Does having mods reduce performance a lot on Skyrim SE?

[Nicklaj]

I'm on Oldrim, R5 1600 @3.8GHz and 1050Ti G1 OC, and I use the performance version of RealVision ENB and 200+ mods, mostly vidual enhancer, and I run the game from 40 to 60 fps (But I average on 45 - 50)

Would I get the same performance on Skyrim SE or worse one?

This is my current setup:


Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm
Skyrim Supplemental Patch.esp
RaceCompatibility.esm
ApachiiHair.esm
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm
Campfire.esm
OSA.esm
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
RSkyrimChildren.esm
HighResTexturePack01.esp
HighResTexturePack02.esp
HighResTexturePack03.esp
RaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
SkyUI.esp
SkyrimConfigMenu.esp
iHUD.esp
RealNames.esp
Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp
NARC-SkyTEST.esp
Guards Attack Hostiles.esp
EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
ELFX - Exteriors.esp
Rebirth Monster.esp
DeadlyCombat.esp
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
XPMSE.esp
FNIS_PCEA2.esp
Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp
WICO - Immersive People.esp
WICO - USLEP Compatible Patch.esp
Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin.esp
Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp
RealisticWaterTwo.esp
RealShelter.esp
SoS - The Wilds.esp
LKVM by Nimee - Part I.esp
SoS - Civilization.esp
SLO_StoneWalls.esp
CWIELnFXPatch.esp
Remove Interior Fog V2 - Full Version.esp
SoS - The Dungeons.esp
ELFX - Weathers.esp
Vivid Weathers.esp
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
hearthfireextended.esp
Personalized Music v 6.0.esp
Fantasy Soundtrack Project - Combat.esp
Fantasy Soundtrack Project.esp
rep_ImmersiveCoins.esp
SMIM-Merged-All.esp
Dwarfsphere.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
Cloaks.esp
Run For Your Lives.esp
cliffs.esp
MajesticMountains_Moss.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp
Skysan_ELFX_SMIM_Fix.esp
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
RDO - AFT v1.66 Patch.esp
WetandCold.esp
WetandCold - Ashes.esp
TrueStorms.esp
Natural Lighting Vivid Atmospherics TS.esp
Customizable Camera.esp
No More Ugly Effects.esp
ScopedBows.esp
360WalkandRunPlus-RunBackwardSpeedAdjust.esp
WICO - Immersive Character.esp
WICO - Wild Hunt Gears.esp
Paper World Map - Lighting Edit.esp
WondersofWeather.esp
Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
TrissArmorRetextured.esp
Skyrim Particle Patch for ENB - Flame Atronach Fix.esp
Real Roads.esp
PumpingIron.esp
MainMenu.esp
Immersive detection of NPC.esp
Footprints.esp
CustomizableLights.esp
PlayRandomIdle.esp
CustomizableLightsWLPatch.esp
Natural Lighting and Atmospherics.esp
GrassOnSteroids_Short.esp
WICO - Immersive Dawnguard.esp
Beards.esp
DreamBurrowsRegalHuntsmanArmor.esp
ResplendentArmor.esp
Watercolor_for_ENB_RWT.esp
Silent Skill Increase and Level Up.esp
RDO - USLEEP Patch.esp
Better Embers.esp
FNIS.esp
TakeNotes.esp
SkySight-Simply-Bigger-Trees-Slower-Branches.esp
Rank and File.esp
RideSharing.esp
UltimateDragons.esp
Celtic_Music_In_Skyrim_v2.1.esp
WWW.esp
ScarletDawnArmor.esp
Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp
AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp
Differently Ebony.esp
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp
VioLens.esp
MajesticMountains.esp
Skyrim 2017 TPTC - Parallax Maps.esp
CrimsonTwilightArmor.esp
ScopedBows_ArrowTweaks.esp
ScopedBows_EagleEyeTweak.esp
PC Head Tracking - MCM.esp
PC Head Tracking - Patch.esp
DSerArcheryGameplayOverhaul.esp
hmkLockOn.esp
LeftHandRings - Dawnguard.esp
LeftHandRings.esp
DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp
Mortal Enemies.esp
RevampedExteriorFog.esp
Civil War Cleanup.esp
Character Behaviors Enhanced.esp
Vivid Weathers - AOS patch.esp
SoS - Civilization-PatchCoT.esp
SoS - The Wilds-PatchCoT.esp
BecomeKingofSkyrim.esp
Immersive Patrols II.esp
Frostfall.esp
Paper World Map - Solstheim.esp
ThaneWeaponsReborn.esp
Chaconne.esp
SofiaFollower.esp
TimingIsEverything.esp
isilNarsil.esp
FSP - Unique Towns & Locations.esp
The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.esp
vMYC_MeetYourCharacters.esp
mnDragonThroneWall.esp
Dead Body Collision.esp
Vivid Weathers - Extended Rain.esp
TrueStorms-NLA.esp
Breezehome_Fully_Upgradable.esp
ELFX_2_0_BFU_Patch.esp
Skylight-Torches.esp
Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp
TKDodge.esp
TrueStorms-SupremeStorms-Vanilla.esp
Critical Hit.esp
GirlHeavyArmor.esp
Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
PrinceandPauper.esp
RSChildren.esp
RSChildren Patch - USLEEP.esp
Bijin Warmaidens.esp
LessIntrusiveHUD.esp
Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
LostGrimoire.esp
Vivid Weathers - Bruma.esp
Dual Sheath Redux.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp
Warburg's 3D Paper World Map - Texture 2.esp
ELE_Legendary_Lite.esp
warburg's 3d paper world map - dawnguard.esp
Warburg's 3D Paper World Map - Dragonborn.esp
RSPatch.esp
Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

