Serana, "The HOT vampire chick"

[Maxokll]

Do you ever get a shot at marriage with this one? I'm playing an unmolested, no mod game.

[MysticMalevolence]

Not in vanilla. And I believe the oldrim mod for it hasn't been officially ported yet.

You can ask her after the story is over, but she will refuse on the grounds that she's afraid of temples. Despite this she will follow you into temples.

[Maxokll]

Originally posted by Dylan the Cartographer:

Not in vanilla. And I believe the oldrim mod for it hasn't been officially ported yet.

You can ask her after the story is over, but she will refuse on the grounds that she's afraid of temples. Despite this she will follow you into temples.

Bummer! She's doing that now. She's still cool to hang with. She definatelty makes the other's look WEAK by comparison.

[Maxokll]

PS, I'm pn the "SPECIAL EDITION" PC, of course. That's a heads up for the 900 console guys that'll blast me!

[Biggie Cheese]

any reaon for not using mods?

for that you might as well play on console.

[fauxpas]

If the answer is achievements, there us a mod that reallows them in modded games.

[Maxokll]

Originally posted by BasedBundles:

any reaon for not using mods?

for that you might as well play on console.

The reason I don't use mods is simple. I never in a million years thought I'd be into this game. My son got it for me and now I'm hooked! (coming from a COD mind set). Using mods reminds me of the days where everyone and their cousin were using CHEAT CODES to get through a game. That right there is a turn off. Play it as intended. Maybe if I'd been playing this for the last 7 years or whatever, I'd consider it. This game is like NEW to me, where others have 100,000 hrs on it. Just trying to keep it real.

[Maxokll]

Originally posted by fauxpas:

If the answer is achievements, there us a mod that reallows them in modded games.

Getting the achievments is cool, yes. Most of the time when I ask something on here is just to get a hint or a nudge in the right direction. Because, honestly, doing the same ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ quest 100 times grows tiring!

[Solomon Hawk]

Serana may by "hot", but really ... she's better at being your buddy.
I'd hate to hear that repetative and grossly boring dialog that we get with "married" characters..

[Bomb Bloke]

Originally posted by Maxokll:

Using mods reminds me of the days where everyone and their cousin were using CHEAT CODES to get through a game. That right there is a turn off. Play it as intended.

Playing this game "as intended" is pretty much impossible: it's so riddled with bugs that you'll often run into quests that can't be cleared short of opening up the debug console and, well... entering what amounts to "cheat codes".

It's strongly recommended to at least install the unofficial patches[www.nexusmods.com]. At this point, many players don't even consider them to be a "mod".

[SpeedFreak1972]

indeed the unofficial patch is a necessity I mean the game is riddled with bugs even complete quest breaking bugs. Also if the game intended without mods why does CC exist and the official mod pages on Bethesda.net? If nexus is to difficult the patch is also to be found on Bethesda.net

[Maxokll]

I certainly appreciate the heads up on this stuff!! Seriously. I just didn't want to fall into the, "CHEATED YOUR WAY THROUGH!" crowd. They're out there and jump at the first chance to smash your nads about it!

[fauxpas]

Single ... Player ... Game


I mean seriously, even if you did choose to install a "God Mode" mod (I'm sure they exist, but so do mods that make the game more challenging. ), why would you care what a group of people who apparently have nothing better to do than judge you on a. ... SINGLE ... PLAYER .. GAME?

[Maxokll]

Originally posted by fauxpas:

Single ... Player ... Game


I mean seriously, even if you did choose to install a "God Mode" mod (I'm sure they exist, but so do mods that make the game more challenging. ), why would you care what a group of people who apparently have nothing better to do than judge you on a. ... SINGLE ... PLAYER .. GAME?

It's not that I really give a ♥♥♥♥, BUT, I feel better saying, "Yeah, I did it clean!" That probably sounds stupid but I've been critizized brutally on COD, being ACCUSED of cheating because I'm that good at it. It just pisses me off, that's all.

[ZaggRukk]

Originally posted by Maxokll:

I certainly appreciate the heads up on this stuff!! Seriously. I just didn't want to fall into the, "CHEATED YOUR WAY THROUGH!" crowd. They're out there and jump at the first chance to smash your nads about it!

So you are aware, unmodded has two very game breaking problems. I had GOTY on 360 and couldn't complete the main game because of them. One won't let you finish the main story line and the other prevents you from ever finishing the dlc main story on the island. I just came across the two encounters, but I don't remember exactly what they are. Look into this, so you can try and avoid them. There are mods that can put certain quests on hold until a certain level so that the encounters don't ruin the game. As you are playing unmodded, as I did for 300 hours before it bugged out on me, I suggest you look into to these issues. Just playing as intended will give you hundreds of hours of worthwhile gaming, even if it is just fetch and return quests.

The beauty of mods, is that there are loads of mods that don't do anything relatively close to even being considered cheating. Keep that in mind. Everything from general fixes like the unofficial patch to graphical and performance improvements. And from what I've seen, there are plenty of quality mods that add new stories that are, in some cases better than the dlc that BGS made! So, don't count mods out yet. I hear what you're saying. I stayed away from mods for decades (for the most part) because of what they can do as far as cheating. But, they are so much more.

[Maxokll]

I guess I'm going to have to do some homework on this. My son is into doing the mod thing, as where I'm lost. I'm the hardware guy. I can build you the sickest PC you ever saw! Software on the otherhand is, eeh. I can make it work, the rest is up to you kinda thing. But what you're saying makes a WHOLE lot more sense than waht I've been told.