Ordinator light armor perk, cant unlock.

[White]

Custom Fit, requirement is 30 in light armor I got 40 and still cant unlock it. Any suggestions? I have no other mod that does anything with perks.

[Sinsling]

You have the prerequisite perks correct? And a free perk point?

[White]

Originally posted by Sinsling:

You have the prerequisite perks correct? And a free perk point?

I had issues with that perk for a while now, I have 5 perk points, and have unlocked 2/2 of the previous perks. It is "locked". The problem is that I can't even select it as a unlock candidate (although I meet the requirements) but the other perk trees work fine.

[Sinsling]

Ah, I've used this perk before. Do you have any mods that change armor or armor calculation at all?

A sorted list provided by LOOT would help.

[White]

Originally posted by Sinsling:

Ah, I've used this perk before. Do you have any mods that change armor or armor calculation at all?

A sorted list provided by LOOT would help.

I probably have some that change armor.
Here I downloaded loot to get a list for you: (Note, not all of these are active, i sorted this in LOOT so the order in game might be different)

0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
254 FE 0 ccbgssse002-exoticarrows.esl
254 FE 1 ccbgssse010-petdwarvenarmoredmudcrab.esl
254 FE 2 ccbgssse014-spellpack01.esl
254 FE 3 ccqdrsse001-survivalmode.esl
5 5 campfire.esm
6 6 falskaar.esm
7 7 static mesh improvement mod se.esp
8 8 icepenguinworldmap.esp
9 9 magicalcollegeofwinterhold.esp
10 a whiterungardensmod.esp
11 b hidden hunters cabin.esp
12 c ordinator - perks of skyrim.esp
easylockpicking.esp
13 d traininglimit.esp
14 e rich merchants of skyrim.esp
royaldaedric.esp
15 f fpsboost.esp
16 10 lefthandrings.esp
17 11 weightless dragon bones and scales.esp
18 12 awesome artifacts.esp
19 13 imperialrewards.esp
20 14 better creature loot.esp
21 15 young female faces.esp
22 16 warrior priest of stendarr.esp
armor of sauron.esp
bhtnf.esp
23 17 practice dummies.esp
24 18 sjel blad castle_v2_0.esp
amazingfollowertweaks.esp
25 19 get_no_dead_merchants_sepc_sp0ckrates.esp
26 1a sacrosanct - vampires of skyrim.esp
27 1b inigo.esp
28 1c immersive patrols ii.esp
volkihar knight.esp
29 1d thehideaway.esp
30 1e sofiafollower.esp
31 1f get_no_dead_followers_sepc_sp0ckrates.esp
32 20 big_ultimate_kills_sepc_sp0ckrates.esp
33 21 patrongodsofskyrim.esp
34 22 boss encounters.esp
35 23 s'rendarrs arsenal.esp
36 24 skyrimtrashcans.esp
merchantsinnpc.esp
37 25 underhearth.esp
38 26 nwsmirabellefollower.esp
39 27 equippable tomes.esp
40 28 icebladeofthemonarch.esp
41 29 timeandspace.esp
42 2a mbw dragon souls to perk points.esp
43 2b apocalypse - magic of skyrim.esp
44 2c amber.esp
45 2d better loot.esp
46 2e unleveled_items.esp
dcr_kingcrusadermegapack_sse.esp
47 2f chesko_lorebasedloadingscreens.esp
dragoncarvedarmorset.esp
48 30 sptdiverseguardsskyrimse.esp
seraphim - demon hunter armor.esp
49 31 seraphim - female body replacer.esp
50 32 seraphim - female body replacer extras.esp
51 33 seraphim - vanilla armor and clothing replacer.esp
52 34 ks_hairdo's_lite.esp
lydiaspeed.esp
lydiaessentialsse.esp
53 35 diversedragonscollectionse.esp
54 36 hearthfire shrines expanded.esp
55 37 renamed arrows.esp
56 38 shiira a female khajiit follower.esp
57 39 armes d'auriel.esp
58 3a maras gift.esp
59 3b bettersunspells.esp
60 3c heliomancy.esp
61 3d ars metallica.esp
62 3e bounty perks.esp
63 3f perk points at skill levels 50-75-100.esp
64 40 50 more perk points.esp
65 41 mace_better_potion_recipes_sepc_sp0ckrates.esp
66 42 cloaks&capes.esp
67 43 dr_bandolier.esp
68 44 crimson ranger armor.esp
69 45 sl99changeoutfit.esp
70 46 nightingale prime remaster.esp
71 47 perfectnightingaleblade.esp
72 48 noldorarmor.esp
73 49 skysan_glassaw.esp
74 4a mortal enemies.esp
75 4b immersive citizens - ai overhaul.esp
76 4c alternate start - live another life.esp
77 4d relationship dialogue overhaul.esp

[SpeedFreak1972]

I had the same several time weird ... I added the perk with console ... yes cheating I know.

[Sinsling]

Aaaah, not having a loot sorted order could be the problem. LOOT helps make sure -most- mods load in the correct order to prevent conflicts such as the one you may be experiencing.

I'll look through your list to see if I catch anything unusual.

[SpeedFreak1972]

well I have always a loot sort however it's probably something in the load order ... however can't be bothered atm playing with another perk mod.

[Sinsling]

You seem to be missing a compatibility patch for apocalypse to work with ordinator perks. Don't think that would hlock the light armor perk though.

Are you looking for a fix without starting a new save though?

[Sinsling]

Originally posted by SpeedFreak1972:

well I have always a loot sort however it's probably something in the load order ... however can't be bothered atm playing with another perk mod.

Playing without a sorted list can still cause problems. Since his wasn't sorted, there is no way to know if that was the problem or not.

[Debugger]

I had the same problem, and it was caused by a conflicting mod called "Helmet Perk Remover". This mod also modifies the light armor perk tree. After removing it, the Ordinator perk tree worked fine.

As I do not see this mod in your list, I guess you need to find the conflicting mod and then check if there is a patch for it.

[White]

Originally posted by Sinsling:

Aaaah, not having a loot sorted order could be the problem. LOOT helps make sure -most- mods load in the correct order to prevent conflicts such as the one you may be experiencing.

I'll look through your list to see if I catch anything unusual.

So if I pressed the sorting in LOOT, applied it, it should be "sorted" by your standard? I never used it, I used to rely on Mod Organizer to fix stuff in oldrim and now on the built in tools.
I did as I said and it has not resolved the issue.

[Sinsling]

Originally posted by David:

Originally posted by Sinsling:

Aaaah, not having a loot sorted order could be the problem. LOOT helps make sure -most- mods load in the correct order to prevent conflicts such as the one you may be experiencing.

I'll look through your list to see if I catch anything unusual.

So if I pressed the sorting in LOOT, applied it, it should be "sorted" by your standard? I never used it, I used to rely on Mod Organizer to fix stuff in oldrim and now on the built in tools.
I did as I said and it has not resolved the issue.

To my understanding, sorting effects the load order, which is only applied upon starting a new game. From there, the save file loads stuff in it's own order.

As mentioned earlier, you are missing atlease one compatibility patch. You may need to take the time to look for compatibility patches and read your mods' descriptions for possible conflicts with other mods.

The patches may require new games though. You could resort to console commands if you do not want to start a new game.