[SpeedFreak1972]

In general it all depends on the mods really and also if you're running an enb for instance however not sure everything is ported yet

[Futa Fanatic]

stuff like enb's and weather mods can effect performance

[Mringasa]

ENBs, ReShade, and weather/lighting mods will be the big killers. I use NAT because it's lightweight and does both weather and lighting. That + my ENB dropped me from a stable 50 to 38-42. It's still smooth, but you can see the hit. Also things like Verdant in the heavily foliaged areas and better textures will hit your frames, but those are the largest ones.

[SpeedFreak1972]

however also certain other mods can have a hit for instance JK's skyrim for instance

[Mringasa]

Ahhh, to answer your question though, if you meet the Recommended Requirements, not the Minimum, you should be just fine. My own experience is that SSE runs about the same, or better, on my system than Oldrim did. It is also much more stable to mod with as I have had 0 issues setting up a stable build. The memory increase was a godsend.

[Nicklaj]

I have a 1050Ti so I reach the recommended... Plus I won't probably be using ENBs but reshades this time, which I've read is similar and has less fps loss so fps+ and no, the only weather mods I'm using are CoT and Vivid weathers...

But on your experience did passing from oldrim to special edition cut your framerate?

Edit: Looks like 780 is like 50% more powerful than 1050Ti but... IDK

[Sinsling]

Unless you are down by the minimum range you shouldn't suffer a huge performance hit. What matters most past a certain threshold (in my experience) is available vram and ram. If you are already stable with texture/visual enhancements in sle, then you are probably going to have the same frame rate if not higher due to the 64bit memory.

The only possible thing that could worsen your framerate is the god rays, and those can be disabled. (they won't, you already have a system that can handle them)

[Mringasa]

No. I'm actually running a "heavier" build with SE at the same frames. I have a lot of animation mods, and a pretty solid amount of texture replacers. Scripting is a bit harder as well with my last 2 builds. The only place I might have made some gains is going with NAT instead of Vivid or CoT or whatever. Even that though isn't much difference.

The worst area is Falkreath with Verdant, SFO and max grass distance. I remember in Oldrim I would cut it to half to maintain a decent smoothness. Not having that issue with SE.

I'd suggest trying ReShade, an ENB, and then a combination to see how heavy it's going to hit your frames. You might find one or the other to be better, or even the combination of both to be just fine to play.

[Nicklaj]

Originally posted by Mringasa:

No. I'm actually running a "heavier" build with SE at the same frames. I have a lot of animation mods, and a pretty solid amount of texture replacers. Scripting is a bit harder as well with my last 2 builds. The only place I might have made some gains is going with NAT instead of Vivid or CoT or whatever. Even that though isn't much difference.

The worst area is Falkreath with Verdant, SFO and max grass distance. I remember in Oldrim I would cut it to half to maintain a decent smoothness. Not having that issue with SE.

