Arcane assassin

[Abyssian]

Is this build worth of try? Main skill trees are Sneak, Conjuration, Archery, One handed, Light Armor. Second and supportive trees(the ones i didn't invest points in yet) are Enchanting, Lockpicking and Speech. The problem in this game is that one must control what to lvl up, too many leveling skills makes your game unplayable. As perfect assassin i considering to lvl up Illusion school to the point of Quiet casting perk, but... is it not too much skill trees to lvl?

What would you guys choose to lvl as arcane assassin?

[jreese46]

Sneak, at least to the 3x archery damage perk. Alchemy and enchanting. (Use Alchemy to make enchanters potions, to better enchant your weapons, and also to make poisons to apply to your weapons.) Smithing, to better improve your weapons. Light armor at least to the 5/5 point, maybe the all-light-armor bonus, but not much beyond that.

Find a pair of muffled boots, disenchant and apply to your own light boots. (Petty gem is sufficient, unless using a dual enchantment.)

Stay hidden, strike very hard from far away. Improved, enchanted, poisoned bow, with 3x damage from sneak. Boom.

[Abyssian]

Originally posted by jreese46:

Sneak, at least to the 3x archery damage perk. Alchemy and enchanting. (Use Alchemy to make enchanters potions, to better enchant your weapons, and also to make poisons to apply to your weapons.) Smithing, to better improve your weapons. Light armor at least to the 5/5 point, maybe the all-light-armor bonus, but not much beyond that.

Find a pair of muffled boots, disenchant and apply to your own light boots. (Petty gem is sufficient, unless using a dual enchantment.)

Stay hidden, strike very hard from far away. Improved, enchanted, poisoned bow, with 3x damage from sneak. Boom.

That may work. Till i meet Ebony warrior. :D

[FauxFurry]

You could forgo armor altogether and just use a good set of enchanted clothing. Illusion is a more important skill for an arcane assassin type character than armor.
If you need to use armor at all, you messed up somewhere. Don't get spotted, don't get hit.

[Drukaris]

enchanting is an "all or nothing" kinda deal

if you use it, you should invest points heavily
because its the most powerful skill tree in the game

if you dont wanna invest points, dont lvl it up at all and leave it at base lvl
or else you just buff the enemies without having any benefit

other than that your build seems fine

just dont waste points on lockpicking :>

[NecroMaster]

I had a similar build called the true listener.

Main skills were archery, illusion, sneak, light armor and enchanting,
He’s a pick for top 5 most broken builds I’ve made.

Yeah weird how not a lot of my top 5 are sane or unselfish.

[Abyssian]

Originally posted by FauxFurry:

You could forgo armor altogether and just use a good set of enchanted clothing. Illusion is a more important skill for an arcane assassin type character than armor.
If you need to use armor at all, you messed up somewhere. Don't get spotted, don't get hit.

It's not possible to not be seen all the time. In open plain, when you have to travel on foot, you can run into animals which are hard to cover before, or situation where assassins and thieves just find you whenever you are. Vampires/dawnguards... many situations where melee fight is inevitable. Without armor... even stupid crab poses a threat to you. So NO. I use only mage without armor(but with alteration).

[Abyssian]

Originally posted by Drukaris:

enchanting is an "all or nothing" kinda deal

if you use it, you should invest points heavily
because its the most powerful skill tree in the game

if you dont wanna invest points, dont lvl it up at all and leave it at base lvl
or else you just buff the enemies without having any benefit

other than that your build seems fine

just dont waste points on lockpicking :>

I see what you want to tell me. I WILL invest to it, use it, but... only after i make some skill tree legendary and use it's points to enchanting. Otherwise... no. And if you want to have good enchanting, you have to search for every enchant possible and disassemble it, which is not easy deal.

[Abyssian]

Originally posted by Wilson the Gentleman Scientist.:

I had a similar build called the true listener.

Main skills were archery, illusion, sneak, light armor and enchanting,
He’s a pick for top 5 most broken builds I’ve made.

Yeah weird how not a lot of my top 5 are sane or unselfish.

