UNP Female Body Renewal vs. Caliente's Beautiful Bodies Edition -CBBE

[Echobaby]

I've installed and activated UNP Female Body Renewal. In looking at some other mods I noticed that some standalone followers (Yvonne - A Standalone Follower SSE, for example) lists CBP Physics as a requirement. However, CBP Physics lists Caliente's Beautiful Bodies Edition -CBBE as a requirement. I'm wondering if I'm going to have compatibility problems if I install and activate Caliente's Beautiful Bodies while keeping UNP Female Body Renewal also activated. I haven't actually started playing yet...I've been searching the mods, downloading the recommended ones while trying at all costs to avoid compatibility problems. CBBE and UNP Female Body Renewal are each required mods for many other mods. It looks like I have to go with one or the other but not both? And if I do have to go with one or the other, and stick with UNP Female Body Renewal, then I should give up on Yvonne-A Standalone Follower (and any other mod requireing CBP Physics)?

[Rez Elwin]

CBP Physics doesn't require CBBE, read the page requirements again. You also only need that for physics, isn't actually a requirement for the character itself.

[MysticMalevolence]

You can't install the both because they both change the same thing.
Anyhow, searching it up, the requiremebts for CBP state thus:

Requires SKSE 2.0.6 Alpha
Requires XP32 Maximum Skeleton Special Extended - XPMSSE
YOU MUST USE THE HDT SKELETON, not the BBP one, available in 4.2
Requires FNIS - run it after installing the skeleton.
Requires a body replacer with bone weights for Breast/Butt/Belly, CBBE Physics body only has weights for Breast and Butt, so you won't get any belly bounce. UUNP has all 3. Also None of the new CBBE armor I've tried has weights currently.

Which, if anything, is saying not to use CBBE.

[Echobaby]

Rez, it looks like for CBP Physics to do anything it needs a body replacer, but not necessarily CBBE. I'm trying to make sense out of this.

Dylan, what does that line about UUNP mean? Is UNP Female Body Renewal (which I've already got installed) a valid body replacer meeting the requirements for CBP Physics? I already installed XPMSSE and FNIS (though I can't remember why right now, other then they were a requirement for something! I've got 28 mods installed now, using NMM for the installation and Loot for the order.

[Rez Elwin]

Publicado originalmente por Echobaby:

Rez, it looks like for CBP Physics to do anything it needs a body replacer, but not necessarily CBBE. I'm trying to make sense out of this.

Dylan, what does that line about UUNP mean? Is UNP Female Body Renewal (which I've already got installed) a valid body replacer meeting the requirements for CBP Physics? I already installed XPMSSE and FNIS (though I can't remember why right now, other then they were a requirement for something! I've got 28 mods installed now, using NMM for the installation and Loot for the order.

It does need a replacer one that has physics capabilities. The requirements state that CBBE only has Breast and Butt physics but not belly.

I can also answer you other question; UUNP means Unified UNP which allows you to morph UNP to any preset based off of it. To be more specific is will match the armor to your Unp body no matter what slider you select in Bodyslide. When its says UUNP has all 3 it means it has Breast, Butt, and Belly physics.

You needed XPMSSE for custom skeletons so you can have Physics and more complex animations in general, which is what FNIS handles.

[Echobaby]

It does need a replacer one that has physics capabilities. The requirements state that CBBE only has Breast and Butt physics but not belly.

I can also answer you other question; UUNP means Unified UNP which allows you to morph UNP to any preset based off of it. To be more specific is will match the armor to your Unp body no matter what slider you select in Bodyslide. When its says UUNP has all 3 it means it has Breast, Butt, and Belly physics.

You needed XPMSSE for custom skeletons so you can have Physics and more complex animations in general, which is what FNIS handles.

