GameBreaking Bug on Alduin's Wall (Spoilers)

[Raz Raifman]

Esbern is stuck looking at a wall, in combat mode. no enemies can be seen in the compass.
nothing much i can do, tried a lot. delphine is stuck too. they are both in combat, stuck on a wall in teh pathway into the main hall and i cant talk to them.. help.

[Ilja]

From UESPWiki:

Esbern and Delphine may get stuck in combat mode if you do not kill all of the Forsworn at Karthspire Camp.

• If you wait for a long time (10+ hours), this may reset their stance and they will continue up the stairs, however it does not appear to work every time.
  
• Instead of waiting, leaving the cave with Sky Haven Temple and then fast traveling back to Sky Haven Temple also should continue the quest.
  
• Killing all of the Forsworn before entering Sky Haven Temple should avoid this entirely.

[SeeEmilyPlay]

Did you kill all the enemies in Karthspire? Maybe try going upstairs and outide to see if there's a Dragon?

From the wiki:
Esbern and Delphine may get stuck in combat mode.
If you do not kill all of the Forsworn at Karthspire Camp, when you enter Sky Haven Temple, Esbern and Delphine may get "stuck" in combat mode, acting as if they are under attack but never moving or returning to normal mode. As they will not advance up the stairs to examine the wall, this will prevent the quest from completing. If you wait for ten hours, this will reset their stance and they will continue up the stairs. Killing all of the Forsworn before entering Sky Haven Temple should avoid this entirely.


EDIT: haha Ilja beat me to it

[Raz Raifman]

Thanks for the quick answer, but I already fixed it.. just waited 24 hours. Thanks anyways!

[rzn6jw]

That was a bug in the first game, too.

[Dudeman]

I found the Bug. Delphine stands at the first fire basin, as Esbern goes up to the fire basin near the "wall" The script is bugged in that neither will equip a torch to light the basin. Force them both to equip a torch by using the counsel cammand [ ~ ]. assuming they are both there, Delphine at the entrance, Esbern at the wall, click on them in counsel mode and type........... {<equip item> <0001D4EC> <1> <left> ] ....as you enter skyheaven temple with no brackets.

Try to do it from a clean save outside the temple. I don't know if it will work days later; if you left them standing there how ever long...? Comment if it does work. Let us know.

After having done this, Delphine stood there for 30 seconds, then started up the stairs. She didn't light the first couple of basins, but she went to the basin opposite Esbern to light that one as Esbern light the one he's near. (remember to do the same to Esbern) Afterwhich the quest line continued as normal.

Note: Torch mods may be a factor that breaks the NPCs from equipping torches. I uninstalled "Torches Cast Shadows", "Droppable Torches", and "Wearable Lanterns" before hand.

Waiting may be an alturnate solution as time of day will make NPCs equip torches at night. For me, they'd equip a torch outside Skyheaven, but wouldn't inside unless I forced them too.

I hope this helps!

Bethesda - I'll take cash or check. Shoot me up if you need someone to be your bug finder. i'm gifted with running into bugs! :)

[Roll Fizzlebeef]

I ran into a different type of bug. After Esbern finished talking and I talked with Delphine, the next quest never started. I went to Arngeir anyway to learn the shout, just in case, and there's no new dialogue.

No idea what went wrong, as this has never happened before.

[Gone A Viking]

I have had this same problem in two consecutive play-throughs. The second time, after reading all these suggestions, I traveled back to my home near White Run, slept for 48 hours, and returned. Delphine was standing next to Esbern. She still did not have her torch. However, the quest continued as Esbern walked to the center of the wall when I spoke to him. Hope this helps someone. Nothing else I tried worked.

[.dinaht]

Originally posted by Dudeman:

I found the Bug. Delphine stands at the first fire basin, as Esbern goes up to the fire basin near the "wall" The script is bugged in that neither will equip a torch to light the basin. Force them both to equip a torch by using the counsel cammand [ ~ ]. assuming they are both there, Delphine at the entrance, Esbern at the wall, click on them in counsel mode and type........... {<equip item> <0001D4EC> <1> <left> ] ....as you enter skyheaven temple with no brackets.

Try to do it from a clean save outside the temple. I don't know if it will work days later; if you left them standing there how ever long...? Comment if it does work. Let us know.

After having done this, Delphine stood there for 30 seconds, then started up the stairs. She didn't light the first couple of basins, but she went to the basin opposite Esbern to light that one as Esbern light the one he's near. (remember to do the same to Esbern) Afterwhich the quest line continued as normal.

