Confusd about Disenchanting items and magnitude of effect...

[fishhooks]

wiki indicates that disenchanting an item results in my having the ability to enchant that effect, regardless of magnitude of item disenchanted. I just want to confirm that.

I disenchanted some boots with a 12% Resist Shock effect. Now I have a shield with a 30% Resist Shock efffect, but I can't disenchant it (obviously, since I have the effect already).

BUT my concern is that I can't seem to enchant any item beyond the 12% magnitude...it's as if I got that specific level of Resist Shock, and that's all I'm able to use.

But maybe it's just a reflection of my Enchant skill being fairly low still (<30)...will the effect increase in magnitude as I improve my skill and use higher-grade soul gems? I hope so, 'cuz I've just been disenchanting the lowest level items (i.e. cheapest) with the effect I'm wanting to utilize, but if that somehow sets a limit on the magnitude available to me, I need to start using the higher level items (i.e. expensive) for all future effects I desire.

Thanks...again, I read the wiki page, and it seems to indicate that I'm OK, but I just want to confirm that with you guys before I do anymore disenchanting of low-level items, there-by limiting my max Enchantment effects.

[SpeedFreak1972]

You learn the effect the magnitude is controlled by perks and level of enchanting and soul gem used to enchant it.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

Always use the cheapest item to disenchant and sell or use the more expensive ones.

All you are doing by disenchanting items is learning the effect to use for enchanting other items.

As mentioned above, the strength of the enchantment is not determined by what item you disenchant, it is determined by your Enchanting skill, perk bonuses, potions bonuses, and which soul gem you use.

[fishhooks]

Cool....thanks for your prompt responses. I've been hoarding all enchanted items, as well as filling a ton of soul gems, in anticipation of doing a massive Enchant Skill boost all at once.

So...since I'm simply going to Enchant a number of items for the sole purpose of boosting the skill (and selling them), any good tips on how best to go about it? I know that Enchanting better quality items with better gems has a greater impact on raising the skill, but since I'm only at 24 right now, I'll potion-up for max benefit. But should I waste common gems on steel weapons and armor, or just petty gems on iron daggers....or apparel maybe.

Any quick tips on what you find works well for a balance between max skill boost AND max value-added to items...thanks.

[Cattywumpus]

I usually just put a Banish enchantment of anything I find unenchanted or make and then toss them n a box somewhere until I need money.

Even iron daggers with a petty gem level banish sell for more than most vendors have.

[fishhooks]

Good tip...thanks. I don't have any items with the Banish enchantment yet, but I'll keep it in mind when I do.

[alexander_dougherty]

Originally posted by Omgwtfbbqkitten:

Always use the cheapest item to disenchant and sell or use the more expensive ones.

All you are doing by disenchanting items is learning the effect to use for enchanting other items.

Not quite, the stronger the enchantment, the more experience you get for disenchanting it (meaning your enchanting skill goes up more).

But as a general rule disenchanting the cheap items and selling the more expensive ones is a good idea.

[sebastian]

Remember to switch to the "Mage Stone" and get the "Well Rested" bonus, before you start your Enchantment grinding. Also remember that, while it doesn't influence the experience you gain, the enchantment you put on an item has an effect on the resulting item's sale value. Grinding out rings with "Fortify Sneak" or "Fortify Carry Weight" gets you a lot more gold back than doing the same with "Fortify Health".

[Rafael Freeman]

Once you have boosted Enchanting to level where you'll start using it to create useful stuff, you should really use Grand Soul Gems.

So I would use all Soul Gems that are not Grand to make junk that you can sell.

Making jewelry and enchanting it, is always a good strategy. Jewelry is light, so you can carry it around to trade against Grand Soul Gems since those are sold by wizards and general merchants who buy jewelry.

Side note: the merchant perk in speech is always useful.

[Stardustfire]

Try to make the Quest where u get the "Black Star" . This will solve u need for Grand Soulstones.

[ZigZach]

Originally posted by fishhooks:

But maybe it's just a reflection of my Enchant skill being fairly low still (<30)...will the effect increase in magnitude as I improve my skill and use higher-grade soul gems?

You answered your own question :)

[fishhooks]

Thanks guys...this is all really helpful. I have a ton of jewelry and raw jewels stashed away as well, and a lot of gold and silver ore/ingots (plus Transmutation spell).

SO I think I can kill two (or three) birds with one stone, so to speak. I'll get the Warrior Stone and spend some time smithing good jewelry (with a potion, of course), then swap for the Mage Stone (and more potions), and do some serious Enchanting, THEN swap once more for Thief Stone and go sell it all. Should get boosts to all three skills that way (Smithing, Enchantment, and Speechcraft).

Good to know a few of the 'better' enchantments as well (for resale purposes, that is).

Thanks

[Rafael Freeman]

Originally posted by fishhooks:

Thanks guys...this is all really helpful. I have a ton of jewelry and raw jewels stashed away as well, and a lot of gold and silver ore/ingots (plus Transmutation spell).

SO I think I can kill two (or three) birds with one stone, so to speak. I'll get the Warrior Stone and spend some time smithing good jewelry (with a potion, of course), then swap for the Mage Stone (and more potions), and do some serious Enchanting, THEN swap once more for Thief Stone and go sell it all. Should get boosts to all three skills that way (Smithing, Enchantment, and Speechcraft).

Good to know a few of the 'better' enchantments as well (for resale purposes, that is).

Thanks

A smithing potion won't do anything when you make something, they only work when you improve an item.

Enchanting potions are useful, but only after you have increased Alchemy and have invested in some perks. I would only use enchanting potions for items you will actually use.

And't don't forget to enchant items to improve Alchemy. Really useful early on in the game.

[fishhooks]

Originally posted by rafaelherschel:

A smithing potion won't do anything when you make something, they only work when you improve an item.

Enchanting potions are useful, but only after you have increased Alchemy and have invested in some perks. I would only use enchanting potions for items you will actually use.

And't don't forget to enchant items to improve Alchemy. Really useful early on in the game.

Thanks for that...yea, I heard that Enchanting Alchemy apparel is a good idea...I just haven't found any alchemy items yet. As far as Enchanting potions, I figure "why not use them?" The ingrediants are plentiful, so every bit helps, right?

[Rafael Freeman]

Originally posted by fishhooks:

Originally posted by rafaelherschel:

A smithing potion won't do anything when you make something, they only work when you improve an item.

Enchanting potions are useful, but only after you have increased Alchemy and have invested in some perks. I would only use enchanting potions for items you will actually use.

And't don't forget to enchant items to improve Alchemy. Really useful early on in the game.

Thanks for that...yea, I heard that Enchanting Alchemy apparel is a good idea...I just haven't found any alchemy items yet. As far as Enchanting potions, I figure "why not use them?" The ingrediants are plentiful, so every bit helps, right?

It doesn't hurt to use the potions, it's just that I don't bother because they only add a little bit of value unless they are at 20 percent or higher (32 percent is the cap with 'normal' play).

Try different shops for more enchanted items and keep visiting them, shops will restock after 24 in game hours. Solitude is a good place to buy stuff.

[fishhooks]

Thanks