Load Order

[PainfulJam924]

Ok, before you all say 'download this software', I am on XBOX. Steam just has the nicest community when it comes to modding help. My game freezes every 2 and a half minutes.
Now all the PC Master Race guys are gone, here is my L.O:

Campfire - Complete Camping System
Beyond Skyrim - Bruma - Assets
Beyond Skyrim - Bruma
Beyond Skyrim - Bruma - DLC Patches
Beyond Skyrim - Bruma - Updates
[X1] Unlimited Shouts
Menus of Skyrim - Alduin's Doom 1080p
Quest Debugger (XB1)
Campfire - Survival mode fix
Amazing Follower Tweaks
Alternate Start - Live Another Life (XB1)
Wet and Cold (XB1)
Save the Salt
Become a Bard
[XB1] Blackreach Railroad
[XB1] Aethernautics - A Space Travel Mod
[XB1] Wheels of Lull
Become High King of Skyrim V2 XBONE
College Visitors Pass
[XB1] Marry Me Serana
A Quality World Map - Classic with all roads
A Quality World Map - Clear Map
Filthy Rich Merchents
LandLord
Renamed Shouts
Renamed Arrows

I also use Creation Club. This is what I have:

Arcane Accessorises
Arcane Archer Pack
Dwarven Armored Mudcrab
Plague of the Dead
Ruin's Edge
Staff of Sheogorath
Survival Mode


I will have a gaming PC in 2019, so don't tell me to get one now.

[Chef]

I am just going to note here for future replies that XB1 load orders are completely different than PC load orders.

That being said, I have no idea how XB1 load orders work, I just know that they have to load a different way than PC.

[Kevin Flemming]

Yeah, no idea. You honestly need to ask on the XB1 forums. Most of us with modding knowledge here only use PCs (although I can't speak for all, but it's a fair assumption).

[smr1957]

Unfortunately, that's the problem with console, the answers we have are all for PC, so unless someone else is really familiar with the way the game works on console, chances are you won't be able to get much help on the forums.

[Phylaris Stoneflask]

Do you have the BB and AS patches? Also, I don't see that you are using USSEP. Is that in your mod list? I use to play on Xbox and it is really weird with load order. I also see that you are using Wet and Cold with Survival Mode. Your patch needs to be under Survival Mode, not above it.

[Phylaris Stoneflask]

Plus, a major thing most console players don't know is that they have to do a hard reset to clear their cache and reset the files. So, first off, hold down the power button on your console for 30 seconds or more. You will see it flash off for a few seconds then come back on. Let go of it. Allow the console to completely shut down. Next, unplug it from the wall.... Completely. Let it sit with no power source for over 5 minutes. You can power it on and run your game after that. Make sure to do this after you finish reordering your mod list. This is very crucial and can cause CTD as we PC players call it.

[PainfulJam924]

Originally posted by Chef:

I am just going to note here for future replies that XB1 load orders are completely different than PC load orders.

That being said, I have no idea how XB1 load orders work, I just know that they have to load a different way than PC.

Originally posted by HΛɌÐCΘɌΞVIBΞƵ™:

Yeah, no idea. You honestly need to ask on the XB1 forums. Most of us with modding knowledge here only use PCs (although I can't speak for all, but it's a fair assumption).

Originally posted by smr1957:

Unfortunately, that's the problem with console, the answers we have are all for PC, so unless someone else is really familiar with the way the game works on console, chances are you won't be able to get much help on the forums.

I have modded Oblivion on PC, I think the only difference is on console it loads bottom to top, and has no script extenders. Unfortunately, I use third party software for my Oblivion L.O, so have 0 load order skills. Thanks for the polite replys though! I was expecting 'Git a gud PC' to be the only response.

[Phylaris Stoneflask]

It loads the exact same way as PC and you are correct about the script extenders.

[Chef]

There was a discussion on the Nexus forums in a thread regarding Vortex there was a bit of a discussion between OldMansBeard and Arthmoor regarding XB1 load orders. Ill see if I can find it and anything relevent.

[PainfulJam924]

Originally posted by Positronic13:

Plus, a major thing most console players don't know is that they have to do a hard reset to clear their cache and reset the files. So, first off, hold down the power button on your console for 30 seconds or more. You will see it flash off for a few seconds then come back on. Let go of it. Allow the console to completely shut down. Next, unplug it from the wall.... Completely. Let it sit with no power source for over 5 minutes. You can power it on and run your game after that. Make sure to do this after you finish reordering your mod list. This is very crucial and can cause CTD as we PC players call it.

Thanks! I thought I only needed to clear the cache after downloading a mod.

Also, and this isn't important, I have a One S, so I can skip the unpluging step! [Roll The More You Know logo]

[Phylaris Stoneflask]

Oh no... lol With a console it is probably the most important step that no one knows about, sadly. Did you download the Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch and the patches for Beyond Burma and Alertnate Start?

[Phylaris Stoneflask]

Do you have a test save? Did you try making a new game and retesting the mods? Having a test save and checking after every few mods you install is needed. That way you can easily find the mod that is causing issues. ALWAYS TEST YOUR MOD LIST!!

[Chef]

Originally posted by Arthmoor:

This idea that the masses are too dumb to grasp the concept of load order, conflict resolution, and how to deal with it is completely bogus. One need only look as far as the console modding community. XB1 users in particular. Since they have only the game UI to rely on, they've come up with a detailed load ordering template that could be considered analogous to LOOT in some way, but it's all organzied by categories based on what the mods do. Large scale overhauls near the top so they don't stomp little stuff later, villages loading later so their navmeshes will work, that sort of thing. What impressed me once I found out they were doing all this is that they figured nearly all of it out without the help of PC modders - because initially they just got looked down on like ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ for being console gamers.

Sorry, thats all I could find. However it does mean that there are template guides out there and the possiblility that there is a place to find help with it.

From this thread: https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/6357846-giving-up-on-vortex-for-now/page-18

[Phylaris Stoneflask]

Originally posted by Chef:

Originally posted by Arthmoor:

This idea that the masses are too dumb to grasp the concept of load order, conflict resolution, and how to deal with it is completely bogus. One need only look as far as the console modding community. XB1 users in particular. Since they have only the game UI to rely on, they've come up with a detailed load ordering template that could be considered analogous to LOOT in some way, but it's all organzied by categories based on what the mods do. Large scale overhauls near the top so they don't stomp little stuff later, villages loading later so their navmeshes will work, that sort of thing. What impressed me once I found out they were doing all this is that they figured nearly all of it out without the help of PC modders - because initially they just got looked down on like ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ for being console gamers.

That's how I learned actually. Nothing but trial and error for months. I luckily had a little knowledge of load order from previous modding attempts on PC.