The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Special Edition

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Nova May 29, 2018 @ 7:08am
Real life culture inspiration.
I made a list of what real life cultures i think the elder scrolls races and provinces are inspired by.
I know this has been done before but this is my list.
Khajits are based on ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ (Elsewyr)
Nords are based on Scandinavian Vikings (Skyrim)
Orcs are based on Mongols (Orsinium and orcish tribes in Skyrim)
Bretons are based on Celtics (High Rock)
Redguards are based on Africans, or Ottomans (Hammerfall)
Imperials are based on Roman imperials (Cyrodil)
Altmer (high elves) are based on Dynastic Chinese (Summerset Isles)
Dunmer (dark elves) are based on Feudal Japan (Morrowind)
Argonians are based on South American tribes (Black Marsh, also sometimes called Argonia)
And the bosmer (wood elves) are based on Native Americans. (Valenwood)
Tell me what you agree/disagree with and ill try to answer any questions you might have about why i chose certain things.
And if you wanna know why i did this, i was bored and had the idea.
Last edited by Nova; May 29, 2018 @ 7:16am
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Zsrai May 29, 2018 @ 8:25am 
Originally posted by Ractii_7:
Khajits are based on ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ (Elsewyr)
Yeah, the stereotype of the Roma people anyways.
Originally posted by Ractii_7:
Nords are based on Scandinavian Vikings (Skyrim)
No argument there, they've always been a direct comparison to Vikings (again, stereotypically based).
Originally posted by Ractii_7:
Orcs are based on Mongols (Orsinium and orcish tribes in Skyrim)
Pretty much, they had Mongol influences (their armor and other aesthetics) in Morrowind and I think Daggerfall (haven't played the latter at all).
Originally posted by Ractii_7:
Bretons are based on Celtics (High Rock)
I'd say more of Arthurian England, which while Celtic was also influenced by French feudalism; either the original or the most popular version was written by a Frenchman IIRC. They get the whole generic "European High Middle Ages" thing on with the thousand different city states and the intrigue and plotting they specialize in.
Originally posted by Ractii_7:
Redguards are based on Africans, or Ottomans (Hammerfall)
Pretty much North African pirates, and also the early Islamic expansion period. They are accomplished pirates, invaded and took over Hammerfell, etc.
Originally posted by Ractii_7:
Imperials are based on Roman imperials (Cyrodil)
No real debate there. If you get down to the nitty-gritty, the Colovians are the more war-like Romans and the Nibeneans are the more philosophical and trade minded Greeks/Anatollians/Phoenicians. Together they make Imperial culture, which is a generic "Mediterreanean" in RL terms.
Originally posted by Ractii_7:
Altmer (high elves) are based on Dynastic Chinese (Summerset Isles)
They have a lot of Japanese cultural themes too (just not stereotypical Samurai), so I'd say a little more East Asian in general than just Chinese.
Originally posted by Ractii_7:
Dunmer (dark elves) are based on Feudal Japan (Morrowind)
They have an East Asian flair for sure, but I think they are more based on generic Imperial Court Intrigue kind of things. That and they got really ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ outlandish in Morrowind (in a good way), way more than any other culture has in the lore, so I have a hard time pinning them to a RL cultural analogy.
Originally posted by Ractii_7:
Argonians are based on South American tribes (Black Marsh, also sometimes called Argonia)
I would say more Central African tribes, with the whole "Dark Continent" thing going on in Argonia. It's never been explored, full of diseases, the people are viewed as complete outsiders, etc.
Originally posted by Ractii_7:
And the bosmer (wood elves) are based on Native Americans. (Valenwood)
I think Bosmer as just based on a twist of generic Fantasy Elves. They love the forests but are cannibals. They aren't peaceful hippies but pretty warlike hunters. I don't think they have much of a RL counterpart at all because of that.
Sinsling May 29, 2018 @ 8:30am 
@Zsria it is important to remember that Morrowind's dunmer are not natural dunmers.

