Frost Breath shout: The AA cannon

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As the title states, I've found it good for anti-air, particularly dragons. Dragons have a big hitbox so the crystals all form on the dragons body and deals a ton of damage to him. Brought a dragon (standard) down to half health with it on Adept.

[TSP]

Using hitscan spells will also work very well, such as Lightning Bolt. However, in the vanilla game, there aren't that many hitscan spells out there in the first place.

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Originally posted by Agent Orange:

Using hitscan spells will also work very well, such as Lightning Bolt. However, in the vanilla game, there aren't that many hitscan spells out there in the first place.

Only issue with lightning bolt is its range, and I'm referring to frost breaths raw damage, it has to do it over time but if you get a "meat shot" (where most of the attack hits), it will decimate a dragon, I haven't gotten it to level 3 just yet but I imagine it'd be a pretty nasty dragon killer.

[Mringasa]

Not against a Frost Dragon. They have heavy cold resist, if not immunity. Storm Call is always fun with those flying lizards though. It uh has a tendency to make friendly NPCs pretty pissed though so use caution when shouting it into the clouds.

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Originally posted by Mringasa:

Not against a Frost Dragon. They have heavy cold resist, if not immunity. Storm Call is always fun with those flying lizards though. It uh has a tendency to make friendly NPCs pretty pissed though so use caution when shouting it into the clouds.

I'm going to be honest I thought I didn't NEED to specify that frost dragons had cold resistance, but apparently to some I did.

[DrNewcenstein]

What bothers me is that my Nord is always being slowed down by those freezing whirlwind spells, but Orcs aren't.

However, I don't see Frost Breath being effective against dragons in flight. It's slow and has a limited range. Maybe if you wait for them to dive bomb you.

I did make a staff mod that lets me put learned shouts onto staves, so now I have a magic stick that does Unrelenting Force, and the Stagger effects is set at 100 points, which means you can ragdoll them in flight. Like you're supposed to.

As soon as I figure out how to improve Dragonrend, that's going on a Staff as well.

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Originally posted by DrNewcenstein:

What bothers me is that my Nord is always being slowed down by those freezing whirlwind spells, but Orcs aren't.

However, I don't see Frost Breath being effective against dragons in flight. It's slow and has a limited range. Maybe if you wait for them to dive bomb you.

I did make a staff mod that lets me put learned shouts onto staves, so now I have a magic stick that does Unrelenting Force, and the Stagger effects is set at 100 points, which means you can ragdoll them in flight. Like you're supposed to.

As soon as I figure out how to improve Dragonrend, that's going on a Staff as well.

No I wait for them to hover above me and shoot flames at me without landing like they oh so adore

[TSP]

Originally posted by TheHandsomeArrow:

No I wait for them to hover above me and shoot flames at me without landing like they oh so adore

This was a serious problem to me back when I was a noob to Skyrim back in 2011. Learning where they can land and where they'll hover above the ground and always making sure I have ranged attacks favorited really started helping out once I figured out I'm better off not shooting at them while they're flying, and just wait until they hover or land.

It still takes patience in some areas, especially on higher difficulty/mods. If you're in Winterhold (Not the college), you either have to drag the fight away from there to the south so it starts landing, or deal with it flying around a lot and hover. It takes many minutes to kill them in the early to mid-game, especially since you can't spam spells yet.

Bethesda should really have come up with early game solutions to melee fighting dragons, waiting until you have Dragon Rend can take many days if you stall the main quest.

After all these years it's just something you start "dealing with", knowing it's going to be a drawn out fight.

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Originally posted by Agent Orange:

Originally posted by TheHandsomeArrow:

No I wait for them to hover above me and shoot flames at me without landing like they oh so adore

This was a serious problem to me back when I was a noob to Skyrim back in 2011. Learning where they can land and where they'll hover above the ground and always making sure I have ranged attacks favorited really started helping out once I figured out I'm better off not shooting at them while they're flying, and just wait until they hover or land.

It still takes patience in some areas, especially on higher difficulty/mods. If you're in Winterhold (Not the college), you either have to drag the fight away from there to the south so it starts landing, or deal with it flying around a lot and hover. It takes many minutes to kill them in the early to mid-game, especially since you can't spam spells yet.

Bethesda should really have come up with early game solutions to melee fighting dragons, waiting until you have Dragon Rend can take many days if you stall the main quest.