Thanks for that information. I just noticed these requirements on the UNP Female Body Renewal:

Requirements for T/BBP version (The game will crash if you don't have this)
XP32 Maximum Skeleton Special Extended - XPMSSE (Remember to tick either the BBP rig map or the HDT rig map)

Bounce by Physics
CBP Physics (SKSE64Alpha required)

Bounce by Animation (Install only one)
360 Walk and Run Plus Seems to be for player only, must tick the BBP option
Dragonfly BBP animation for SE For all female NPCs
opparco TBBP animation

Armor and Clothing replacer (Choose only one)
UNP Body Fit Armors and Clothing by Shiva182 (Has Static and TBBP meshes)
UNP Body Fit Armors by Wareagle545 (Only Static) (Check the comments for a bug fixed version done by Shiva182)

Bodyslide: UUNP Vanilla Outfits Bodyslides SE

I'm not sure what all that means, but I'm guessing that I need SKSE64 Alpha, one of the Bounce by Animation mods, one of the Armor and Clothing replacer mods, and the Bodyslide in order for the UNP Female Body Renewal to work right?

[Rez Elwin]

Publicado originalmente por Echobaby:

It does need a replacer one that has physics capabilities. The requirements state that CBBE only has Breast and Butt physics but not belly.

I can also answer you other question; UUNP means Unified UNP which allows you to morph UNP to any preset based off of it. To be more specific is will match the armor to your Unp body no matter what slider you select in Bodyslide. When its says UUNP has all 3 it means it has Breast, Butt, and Belly physics.

You needed XPMSSE for custom skeletons so you can have Physics and more complex animations in general, which is what FNIS handles.

Thanks for that information. I just noticed these requirements on the UNP Female Body Renewal:

Requirements for T/BBP version (The game will crash if you don't have this)
XP32 Maximum Skeleton Special Extended - XPMSSE (Remember to tick either the BBP rig map or the HDT rig map)

Bounce by Physics
CBP Physics (SKSE64Alpha required)

Bounce by Animation (Install only one)
360 Walk and Run Plus Seems to be for player only, must tick the BBP option
Dragonfly BBP animation for SE For all female NPCs
opparco TBBP animation

Armor and Clothing replacer (Choose only one)
UNP Body Fit Armors and Clothing by Shiva182 (Has Static and TBBP meshes)
UNP Body Fit Armors by Wareagle545 (Only Static) (Check the comments for a bug fixed version done by Shiva182)

Bodyslide: UUNP Vanilla Outfits Bodyslides SE

I'm not sure what all that means, but I'm guessing that I need SKSE64 Alpha, one of the Bounce by Animation mods, one of the Armor and Clothing replacer mods, and the Bodyslide in order for the UNP Female Body Renewal to work right?

For UNP (only unp?) to work you don't need anything. All the other stuff is optional Those are only requirements when using T/BBP. Bounce is optional walking and armors are optional. You will want one of the body fit armors to keep your shape when putting armor on though.

[Echobaby]

Okay. So I'll download one of the Armor and Clothing replacers. I'm not sure what the bounce is, so I won't worry about it. I'll get the UNP Body Fit Armors and Clothing by Shiva182 since it has both types. And for the time being I'm not going to do anything with CBP Physics. Thank you for all your help.

[Rez Elwin]

Publicado originalmente por Echobaby:

Okay. So I'll download one of the Armor and Clothing replacers. I'm not sure what the bounce is, so I won't worry about it. I'll get the UNP Body Fit Armors and Clothing by Shiva182 since it has both types. And for the time being I'm not going to do anything with CBP Physics. Thank you for all your help.

You're welcome.

Bounce is simply Breast and Butt movement when your character moves around. Don't really need to worry about it.

[Foxy R]

So what I've found to be the best work around to getting UUNP to work right is to download the oldrim copy of bodyslide and use SSE nif optimizer and copy files from 02 UUNP folder to <your Skyrim SE location>\Data\CalienteTools\BodySlide. Just make sure you've converted the files over with the optimizer, otherwise it might jack up your textures or cause some other strange bug.

From there, you can actually use your SSE Bodyslide like normal, except selecting your relevant physics oriented UNP body instead of a CBBE. Basically anything UUNP that you want you'll have to manually convert over to SSE because Bodyslide no longer specifically supports UUNP. They just don't want to mess with all the sliders, to paraphrase.