Infinite save game loading

[Smackerz]

Game runs fine when i start a new game. When i load to a save game i make after, it keeps loading infinitely... Tried to log it but that doesn't work since the game freezes up as soon as i try to exit it. Making me log out of my user.

It's strange since the game starts and runs a new game yet doesn't want to load one..
I'm running about 60+ mods and I've tried different loading orders but it doesn't fix the issue.
My load order starts with heavy environment mods and continues to NPC and weapon mods.

Hopefully someone has a fix...


My current loading order is = (top is #1)

Skyrim.esm=1
Update.esm=1
Dawnguard.esm=1
HearthFires.esm=1
Dragonborn.esm=1
Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp=1
BSAssets.esm=1
BSHeartland.esm=1
BS_DLC_patch.esp=1
Sneak Tools.esp=1
OwnCivilWar.esp=1
Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp=1
DBRewards.esp=1
Marriage_All.esp=1
Ravengate.esp=1
RealisticWaterTwo.esp=1
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp=1
WICO - Immersive Character.esp=1
WICO - Immersive People.esp=1
WICO - Immersive Dawnguard.esp=1
WICO - Wild Hunt Gears.esp=1
SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp=1
S3DTrees NextGenerationForests.esp=1
EnhancedLightsandFX.esp=1
ELFXEnhancer.esp=1
ELFX - Exteriors.esp=1
ELFX - Weathers.esp=1
Footprints.esp=1
SimplyBiggerTreesSE.esp=1
Vivid WeathersSE.esp=1
Vivid Weathers SE - Bruma Patch.esp=1
Vivid Weathers SE - LightingDuringStorm Patch.esp=1
Vivid Weathers SE - Extended Snow.esp=1
Vivid Weathers - Extended Rain.esp=1
Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin SSE Version.esp=1
WetandCold.esp=1
Blowing in the Wind SSE.esp=1
Blowing in the Wind - SMIM Merged All Patch SSE.esp=1
Blowing in the Wind - ELFX Exteriors Patch SSE.esp=1
DIVERSE SKYRIM.esp=1
Ench-Alch FIX.esp=1
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1
EconomyOverhaulandSpeechcraftImprovements.esp=1
Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp=1
RUSTIC SOULGEMS - Unsorted.esp=1
Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp=1
Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp=1
Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp=1
Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp=1
DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp=1
Immersive Followers.esp=1
Dog Followers are Huskies.esp=1
Realistic-Voice.esp=1
Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1
BirdsOfSkyrim_SSE.esp=1
Immersive Patrols II.esp=1
Killable Children.esp=1
TES5SE NPCs Travel.esp=1
CFTO.esp=1
Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp=1
Book Covers Skyrim.esp=1
Beards.esp=1
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp=1
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1
Cloaks&Capes.esp=1
Ark_Battlemage.esp=1
NetherMage.esp=1
imp_helm_legend.esp=1
Black Mage Armor SE.esp=1
Daedric Stealth Suit.esp=1
KatanaCrafting.esp=1
WeaponsOf3E_SSE.esp=1
PrvtIRoyalArmory.esp=1
Faction Crossbows.esp=1
InstantMining.esp=1
Axes Chop Wood.esp=1

[Sinsling]

Verdant from what I have seen elsewhere is a fairly intensive mod. What specs are you using with this load, and have you tried using loot?

Also, iirc, you will need to manually place the hothtrooper in the correct order in relation to each other.

[Smackerz]

Originally posted by Sinsling:

Verdant from what I have seen elsewhere is a fairly intensive mod. What specs are you using with this load, and have you tried using loot?

Also, iirc, you will need to manually place the hothtrooper in the correct order in relation to each other.

I run a GTX1060 6gb, i7-7700HQ and 16gb ddr4 2400mhz..
However, game and mods are installed on usb 3.0 disc and saves are located inside document folder. i do this because of lack on the main m.2 ssd.. Could this cause it?

What do you mean with the hothtrooper? I can change verdant for another one or remove it if that would be the fix to my loading issue...

