiterun quest. so i guess im ♥♥♥♥♥♥?

[Felwalker]

How did you finish the main quest but not resolve the civil war?