Is enb really worth it?

[Doom Sayer]

I have been ♥♥♥♥ing with it for a while and am finally losing patience. Sun invisible, sun going through terrain, takes like 40 - 60 fps.... Unless someones got a effective fix i think i am calling it quits. Flora/tree mods, 2k textures etc have half the effect on performance.

I mean I get it enb improves rendering in a way no other current method can... but on skyrim this is seeming like a pain in the ♥♥♥. I at least want my sun to render correctly.

EDIT: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/18611

Figment enb is a good performance ENB. Means I can run veydosebrom + enhanced vanilla trees (bigger preset) with enb yet retain 60 fps where previously was at around 45 - 50 lows no matter the enb preset

[NimrodX]

Someone recommend this preset to me https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/4796 but I wont be able to run enbseries on my system anyway so haven't tried it.

I'd at least try someone's preset first. I've also been told it helps a lot more with oldrim compared to se, so may in fact not be worth it on SE.

[smr1957]

Degeneracy, yes, an ENB will improve the look, but the real question is, are you happy with the way your game looks now? If you are, then don't bother with an ENB if you are having issues with installation and getting it to look right. Yes, I use an ENB in my game, but even without it, SSE looks pretty damn good.

[Doom Sayer]

Originally posted by smr1957:

Degeneracy, yes, an ENB will improve the look, but the real question is, are you happy with the way your game looks now? If you are, then don't bother with an ENB if you are having issues with installation and getting it to look right. Yes, I use an ENB in my game, but even without it, SSE looks pretty damn good.

Idk im just surprised 1660ti and 2700x aint enough. Sun issue i thing was a obsidian weathers thing + enb. Guess I should have saved for high end i9 + 2080ti...

[alexander_dougherty]

Originally posted by smr1957:

Degeneracy, yes, an ENB will improve the look, but the real question is, are you happy with the way your game looks now? If you are, then don't bother with an ENB

Something I used to say a lot, sometimes people focus on gilding the lilly, given how much the graphics have improved since I started, it seems overkill at times.

[Doom Sayer]

Feel i should post now that I am finally happy with my overall result. I may switch ENB, weather mod, add a grass mod and swtich tree mod but I am confident in saying I will have a functional 60 fps constant skyrim se with mods im happy with.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1880011164

At this outskirts of Helgen I was at 45 fps before. Now I am at 70. Main removal was grass fixes + verdant (grass mod).

[eyeC]

I have asked the same question. I selected an ENB based on an internet recommendation ... and we all know those are infallible. Anyway, I turned it on, turned it off, .... and so forth. My final decision was that things looked marginally better with it on. So I've kept it. Are there better or worse ENBs? I have no idea. Mine does not seem to affect my FPS, but I'm fairly beefy for a laptop.

EDIT: should have included bottom line: ENB is certainly not mandatory. It's a pretty subtle improvement and nothing to stress over.

[mikk011]

You can get things looking pretty good with no enb (though I plan to add one as I keep expanding my SSE build). This is just a number of landscape mods + Rustic Weathers, and I haven't started on Dydolod yet either.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1880694821

[ColorsFade]

If you have the horses, it's totally worth it.

I've played the majority of my Skyrim hours on an Alienware laptop, but it could never handle an ENB. Last year I built a new desktop. i7, 32GB Ram, 1080TI graphics card. ENB has been excellent. It just overall looks so much smoother and better.

Now, finding a preset that presents the aesthetic you want - that's a different story.

[Vlad 254]

Simple answer. Yes

[258789553873]

ENBs aren't normally that hard to install. You must have done something wrong while installing. As for how to undo your install so you can re-do it, I don't know. I installed everything right and I have no idea how to remove my enbs!

As for if its worth it, honestly using an ENB makes your game look like it got a complete texture overhaul. Its truly shocking the difference that it can make.

As for changing the apperance of your game, vivid weathers is also a good option. It lets you change brightness (both interior and exterior), saturation, and bloom. Its a lot like having an ENB, except you have a separate ENB for each of your save files. That feature of it alone makes the mod worthwhile.

[Doom Sayer]

Originally posted by IXBlackWolfXI:

ENBs aren't normally that hard to install. You must have done something wrong while installing. As for how to undo your install so you can re-do it, I don't know. I installed everything right and I have no idea how to remove my enbs!

As for if its worth it, honestly using an ENB makes your game look like it got a complete texture overhaul. Its truly shocking the difference that it can make.

As for changing the apperance of your game, vivid weathers is also a good option. It lets you change brightness (both interior and exterior), saturation, and bloom. Its a lot like having an ENB, except you have a separate ENB for each of your save files. That feature of it alone makes the mod worthwhile.