To be more specific, they consider themselves true "dunmer" and hate being referred to as "dark elves".
BuggyFromOnePiece May 29, 2018 @ 9:16am 
Originally posted by Ractii_7:
I made a list of what real life cultures i think the elder scrolls races and provinces are inspired by.
I know this has been done before but this is my list.
Khajits are based on ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ (Elsewyr)
Nords are based on Scandinavian Vikings (Skyrim)
Orcs are based on Mongols (Orsinium and orcish tribes in Skyrim)
Bretons are based on Celtics (High Rock)
Redguards are based on Africans, or Ottomans (Hammerfall)
Imperials are based on Roman imperials (Cyrodil)
Altmer (high elves) are based on Dynastic Chinese (Summerset Isles)
Dunmer (dark elves) are based on Feudal Japan (Morrowind)
Argonians are based on South American tribes (Black Marsh, also sometimes called Argonia)
And the bosmer (wood elves) are based on Native Americans. (Valenwood)
Tell me what you agree/disagree with and ill try to answer any questions you might have about why i chose certain things.
And if you wanna know why i did this, i was bored and had the idea.
and the storm cloak is republicans stereotyped and the other thing is libreals
Nova May 29, 2018 @ 11:50am 
But the stormcloaks arent a race of people or a culture of people lmao
Nova May 29, 2018 @ 11:50am 
The one im least sure about is the dunmer.
Sinsling May 29, 2018 @ 11:58am 
I wonder if Mongols or Korean would be closer for dunmer.
Nova May 29, 2018 @ 12:00pm 
Korean sounds more like them than mongols
Sinsling May 29, 2018 @ 12:06pm 
Originally posted by Ractii_7:
Korean sounds more like them than mongols
Mongols work based on my limited understanding of their history though.

Very tribal -> leader -> overthrow large neighbor -> sort of break apart, come out changed.
Nova May 29, 2018 @ 12:12pm 
But i mean the aesthetic and the naming of things from their culture. orcs are a lot more mongol like than the dunmer.
Maxtor Dec 1, 2020 @ 12:32am 
Berst answer and culturaly accurate:

https://elderscrolls.fandom.com/f/p/3100000000000015624
Rasbarry
13/07/2019


The best part of The Elder Scrolls is that most events are taken from real history. Tamriel is made of all lands around the Mediterranean (Europe, North Africa, Middle East) where as Akavir is Asia.





Tamriel



Nords: The Nordic people of Norway, Sweden, Denmark, and Iceland. Fierce, hardy people with a love of war and raiding. Heavy tradition in sailing.



Imperials: . The Latin residents of Roman Italy. They conquered most of the known world into an empire. Clever, cunning, and war loving.



Bretons: The French celts of Britany. The Bretons and Normans lived on the rocky shores of France. They were smart and could easily adapt anywhere.



Redguards: The Mauritanian rulers of al-Andrusia. The Moors were swordsingers, and trained in the way of the blade. They left North Africa to live in Arab Iberia. Fast, slick, and seemed to be outsiders to the other races in Iberia.



Dunmer: The refugees fleeing to Israel. The Israelites fled their original home, following the prophet Moses, to their new promised land. But after disaster and invasion, they fled in an exodus to far corners of earth, where they’d be treated like second class citizens.



Bosmer: The Celtic people of Northern Europe. The Celts were a group of people from Turkey to Iberia. They thrives in the woodlands of Germany and Poland. They had animalistic beliefs and shamanic rituals. Far from their Irish and Scottish counterparts, these celts were more docile and were ruled by many empires.



Altmer: The Iranian people of the isolated east. The Persians lived in the isolated valleys and deserts of Iran. They were cut off from most cultures and developed their own. They expanded their will on their neighbors, and had a superiority complex as they watched their empire grow.



Khajiit: The desert nomads of the Sahara. The Berbers are a people that conquered the harsh deserts with trade and camels. They connected Carthage, Ghana, Mali, Arabic, Nubia, and Egypt along their routes. They were seen as lowly people, and weren’t trusted by city dwellers.



Argonians: A mix of the slaves. The Slavs are the reason we have the word slave. These Eastern Europeans served under Rome. The lucky ones stayed deep in the forest and mountains, staying true to their culture. The Kongolese lived in the Knog rainforest of Africa. They developed a strong cultural bond with the woodlands, and could survive the deadly plagues within. They were here eventually conquered by King Leopold of Belgium.



Orcs: The barbarians who swept through Europe. The Huns, Visigoths, and Vandals raided through Europe and the Roman Empire. They were seen as savages by most. They had few organized settlements, the only safe one being in the mountains of Hungary. The Vandals and Goths raider Rome to the ground through savagery and cunning.



Snow Elves: The icy people of the far north. The Sami lived in Scandinavia before the Germanic and Nordic peoples. They are extremely present in Iceland and Finland. They bare an ancient and distinct culture that is nearly dead.



Sload: Possibly the people of the Black Sea due to them bringing forth the Bubonic Plague from their ships heading for Europe.





Akavir



Tsaesci: The isolated islanders of Asia. The Japanese lived in an lonely archipelago. They developed their “superior culture” away from the world. They killed those who were imperfect, and attacked those they saw as unequals.



Ka Po Tun: The residents of the Middle Kingdom. The Chinese were always in constant flux. They would continually create an empire and break apart. They were subject to raids from Japan. They, however, would eventually rise up against their rivals and win the wars.



