The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Special Edition

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Let´s talk about LORE, Do you think is the Dragonborn a vampire? +spoilers
Do you think the Dragonborn choose the vampire option?
I mean on a canonical way.
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Warm Fuzzies™ Dec 31, 2017 @ 1:27pm 
I mean, all of those quests are secondary, so its likely that the Dragonborn never became a vampire or a werewolf.
Originally posted by Warm Fuzzies:
I mean, all of those quests are secondary, so its likely that the Dragonborn never became a vampire or a werewolf.
Well, lets imagine TES VI is done.
Do you think the Dragonborn didnt do all the secundary missions according to the lore?
HEXEN Jan 1, 2018 @ 9:34am 
This really hurts.
The whole thought. About lore and side quests. Oh, right...
smr1957 Jan 1, 2018 @ 9:42am 
Someone needs to take a cannon to these kinds of threads. The lore is what you make it and is only limited by the limits of your own imagination.
Last edited by smr1957; Jan 1, 2018 @ 9:42am
Magicktech Jan 1, 2018 @ 10:05am 
You mean Todd Howard's lore that he keeps changing? Then yes, the Dragonborn was a vampire, a reptilian shapeshifter, and a werewolf.
MysticMalevolence Jan 1, 2018 @ 10:13am 
Well, the Dawnguard storyline is written in such a way that regardless of side chosen, there's no real lasting effects--Harkon dies either way, and with him dies the Tyranny of the Sun prophecy. Whether the Volkihar die out or the Dawnguard does doesn't really matter, as the Volkihar agree to regress and go back to a quiet, shadowy existence, while the Dawnguard would likely disband after Isran's death, given that the threat of vampires has greatly diminished with the death of Movarth and Harkon.
The same goes for most of the storylines. The only two that have a chance of actually impacting anything are the Dark Brotherhood questline and the College of Winterhold questline.

As you can tell from Daggerfall, Bethesda has a bad track record of making choices in previous games have lasting effects. I believe this is because it is bad form to tell half of your playerbase that their choice was wrong. Thus, most questlines with a choice (sans the Dark Brotherhood) are written with some catch that the result was the same either way--A lot of things in Skyrim directly tell us the result will be about the same regardless of who wins the Civil War, and as we can see, whoever wins in Dawnguard won't really be important enough on a global scale to impact future TES games.

The obvious exception here being that you can either kill the Dark Brotherhood forever, or kill Emperor Titus Mede II. Obviously, this is a pretty big thing--unless someone wants to argue that Cicero or Babette restore the brotherhood and kill the Emperor anyway.

Otherwise, we can assume all quests and storylines are completed by the Dragonborn. Or not. Unless something like Sheogorath happens it won't be that important beyond the main quests.
Originally posted by Dylan the Cartographer:
Well, the Dawnguard storyline is written in such a way that regardless of side chosen, there's no real lasting effects--Harkon dies either way, and with him dies the Tyranny of the Sun prophecy. Whether the Volkihar die out or the Dawnguard does doesn't really matter, as the Volkihar agree to regress and go back to a quiet, shadowy existence, while the Dawnguard would likely disband after Isran's death, given that the threat of vampires has greatly diminished with the death of Movarth and Harkon.
The same goes for most of the storylines. The only two that have a chance of actually impacting anything are the Dark Brotherhood questline and the College of Winterhold questline.

As you can tell from Daggerfall, Bethesda has a bad track record of making choices in previous games have lasting effects. I believe this is because it is bad form to tell half of your playerbase that their choice was wrong. Thus, most questlines with a choice (sans the Dark Brotherhood) are written with some catch that the result was the same either way--A lot of things in Skyrim directly tell us the result will be about the same regardless of who wins the Civil War, and as we can see, whoever wins in Dawnguard won't really be important enough on a global scale to impact future TES games.

The obvious exception here being that you can either kill the Dark Brotherhood forever, or kill Emperor Titus Mede II. Obviously, this is a pretty big thing--unless someone wants to argue that Cicero or Babette restore the brotherhood and kill the Emperor anyway.

Otherwise, we can assume all quests and storylines are completed by the Dragonborn. Or not. Unless something like Sheogorath happens it won't be that important beyond the main quests.
Good explanation.
So is just our imagination who decides who is the DragonBorn and what decissions he made.
Aleksi134 Jan 1, 2018 @ 10:23am 
Dawnguard is pretty much canon and all that dragonborn did there, how bethesda liked to portray it is that he joined volkihar instead of dawnguard. You can for the most part make your own lore as nothing really matters in the end im sure bethesda will just put the LDB to the side and say "oh he went on an expedition to akavir".
Sinsling Jan 1, 2018 @ 10:25am 
Whatever you think the lore is, es6 is going to have book lore that crushes your hopes
Magicktech Jan 1, 2018 @ 11:01am 
ES6 lore I know has magick chests that you can't pick the lock. However for a small price of $1.99 you can open one chest of your choosing. This will be tied into the new lore.
Shahadem Jan 1, 2018 @ 11:17am 
Since every Dragonborn is different based on the player, there is no overall canonical Dragonborn. Anyone who says there is is a fool.

However the most fitting Dragonborn canon is one who didn't become a vampire because she was already a much more powerful Succubus. She just walked in, punched Harkon in the face, married Serana and then lived happily ever after.
Last edited by Shahadem; Jan 1, 2018 @ 11:19am
Warm Fuzzies™ Jan 1, 2018 @ 1:46pm 
Originally posted by Shahadem:
Since every Dragonborn is different based on the player, there is no overall canonical Dragonborn. Anyone who says there is is a fool.

That is actually kind of wrong.

Technically speaking, lore-wise, Miraak no matter what the player does in the game, is the "first" Dragonborn.
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Date Posted: Dec 31, 2017 @ 11:29am
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