I'd suggest trying ReShade, an ENB, and then a combination to see how heavy it's going to hit your frames. You might find one or the other to be better, or even the combination of both to be just fine to play.

I was thinking of using ClearView ReShade, would you recommend it?

[MysticMalevolence]

There is the bug that SSE Fixes/SSE Engine Fixes handles.

[Nicklaj]

Originally posted by sueauth:

I have the 1050ti card and my game runs great. I don't have any enb's installed and I believe it looks real good as is . I do have weathers and landscaping mods installed . I have so many trees in riverwood I cant even se the road on mainstreet and don't notice any big performance hits. I use project hippie, paradise cities, LH forests of dibella and all the other LH landscape/foliage mods avail for sse. I also run it all on ultra settings and my mods are in 2-4k with 4k chose when avail. I had old rim yrs ago and remember I had to have tons of mods to get it to look this way where sse does it almost out of the box with some 3d trees and landscaping added after. I also have loaded up many mods that add in new lands with quests , not sure if that's supposed to be a drag on performance or not. hope that helps.

What's your avg framerate?

[sueauth]

I have the same 1050 ti card as you. It runs se great for me. I don't have any enb's or reshaders because so far I have not felt it needed it. I run everything on ultra settings and the landscape mods I download I try to get all HD 2-4k mods. I use SMIM texture mod and project hippie, paradise cities, LH forests of dibella and loaded all the other LH landscape/foliage mods for se ($ I think), realwater2, dolomite weathers and Skyland landscape texture, also got a sun mod today . I have so many trees and plants that riverwood can barely be seen when standing on main street and have very little if any performance loss. Same with whiterun and riften , both used to give me trouble on my old computer. You should be fine getting se. Only negative thing i have noticed is that there are not the endless mods avail like there are for oldrim. That said there are way more now than last yr and more get ported everyday. Its like a porting frenzy. Here is a screenshot i took today that shows how it looks out of the box with only weather, skyland and some tree mods.

/steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1391552066

[sueauth]

Originally posted by Nicklaj:

Originally posted by sueauth:

I have the 1050ti card and my game runs great. I don't have any enb's installed and I believe it looks real good as is . I do have weathers and landscaping mods installed . I have so many trees in riverwood I cant even se the road on mainstreet and don't notice any big performance hits. I use project hippie, paradise cities, LH forests of dibella and all the other LH landscape/foliage mods avail for sse. I also run it all on ultra settings and my mods are in 2-4k with 4k chose when avail. I had old rim yrs ago and remember I had to have tons of mods to get it to look this way where sse does it almost out of the box with some 3d trees and landscaping added after. I also have loaded up many mods that add in new lands with quests , not sure if that's supposed to be a drag on performance or not. hope that helps.

What's your avg framerate?

Hold on , I will go turn on fps counter and run around riverwood, whiterun and riften then report it back. brb

[Nicklaj]

Originally posted by sueauth:

Originally posted by Nicklaj:

What's your avg framerate?

Hold on , I will go turn on fps counter and run around riverwood, whiterun and riften then report it back. brb

Thank you a lot for this...
I've seen videos where 1050ti gets only around 50 fps on ultra so with mods I think you will average around 30 and 40s?

Because I was thinking to set the graphics to medium high and then mod

[sueauth]

Originally posted by Nicklaj:

Originally posted by sueauth:

Hold on , I will go turn on fps counter and run around riverwood, whiterun and riften then report it back. brb

Thank you a lot for this...
I've seen videos where 1050ti gets only around 50 fps on ultra so with mods I think you will average around 30 and 40s?

Because I was thinking to set the graphics to medium high and then mod

No problem. Its actually way better than that. I averaged 55-60 everywhere and the one or two small spots where i noticed it dropped into the mid 40's was small and if i had not been looking at the fps counter i would not have known. I averaged 55 fps in whiterun and same in both riverwood and riften, solitude i got 58-60 the whole time. I will include some screenshots of those towns so you can see i have trees galore, and i had actually ran whiterun near the water in heavy trees to check that cause i noticed running water would give me problems on another computer i had.

I can give you my list of landscape, weather and texture packs i use if you want them to use as a guide to make something similar for yourself. I would give you it as a mod order list but i just built it and not sure if it will get problems in future as i play it. It sure looks nice now though

/steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1390738571