I cant enter Solitude - crash to desktop

[CMDR Cedorn]

Strange problem - I cant enter Solitude (crash) - BUT with this same mods i can enter on new character (just test character by enter coc in main menu).

So, what can I do?

[Bee🐝]

You might have to do the ol' "turn off mods one by one" dance to see where the conflict is. I'd start with the big mods first and work from there. Also, check their Nexus pages to make sure you downloaded any patches they might need. Yeah, it's pretty snore inducing process, but it works.

LOOT is amazing 98% of the time but it can miss smaller things.

[smr1957]

LOOT is to sort load orders, not to determine if mods are conflicting. The only conflicts it will pick up are missing masters or where a mod author has directly informed the LOOT team of a conflict - and that last may not be correct either.

The only ways of determing if mods are conflicting (without going through the whole install each mod and test a few at a time thing) is twofold:
First, thoroughly read the mods' description pages and read through the Posts pages;
Second, use xEdit to see conflicts.

To use xEdit, see this vid by GamerPoets (be aware, however, that using xEdit is involved, and NOT recommended if you do not know what you are doing and are not totally comfortable doing it):
GamerPoets video tutorial on using xEdit:
https://youtu.be/2F19Do8HAl4

[Grumpy]

LOOT is not a "find all problems in my game software" software. it mostly just sorts your list

as for the problem, do you have this problem in other town, too? or is it solitude exclusive?

EDIT: partially ninja'd by smr :O

[fauxpas]

Originally posted by Cedorn:

Originally posted by fauxpas:

If after doing a proper test you still crash then its a mod conflict.

Oh, there iis still crash. But idk where conflict is. Loot tells that all is good :/

Something that I find interesting is that the default test character doesn't crash while yours does; describe exactly what happens when the test character enters Solitude; does the execution scene play out?

[alexander_dougherty]

OP still needs to post his load order, it's not enough to say you've used LOOT, LOOT is just the first step, and clearly you are having issues, SO POST YOUR LOAD ORDER.

[Grumpy]

Originally posted by alexander_dougherty:

OP still needs to post his load order, it's not enough to say you've used LOOT, LOOT is just the first step, and clearly you are having issues, SO POST YOUR LOAD ORDER.

he used modwatch :o

[smr1957]

Mod watch is good for looking to see what mods a person may have - out of curiosity; but not for troubleshooting where we may have to constantly refer to it.

To post your load order, just click on the 3 verticle dots in the upper right corner of LOOT screen, click on copy load order from the drop-down menu, and then paste into the thread's reply box by right clicking mouse.

[CMDR Cedorn]

Originally posted by smr1957:

Mod watch is good for looking to see what mods a person may have - out of curiosity; but not for troubleshooting where we may have to constantly refer to it.

To post your load order, just click on the 3 verticle dots in the upper right corner of LOOT screen, click on copy load order from the drop-down menu, and then paste into the thread's reply box by right clicking mouse.

Ok

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[CMDR Cedorn]

Originally posted by fauxpas:

Originally posted by Cedorn:

Oh, there iis still crash. But idk where conflict is. Loot tells that all is good :/

Something that I find interesting is that the default test character doesn't crash while yours does; describe exactly what happens when the test character enters Solitude; does the execution scene play out?

Yep - thet is intresting for me too - my main character cant enter, my test character with same look and made like main character cant enter as well BUT bethesda test character can enter and all is good - all of it on the same pack of mods...

So, what is happening when Im trying to enter - game just crash. execution dont play - just black screen and crash to desktop.

[alexander_dougherty]

Are ClimatesofTamriel and TrueStorms compatable?
since they both modify weather.
(I just know you have to be careful with mods that change the same thing especially weather)

[CMDR Cedorn]

Originally posted by alexander_dougherty:

Are ClimatesofTamriel and TrueStorms compatable?
since they both modify weather.
(I just know you have to be careful with mods that change the same thing especially weather)

Ok, I'll disable True Storms then

[Godling]

Originally posted by Cedorn:

Originally posted by alexander_dougherty:

Are ClimatesofTamriel and TrueStorms compatable?
since they both modify weather.
(I just know you have to be careful with mods that change the same thing especially weather)

Ok, I'll disable True Storms then

Just fyi, if you don't really want to give up Truestorms and you're willing to change weather mods (assuming you're not using CoT for it's "all winter" option) there are quite a number of other weather mods that have, or even come with, compatibility patches for Truestorms (Vivid, Obsidian, NAT, Dolomite, Rustic, Mythical, and ELFX Weathers).

[CMDR Cedorn]

Originally posted by Toasted:

Originally posted by Cedorn:

Ok, I'll disable True Storms then

Just fyi, if you don't really want to give up Truestorms and you're willing to change weather mods (assuming you're not using CoT for it's "all winter" option) there are quite a number of other weather mods that have, or even come with, compatibility patches for Truestorms (Vivid, Obsidian, NAT, Dolomite, Rustic, Mythical, and ELFX Weathers).

So, do You think that what I should is uninstall CoT and install (for example) Vivid instead?


Btw - I just notice another strange crash - not in a city, but between Winterhold and Whiterun - on the road where Cycero showing up first time. But i heve been in Whiterun and Winterhold as well and game no crashed...

Still I have not idea what is purpose of this.

I had an Idea when (today) some women models have strange missing textures - but it was my mistake, I found fix easly there: https://www.reddit.com/r/skyrimmods/comments/6gya39/females_have_no_head_and_purple_bodies/

[alexander_dougherty]

Originally posted by Cedorn:

Originally posted by alexander_dougherty:

Are ClimatesofTamriel and TrueStorms compatable?
since they both modify weather.
(I just know you have to be careful with mods that change the same thing especially weather)

Ok, I'll disable True Storms then

I was just asking if they are compatable!, since I don't actually know,

I was hoping somebody else would say if they are compatable or not.

Originally posted by Toasted:

Originally posted by Cedorn:

Ok, I'll disable True Storms then

Just fyi, if you don't really want to give up Truestorms and you're willing to change weather mods (assuming you're not using CoT for it's "all winter" option) there are quite a number of other weather mods that have, or even come with, compatibility patches for Truestorms (Vivid, Obsidian, NAT, Dolomite, Rustic, Mythical, and ELFX Weathers).

Ok, so there might be a patch if they aren't compatable.

[CMDR Cedorn]

Originally posted by author:

I was just asking if they are compatable!, since I don't actually know,

Yup i know it. But I just try anything now :P