[smr1957]

You already have them in the correct order:
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp should load before Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
See: Proper Placement Of Immersive Armors .esps (LOOT does not get this right.)
http://steamcommunity.com/app/72850/discussions/0/1290691937715809215/
(Also includes instructions on how to change mod Metadata in LOOT - applicable to other mods, as well.)

[Sinsling]

Sorry, I should of specified when using loot to sort the order.

Wether or not the 3.0 is impacting anything would depend on what speed the drive/port can handle. First would be checking you are actually using a 3+ port(usually marked by being blue).

Try disabling verdant and see if you do not get infinite loads?

Also, can you link me to owncivilwar? I can find open civil war but I'm not sure if that is the one you are using.

[Smackerz]

Originally posted by smr1957:

You already have them in the correct order:
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp should load before Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
See: Proper Placement Of Immersive Armors .esps (LOOT does not get this right.)
http://steamcommunity.com/app/72850/discussions/0/1290691937715809215/
(Also includes instructions on how to change mod Metadata in LOOT - applicable to other mods, as well.)

Also, i'm guessing that moving Skyrim with mods to my m.2ssd will run the game a lot faster then my usb 3.0 1tb drive? Or will this not change much?
If so, whats a good way to move NexusMM +mods and Skyrim to my main m.2?

Followed the LOOT instructions and now my load order is as following:

Skyrim.esm=1
Update.esm=1
Dawnguard.esm=1
HearthFires.esm=1
Dragonborn.esm=1
Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp=1
BSAssets.esm=1
BSHeartland.esm=1
BS_DLC_patch.esp=1
Sneak Tools.esp=1
SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp=1
WICO - Immersive People.esp=1
EnhancedLightsandFX.esp=1
ELFX - Exteriors.esp=1
S3DTrees NextGenerationForests.esp=1
Book Covers Skyrim.esp=1
ELFXEnhancer.esp=1
EconomyOverhaulandSpeechcraftImprovements.esp=1
BirdsOfSkyrim_SSE.esp=1
Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp=1
Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp=1
Marriage_All.esp=1
Blowing in the Wind SSE.esp=1
Blowing in the Wind - ELFX Exteriors Patch SSE.esp=1
ELFX - Weathers.esp=1
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp=1
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1
OwnCivilWar.esp=1
SimplyBiggerTreesSE.esp=1
CFTO.esp=1
Immersive Patrols II.esp=1
Immersive Followers.esp=1
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp=1
Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin SSE Version.esp=1
PrvtIRoyalArmory.esp=1
Ravengate.esp=1
Blowing in the Wind - SMIM Merged All Patch SSE.esp=1
Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp=1
DBRewards.esp=1
WICO - Immersive Character.esp=1
WICO - Wild Hunt Gears.esp=1
Footprints.esp=1
Vivid WeathersSE.esp=1
Vivid Weathers SE - Bruma Patch.esp=1
Vivid Weathers SE - LightingDuringStorm Patch.esp=0
Vivid Weathers SE - Extended Snow.esp=1
Vivid Weathers - Extended Rain.esp=1
DIVERSE SKYRIM.esp=1
Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp=1
Ench-Alch FIX.esp=1
RUSTIC SOULGEMS - Unsorted.esp=1
DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp=1
Dog Followers are Huskies.esp=1
Realistic-Voice.esp=1
Killable Children.esp=1
TES5SE NPCs Travel.esp=1
Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp=1
Beards.esp=1
Cloaks&Capes.esp=1
WetandCold.esp=1
Ark_Battlemage.esp=1
NetherMage.esp=1
imp_helm_legend.esp=1
Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp=1
Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp=1
Black Mage Armor SE.esp=1
Daedric Stealth Suit.esp=1
KatanaCrafting.esp=1
WeaponsOf3E_SSE.esp=1
Faction Crossbows.esp=1
WICO - Immersive Dawnguard.esp=1
InstantMining.esp=1
Axes Chop Wood.esp=1
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1
Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1
RealisticWaterTwo.esp=1

[Smackerz]

Originally posted by Sinsling:

Sorry, I should of specified when using loot to sort the order.