Note: Torch mods may be a factor that breaks the NPCs from equipping torches. I uninstalled "Torches Cast Shadows", "Droppable Torches", and "Wearable Lanterns" before hand.

Waiting may be an alturnate solution as time of day will make NPCs equip torches at night. For me, they'd equip a torch outside Skyheaven, but wouldn't inside unless I forced them too.

I hope this helps!

Bethesda - I'll take cash or check. Shoot me up if you need someone to be your bug finder. i'm gifted with running into bugs! :)

Omg man, thank you so much!

[Rover129]

Originally posted by Dudeman:

I found the Bug. Delphine stands at the first fire basin, as Esbern goes up to the fire basin near the "wall" The script is bugged in that neither will equip a torch to light the basin. Force them both to equip a torch by using the counsel cammand [ ~ ]. assuming they are both there, Delphine at the entrance, Esbern at the wall, click on them in counsel mode and type........... {<equip item> <0001D4EC> <1> <left> ] ....as you enter skyheaven temple with no brackets.

Try to do it from a clean save outside the temple. I don't know if it will work days later; if you left them standing there how ever long...? Comment if it does work. Let us know.

After having done this, Delphine stood there for 30 seconds, then started up the stairs. She didn't light the first couple of basins, but she went to the basin opposite Esbern to light that one as Esbern light the one he's near. (remember to do the same to Esbern) Afterwhich the quest line continued as normal.

Note: Torch mods may be a factor that breaks the NPCs from equipping torches. I uninstalled "Torches Cast Shadows", "Droppable Torches", and "Wearable Lanterns" before hand.

Waiting may be an alturnate solution as time of day will make NPCs equip torches at night. For me, they'd equip a torch outside Skyheaven, but wouldn't inside unless I forced them too.

I hope this helps!

Bethesda - I'll take cash or check. Shoot me up if you need someone to be your bug finder. i'm gifted with running into bugs! :)

The command doesn't seem to work for me. It tells me that 1- the command "equip" can't be found or 2- it sais "missing parameter objectID.
at this point, i'm at a loss for what to do. i have seen messages that suggest uninstalling the unofficial skyrim SE patch, sleeping and returning later, Fus-Ro-Da'ing Esbern and Delphine to the wall, nothing seems to work. using the command was the last thing i tried. am i typing something wrong? do I have too many mods installed?

[mikaeliby]

Tried hitting them with something, or a fist? Gets vital NPC:s out of locked positions regularly, I find.

[Confused]

Originally posted by Rover129:

Originally posted by Dudeman:

I found the Bug. Delphine stands at the first fire basin, as Esbern goes up to the fire basin near the "wall" The script is bugged in that neither will equip a torch to light the basin. Force them both to equip a torch by using the counsel cammand [ ~ ]. assuming they are both there, Delphine at the entrance, Esbern at the wall, click on them in counsel mode and type........... {<equip item> <0001D4EC> <1> <left> ] ....as you enter skyheaven temple with no brackets.

Try to do it from a clean save outside the temple. I don't know if it will work days later; if you left them standing there how ever long...? Comment if it does work. Let us know.

After having done this, Delphine stood there for 30 seconds, then started up the stairs. She didn't light the first couple of basins, but she went to the basin opposite Esbern to light that one as Esbern light the one he's near. (remember to do the same to Esbern) Afterwhich the quest line continued as normal.

Note: Torch mods may be a factor that breaks the NPCs from equipping torches. I uninstalled "Torches Cast Shadows", "Droppable Torches", and "Wearable Lanterns" before hand.

Waiting may be an alturnate solution as time of day will make NPCs equip torches at night. For me, they'd equip a torch outside Skyheaven, but wouldn't inside unless I forced them too.

I hope this helps!

Bethesda - I'll take cash or check. Shoot me up if you need someone to be your bug finder. i'm gifted with running into bugs! :)

The command doesn't seem to work for me. It tells me that 1- the command "equip" can't be found or 2- it sais "missing parameter objectID.
at this point, i'm at a loss for what to do. i have seen messages that suggest uninstalling the unofficial skyrim SE patch, sleeping and returning later, Fus-Ro-Da'ing Esbern and Delphine to the wall, nothing seems to work. using the command was the last thing i tried. am i typing something wrong? do I have too many mods installed?

For anyone having trouble with this, this is the process I used that fixed everything:

Esburn seemed to work, he equipped a torch and lit the basin to the left of the wall.
Delphine stood at the entrance with no torch.

Open the console.
Click on Delphine, the ID 00013485 should appear at the top of the console.
Type "equipitem 0001D4EC 1".
This equipped a torch in Delphine's left hand and the quest proceeded as normal.