After all these years it's just something you start "dealing with", knowing it's going to be a drawn out fight.

See I'm keveling up destruction, I've got 82 in two handed and 64 (75 with my squire ring) and high speech/smithing/alchemy/enchanting but only like 36 in destruction. I don't use bows so I'm using limited magicka, and with the"diverse dragons" mod ( dragons with vanilla AI but with things like shock, shouts, etc) So shock dragons and shock breath shout dragons make it even harder

[DrNewcenstein]

The dragons thing kills any hope of not using bows. Adding dragons which have drain magicka shouts like Shock just further reduces the effectiveness of a low-level mage.

You will either need staves that do hideous damage or you will have to break character and at least use a Bound Bow spell.

[Mringasa]

Originally posted by TheHandsomeArrow:

Originally posted by Mringasa:

Not against a Frost Dragon. They have heavy cold resist, if not immunity. Storm Call is always fun with those flying lizards though. It uh has a tendency to make friendly NPCs pretty pissed though so use caution when shouting it into the clouds.

I'm going to be honest I thought I didn't NEED to specify that frost dragons had cold resistance, but apparently to some I did.

You have to remember the intelligence level of people on this Forum ranges from Skeever to Divine. There are some who would stand there blindly shouting Frost Breath at a dragon covered in ice and whine that it didn't work as expected. This is also why I usually have 2 bows rather than 2 melee weapons. 1 for fire, 1 for frost. Every advantage you can grab.

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Originally posted by Mringasa:

Originally posted by TheHandsomeArrow:

I'm going to be honest I thought I didn't NEED to specify that frost dragons had cold resistance, but apparently to some I did.

You have to remember the intelligence level of people on this Forum ranges from Skeever to Divine. There are some who would stand there blindly shouting Frost Breath at a dragon covered in ice and whine that it didn't work as expected. This is also why I usually have 2 bows rather than 2 melee weapons. 1 for fire, 1 for frost. Every advantage you can grab.

Ah. Yeah no you have to use ice breath at a very specific point when it's eithe rlanded or hovering and attacking, it "can" work if he's flying but even if you don't miss you're not going to land as many of the "crystals" that form in the shout's hitbox on the dragon.

[TSP]

Originally posted by TheHandsomeArrow:

See I'm keveling up destruction, I've got 82 in two handed and 64 (75 with my squire ring) and high speech/smithing/alchemy/enchanting but only like 36 in destruction. I don't use bows so I'm using limited magicka, and with the"diverse dragons" mod ( dragons with vanilla AI but with things like shock, shouts, etc) So shock dragons and shock breath shout dragons make it even harder

I'm not sure how much you played Skyrim, so perhaps you knew this for a long time already:

You can gain a shield called Spellbreaker, when you block with that shield, it'll put up a ward that can block magical attacks (Including dragonbreaths). Depending on what difficulty you play and level you are on, it is very resistant to these breaths (Won't break often). You don't need Block for the ward function either, so no need to worry about leveling Block.

So you can use that while training destruction magic. This is the only shield in the game with this special function. Refer to http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Spellbreaker_(Skyrim) on how to obtain it. It's a lengthy quest, more time for you to level destruction, huh? ;)

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Originally posted by Agent Orange:

Originally posted by TheHandsomeArrow:

See I'm keveling up destruction, I've got 82 in two handed and 64 (75 with my squire ring) and high speech/smithing/alchemy/enchanting but only like 36 in destruction. I don't use bows so I'm using limited magicka, and with the"diverse dragons" mod ( dragons with vanilla AI but with things like shock, shouts, etc) So shock dragons and shock breath shout dragons make it even harder

I'm not sure how much you played Skyrim, so perhaps you knew this for a long time already:

You can gain a shield called Spellbreaker, when you block with that shield, it'll put up a ward that can block magical attacks (Including dragonbreaths). Depending on what difficulty you play and level you are on, it is very resistant to these breaths (Won't break often). You don't need Block for the ward function either, so no need to worry about leveling Block.

So you can use that while training destruction magic. This is the only shield in the game with this special function. Refer to http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Spellbreaker_(Skyrim) on how to obtain it. It's a lengthy quest, more time for you to level destruction, huh? ;)

I did get it when I played oldrim on the 360 but it stopped working at all for me, wouldn't even let me pick itmup