Lol i'm master of broken builds. I making same mistakes all the time. :D Just out of reflex... like disassembling enchanted items with all chars... and so.

[SpeedFreak1972]

In case you didn't know a handy mod for sneak attacks: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/19297

[Abyssian]

Originally posted by SpeedFreak1972:

In case you didn't know a handy mod for sneak attacks: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/19297

Thanks, but i don't use mods. For now.

[jreese46]

Originally posted by Gylaran:

Originally posted by Drukaris:

enchanting is an "all or nothing" kinda deal

if you use it, you should invest points heavily
because its the most powerful skill tree in the game

if you dont wanna invest points, dont lvl it up at all and leave it at base lvl
or else you just buff the enemies without having any benefit

other than that your build seems fine

just dont waste points on lockpicking :>

I see what you want to tell me. I WILL invest to it, use it, but... only after i make some skill tree legendary and use it's points to enchanting. Otherwise... no. And if you want to have good enchanting, you have to search for every enchant possible and disassemble it, which is not easy deal.

Easier to hoard/buy up petty soul gems, until you hit lvl 23. Then make a shopping circuit, until you find the blacksmith selling a weapon "of expelling," the famous banish enchantment. Disenchant that and use petty soul gems to enchant cheap looted weapons, which you can sell for nearly 2k ea, and your skill climbs much more quickly. Also, don't forget you'll do even better if you select the appropriate standing stone and are well-rested, before beginning.

[Abyssian]

Originally posted by jreese46:

Originally posted by Gylaran:

I see what you want to tell me. I WILL invest to it, use it, but... only after i make some skill tree legendary and use it's points to enchanting. Otherwise... no. And if you want to have good enchanting, you have to search for every enchant possible and disassemble it, which is not easy deal.

Easier to hoard/buy up petty soul gems, until you hit lvl 23. Then make a shopping circuit, until you find the blacksmith selling a weapon "of expelling," the famous banish enchantment. Disenchant that and use petty soul gems to enchant cheap looted weapons, which you can sell for nearly 2k ea, and your skill climbs much more quickly. Also, don't forget you'll do even better if you select the appropriate standing stone and are well-rested, before beginning.

Lol i will ruin every trader in Skyrim with that. XD

[jreese46]

Amen to that. That's about the same time I'm reaching 50 speech, so I take the merchant perk and go to the college. Buy whatever spells, weapons, soul gems I need, and then take all their money with banish weapons, move on to the next, repeat.

[alexander_dougherty]

Originally posted by Drukaris:

enchanting is an "all or nothing" kinda deal

if you use it, you should invest points heavily
because its the most powerful skill tree in the game

if you dont wanna invest points, dont lvl it up at all and leave it at base lvl
or else you just buff the enemies without having any benefit

I have to disagree, while I do invest heavily in that tree, I have also had characters were I have just levelled it up.

Just being able to enchant a weapon with a fire enchant is useful, and as you level up, you get more charges/strength for the enchantment. You can get a decent amount of use without spending perk points.

That said, for an Arcane Assassin it's a good skill to invest perk points in.

[alexander_dougherty]

Originally posted by Gylaran:

Is this build worth of try? Main skill trees are Sneak, Conjuration, Archery, One handed, Light Armor. Second and supportive trees(the ones i didn't invest points in yet) are Enchanting, Lockpicking and Speech. The problem in this game is that one must control what to lvl up, too many leveling skills makes your game unplayable. As perfect assassin i considering to lvl up Illusion school to the point of Quiet casting perk, but... is it not too much skill trees to lvl?

What would you guys choose to lvl as arcane assassin?

Archery is easily droppable, I usually only add the perk to zoom in, since it's the most useful perk out of the lot.

You probably don't need any perks out of conjuration either, since if you are sneaking properly you can one hit most enemies with backstab.

And which parts of speech are you going to use? I find bribe and intimidate far less use than they should be, and while selling stolen goods to any vendor is useful, it's a definitely a secondary skill in my books.

I would shift Illusion into the primary skill group, and speech, archery and conjuration into the second, and possibly drop archery and conjuration entirely.