It was incompatibility wish Majestic mountains that has a option to move the sun. (which i forgot about) Which was at one point compatible with enb but is no longer.

Also i am moderately knowledgeable on modding. I have cleaned my base files/mods, converted LE textures to SE, mods from LE to SE...... I have made merge patches. I know how to use MO2 and hate all other mod managers....

Only thing I dont know how to use is dynalod. I only posted here because if someone has a answer it means I dont need to go through 200+ mod packages disabling until whatever problem i has go away. Unfortunately I had to, but ah well its MO2 so isnt that bad. Mostly its just slow game startup because of enb.

[258789553873]

Well, that explains why you were having issues. I've never heard of a mod that doesn't work with enbs myself, just so we know.

And just so you know, you don't actually need to convert texture mods. Both versions of the game use the same file types. Try it, install an oldrim texture mod in SE and it'll work fine. I'm using a texture replacer for Blaze of Eventide, which isn't available for SE, and its been working perfectly fine. This is why texture mods are rarely ported. Sound mods also work fine. I'm running an oldrim sound replacer for werewolves in my SE game for instance, and its working fine even though I did nothing to convert it. Of course, this doesn't work with everything. You need to convert .esp files for instance, and sometimes texture replacers have everything compressed into a .bsa file, which requires an .esp file to work (replacers normally don't have .esp files)! I have heard of people having luck with some mods that do have esp files and meshes and whatnot, but that seems to be rare and I've never attempted to install any of these mods myself. Either way, its a safer idea to at least open and re-save the mod in creation kit before running your game with it installed (as you probably know, that's how you convert .esp files).

[DEAD RaNgEr 888]

Originally posted by Degeneracy:

Originally posted by smr1957:

Degeneracy, yes, an ENB will improve the look, but the real question is, are you happy with the way your game looks now? If you are, then don't bother with an ENB if you are having issues with installation and getting it to look right. Yes, I use an ENB in my game, but even without it, SSE looks pretty damn good.

Idk im just surprised 1660ti and 2700x aint enough. Sun issue i thing was a obsidian weathers thing + enb. Guess I should have saved for high end i9 + 2080ti...

how can you get so little fps with those specs? i have an gtx 1070 and r5 3600 and i got almost stable 60 fps in many places with enb and 180 mods. there is nothing wrong with your specs, unless you have slow ram or little of it

[Doom Sayer]

Originally posted by DEAD RaNgEr 888:

Originally posted by Degeneracy:

Idk im just surprised 1660ti and 2700x aint enough. Sun issue i thing was a obsidian weathers thing + enb. Guess I should have saved for high end i9 + 2080ti...

how can you get so little fps with those specs? i have an gtx 1070 and r5 3600 and i got almost stable 60 fps in many places with enb and 180 mods. there is nothing wrong with your specs, unless you have slow ram or little of it

You think I have a problem? Because something like Skyrim SE isnt really measurable without specifics.

My rust performance matches what it seems it should be based of vid of what is supposed to be same gpu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5VwR_ZwGjA

I get roughly same. (Settings i use decrease fps by like 30 or more in rust. ). Idk i could have some mod or weirdly specific issue although with no enb I get like 100+ fps but with (depending on enb preset and whats enabled 60 as a min.)

Also I have good ram 16g. Ram is running at like 3000 or something.

I am benchmarking skyrim with specifically MOST INTENSIVE places. Which are for me out side helgen, in white run (jks cities) in windhelms docks and solitude's docks.

I mean if you got something to boost performance at no cost throw it at me however I think I did what I could. Engine fixes, USEEP, SKSE, Bethini. About only thing i havent done is clean files and run nif optimizer and lod gen.

[boneys26]

Depends what you're after,

I wanted more colour, darker nights and interiors I've gone with Skyrimse re-engaged ENB performance option with COT using a lot of high res textures and the biggest issue I had was grass, short grass SE (mixed) killed my FPS, until I found Grass FPS booster mod. I was shocked that one little mod could kill fps like that on my rig..

Processor: Intel Core i9-9900K @5GHz
RAM: 16GB G-Skill DDR4 3000MHz
Graphics: Nvidia GeForce (Asus Turbo) RTX2080Ti 11GB vram
Motherboard: Asus ROG MAXIMUS XI CODE Z390
Storage: 500GB M.2 2280 Black NVMe PCIe SSD
2TB SATA 6.0Gb/s 64MB HDD
Monitor: Acer KG281k @3840x2610 60Hz
OS: Windows 10 home