Wether or not the 3.0 is impacting anything would depend on what speed the drive/port can handle. First would be checking you are actually using a 3+ port(usually marked by being blue).

Try disabling verdant and see if you do not get infinite loads?

Also, can you link me to owncivilwar? I can find open civil war but I'm not sure if that is the one you are using.

I've got the newest Razer Blade 2017 laptop so there's nothing else besides USB 3.0 hahaha!
This is the civil war i'm using:

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/11076

I'm gonna try out without disabling the Verdant, if nothing is changed i'll try with disabling it.

[Smackerz]

Played with and without verdant but still the infinite loading appears..

[Sinsling]

Still not sure what is causing your load issue, but I did just notice you are missing a patch for apocalypse and ordinator perks.

[Smackerz]

Originally posted by Sinsling:

Still not sure what is causing your load issue, but I did just notice you are missing a patch for apocalypse and ordinator perks.

How could i acquire these patches?

[smr1957]

Alternate Start should come last - before a Bashed Patch - which you should have, as Skyrim does not manage Leveled Lists.

Wrye Bash by Wrye Bash Team
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/1840/?

Re: Wrye Bash (from Player Spreadsheet http://steamcommunity.com/app/72850/discussions/0/594821545176386165/ )

"5.3. Wrye Bash
Wrye Bash (WB) is a mod managing tool, but it is most often used to create a Bashed Patch for Skyrim. Patch is important, because Skyrim does not merge levelled lists from mods on it's own. This means that mod content in your game is missing or poorly managed, if you did not create a Bashed Patch for your game.

Wrye Bash comes with an installer. This executable should find your Skyrim folder automatically, when ran. If this does not happen, then use it's own browser to locate your ...SteamApps/common/Skyrim folder and run the installer.

• Wrye Bash download link:
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/1840/?

Creating the patch:
1. Sort your load order with LOOT.

2. Open Wrye Bash.

3. WB has created a file Bashed Patch, 0.esp to end of your load order. This load order is visible in your left hand panel of Wrye Bash.

4. Right click Bashed Patch, 0.esp with your mouse. Select Rebuild Patch...

5. You may have files that are marked not to be merged. The prompt will warn about these files. Disable them in prompt view and you are good to go. You do not need to take another step with them, because Wrye Bash does not disable such files from load order. It only leaves them unmerged, as intended.

6. If Wrye Bash asks about disabling merged files, then say Yes. The content of those files will be added to Wrye Bash.

7. Let patcher to run. NMM: You are now finished. MO: Consult Load order and resource priority basics (5.2 in this post) for further instructions."

As to Infinite Load Screen problem, that can be caused by the game trying to load too much data, which can be attributed to too many script heavy mods, game settings, or, more often the case, graphics mods that are very hi-res (such as 4K graphics). This is often a problem on laptops.

The game should definitely run faster with minimal load screen times if it is installed on an SSD drive. If you have your mod manager installed on a different drive, make sure that you are running as administrator and that the pathing is correct .

Am just popping in and out of the forums, so may not get back to this (as I am currently setting up my new mod load), but Sinsling should be able to guide you through and help with your problems. Good luck!

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[Sinsling]

Most mods have patches in their files page. You should find the Apocalypse - ordinator patch on the Apocalypse mod page.

[Sinsling]

@smr I'm just a novice. All I really bring to the table is my reading skills. XD

[Sinsling]

Check this mods compatibility section: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/7707/

[smr1957]

Originally posted by Sinsling:

@smr I'm just a novice. All I really bring to the table is my reading skills. XD

Well, that's bringing more than most! And you may just be a novice, but you do pretty well -
probably because you have a brain and know how to use it! (A rare commodity, that!) LOL!

[TehSpoopyKitteh]

The only time I have seen this is when I tried moving a Skyrim Legendary Edition bsa file into the Skyrim Special Edition folder. One of your mods, outside of load order issues, was either mistakenly downloaded from Skyrim Nexus as opposed to Skyrim Special Edition Nexus, or somebody uploaded it to the wrong Nexus.