I assume if Esburn did not have a torch you could use the same process on him.
If you attempted to teleport either character or move them with shouts, I cannot guarantee this will work.
I also had a bug where Esburn would stand at the top of the staircase in the center of the room with Delphine off to the side. This did not happen on my final load where I finally solved the problem. If equipping a torch on both characters does not solve this specific issue I would recommend loading a save pre-Sky Haven Temple and trying to get esburn to at least walk up to the wall.

[⭕⃤grimey]

Originally posted by Confused:

Originally posted by Rover129:

The command doesn't seem to work for me. It tells me that 1- the command "equip" can't be found or 2- it sais "missing parameter objectID.
at this point, i'm at a loss for what to do. i have seen messages that suggest uninstalling the unofficial skyrim SE patch, sleeping and returning later, Fus-Ro-Da'ing Esbern and Delphine to the wall, nothing seems to work. using the command was the last thing i tried. am i typing something wrong? do I have too many mods installed?

For anyone having trouble with this, this is the process I used that fixed everything:

Esburn seemed to work, he equipped a torch and lit the basin to the left of the wall.
Delphine stood at the entrance with no torch.

Open the console.
Click on Delphine, the ID 00013485 should appear at the top of the console.
Type "equipitem 0001D4EC 1".
This equipped a torch in Delphine's left hand and the quest proceeded as normal.

I assume if Esburn did not have a torch you could use the same process on him.
If you attempted to teleport either character or move them with shouts, I cannot guarantee this will work.
I also had a bug where Esburn would stand at the top of the staircase in the center of the room with Delphine off to the side. This did not happen on my final load where I finally solved the problem. If equipping a torch on both characters does not solve this specific issue I would recommend loading a save pre-Sky Haven Temple and trying to get esburn to at least walk up to the wall.

thanks for this helped me! i was getting super frustrated lol it's amazing how broken this game can be...

[Sirat]

Originally posted by grimeythot:

Originally posted by Confused:

For anyone having trouble with this, this is the process I used that fixed everything:

Esburn seemed to work, he equipped a torch and lit the basin to the left of the wall.
Delphine stood at the entrance with no torch.

Open the console.
Click on Delphine, the ID 00013485 should appear at the top of the console.
Type "equipitem 0001D4EC 1".
This equipped a torch in Delphine's left hand and the quest proceeded as normal.

I assume if Esburn did not have a torch you could use the same process on him.
If you attempted to teleport either character or move them with shouts, I cannot guarantee this will work.
I also had a bug where Esburn would stand at the top of the staircase in the center of the room with Delphine off to the side. This did not happen on my final load where I finally solved the problem. If equipping a torch on both characters does not solve this specific issue I would recommend loading a save pre-Sky Haven Temple and trying to get esburn to at least walk up to the wall.

thanks for this helped me! i was getting super frustrated lol it's amazing how broken this game can be...

"equipitem 0001D4EC 1" Worked for me also, thank you very much. 👼👍

[Sir Frog]

Putting the torch in delphine's hand worked for me! Thank you!

[Panther bait]

Originally posted by Dudeman:

I found the Bug. Delphine stands at the first fire basin, as Esbern goes up to the fire basin near the "wall" The script is bugged in that neither will equip a torch to light the basin. Force them both to equip a torch by using the counsel cammand [ ~ ]. assuming they are both there, Delphine at the entrance, Esbern at the wall, click on them in counsel mode and type........... {<equip item> <0001D4EC> <1> <left> ] ....as you enter skyheaven temple with no brackets.

Try to do it from a clean save outside the temple. I don't know if it will work days later; if you left them standing there how ever long...? Comment if it does work. Let us know.

After having done this, Delphine stood there for 30 seconds, then started up the stairs. She didn't light the first couple of basins, but she went to the basin opposite Esbern to light that one as Esbern light the one he's near. (remember to do the same to Esbern) Afterwhich the quest line continued as normal.

Note: Torch mods may be a factor that breaks the NPCs from equipping torches. I uninstalled "Torches Cast Shadows", "Droppable Torches", and "Wearable Lanterns" before hand.

Waiting may be an alturnate solution as time of day will make NPCs equip torches at night. For me, they'd equip a torch outside Skyheaven, but wouldn't inside unless I forced them too.

I hope this helps!

Bethesda - I'll take cash or check. Shoot me up if you need someone to be your bug finder. i'm gifted with running into bugs! :)

This worked for me. They both got stuck not in combat mode. Ebern at the wall and delphine down the stairs. I forced her to equip a torch and boom it continued.