Tang-Mo: The Koreans of the island dotted peninsula. The Koreans lived in constant fear of invasion. Between the Mongol invasions and the Japanese Navy, they were only safe in their home. Their, they’d find the strength to fight back, even getting help from their Chinese cousins.



Kamal: The infamous horsemen of the steppes. The Mongolians were seen as the worst threat to the world. They conquered and raided throughout Eurasia.

Originally posted by Rexec:
Berst answer and culturaly accurate:


Altmer: The Iranian people of the isolated east. The Persians lived in the isolated valleys and deserts of Iran. They were cut off from most cultures and developed their own. They expanded their will on their neighbors, and had a superiority complex as they watched their empire grow.

nope not accurate not even close , the Dev team should confirm this it doesn't matter what people say
Originally posted by Shredder:
Khajits are based on ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ (Elsewyr)
can't read that, even in quote'
I would say they have elements of Shamanism though (not sure from which culture), because in ESO you see them reifying concepts into spiritual beings.
Nords are based on Scandinavian Vikings (Skyrim)
Orcs are based on Mongols (Orsinium and orcish tribes in Skyrim)
Bretons are based on Celtics (High Rock)
They are based on more than one thing, they have other elements woven into them, for example Bretons have Celtic influences crossed with Middle Class Englishmen crossed with the Bretons from France.
Redguards are based on Africans, or Ottomans (Hammerfall)
North Africans and Ottomans
Imperials are based on Roman imperials (Cyrodil)
Altmer (high elves) are based on Dynastic Chinese (Summerset Isles)
And Imperial era British, and before anyone tries claiming racism, I am British and can see those aspects quite clearly in Altmer.
Dunmer (dark elves) are based on Feudal Japan (Morrowind)
Argonians are based on South American tribes (Black Marsh, also sometimes called Argonia)
Not just South America, I would say a lot of elements for Argonians come from D&D with a twist.
And the bosmer (wood elves) are based on Native Americans. (Valenwood)
You need to look for other elements, Native Americans were never cannibalistic, there may have been specific instances of cannibalism
Last edited by alexander_dougherty; Dec 1, 2020 @ 5:38am
Nova Dec 1, 2020 @ 5:44am 
Originally posted by alexander_dougherty:
Originally posted by Shredder:
Khajits are based on ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ (Elsewyr)
can't read that, even in quote'
I would say they have elements of Shamanism though (not sure from which culture), because in ESO you see them reifying concepts into spiritual beings.
Nords are based on Scandinavian Vikings (Skyrim)
Orcs are based on Mongols (Orsinium and orcish tribes in Skyrim)
Bretons are based on Celtics (High Rock)
They are based on more than one thing, they have other elements woven into them, for example Bretons have Celtic influences crossed with Middle Class Englishmen crossed with the Bretons from France.
Redguards are based on Africans, or Ottomans (Hammerfall)
North Africans and Ottomans
Imperials are based on Roman imperials (Cyrodil)
Altmer (high elves) are based on Dynastic Chinese (Summerset Isles)
And Imperial era British, and before anyone tries claiming racism, I am British and can see those aspects quite clearly in Altmer.
Dunmer (dark elves) are based on Feudal Japan (Morrowind)
Argonians are based on South American tribes (Black Marsh, also sometimes called Argonia)
Not just South America, I would say a lot of elements for Argonians come from D&D with a twist.
And the bosmer (wood elves) are based on Native Americans. (Valenwood)
You need to look for other elements, Native Americans were never cannibalistic, there may have been specific instances of cannibalism
I wasn't saying that the bosmer were natives because they were cannibalistic, and I can't recall a civilization other than ones from south and central america that were cannibalistic, and that was only sometimes.

I was more saying it because of their culture surrounding nature.
Originally posted by Shredder:
I wasn't saying that the bosmer were natives because they were cannibalistic, and I can't recall a civilization other than ones from south and central america that were cannibalistic, and that was only sometimes.

I was more saying it because of their culture surrounding nature.
Ok, but you do realise that south american cultures are only said to be based around nature because people have tried to romanticise why the Amazon is so big?
(in reality a couple of Europeans went around in a canoe mapping the area, only to spread European diseases that wiped out the native civilisation, most of what we think of as wild Rainforest was probably cultivated orchards, only they would have called it something else)
MancakeBR Dec 1, 2020 @ 5:51am 
Imagine bringing back a 2 year old thread...yikes...

That being said, from me playing morrowind a long time ago. Depending on the areas you go into for the game, it gives off a bit of Native American vibe with the various tribes.
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